Madden NFL 18 MUT Squads Bring Back Online Team Play

[Thunderhorse]

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I'm hot they had to tie this in with MUT.

2K's myplayer is worth the $ because that player is yours and is truly unique.

OTP was going to make me buy the game this year day 1. I won't be doin that now.

[T4VERTS]

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I can't believe (well let's be honest I can) that Madden is screwing people over again. All we wanted was OTP back, the regular OTP where one would control each of the three major classifications on both sides of the ball. 3v3 how God intended it. Locks to QB, RB, WR, DL, LB, DB all of this made Madden OTP great. Now they are monetizing it for no apparent reason. I am beyond upset at this. I was excited to buy madden for the first time in since Madden 25 on the xbox one because all I did was play in the competitive team play leagues. Now that winning or losing will be solely based on how much money you can dump into the game and not based on actual skill, I'm throwing my $60 toward something else. I'll probably buy 2k. 2K football needs to hurry and make a return. Madden has been putting out the same trash game year after year and people only buy it because it's the only way to play the biggest sport in the U.S. in video game form. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

Did you really say they are monetizing it for no apparent reason? They are monetizing it because they are a for profit company. In order to put the work in to develop it and put it out there and pay to cover the servers they monetize it. Everyone has bosses, and EA isn't in the business of charity, they are in the business of making money.

[seasprite]

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Did you really say they are monetizing it for no apparent reason? They are monetizing it because they are a for profit company. In order to put the work in to develop it and put it out there and pay to cover the servers they monetize it. Everyone has bosses, and EA isn't in the business of charity, they are in the business of making money.

Maybe one day UNICEF will get into the football video game business.................

[OhMrHanky]

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Did you really say they are monetizing it for no apparent reason? They are monetizing it because they are a for profit company. In order to put the work in to develop it and put it out there and pay to cover the servers they monetize it. Everyone has bosses, and EA isn't in the business of charity, they are in the business of making money.

Yeah, but this type of game mode update (allowing 3 v 3) is the type of game addition that should be covered under the $60 price tag for the game, itself. And, it's the type of gameplay option that should be available in all online game modes, CFM, play now, MUT, etc. Technically, u do not have to spend money in MUT, however, it helps. Do we know for sure this is ONLY in MUT? If so, the sheer appearance of adding a new multiplayer mode/format that is ONLY available in the game mode that can take extra money from u is highly suspect and shady at best. Lol.


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[Pokes404]

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Pretty disappointed that team play is tied to MUT. I'm really not a fan of those kinds of modes. I was looking forward to playing with the real NFL teams, and I enjoyed the player-locking aspect of the mode in previous versions. I was set to purchase Madden for the first time since 2005. Now I'm not real sure.

[T4VERTS]

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Yeah, but this type of game mode update (allowing 3 v 3) is the type of game addition that should be covered under the $60 price tag for the game, itself. And, it's the type of gameplay option that should be available in all online game modes, CFM, play now, MUT, etc. Technically, u do not have to spend money in MUT, however, it helps. Do we know for sure this is ONLY in MUT? If so, the sheer appearance of adding a new multiplayer mode/format that is ONLY available in the game mode that can take extra money from u is highly suspect and shady at best. Lol.

Why should it be covered?

[OhMrHanky]

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Why should it be covered?

Why shouldn't it? Lol. I mean, I guess we can disagree on this. We could list all the things we think should or shouldn't be extra. I buy season passes for a lot of other games because they come additional content later. But, in this specific case, I have to say, this would normally be just another online mode. U already have 1v1 online. Why would u be expected more to simply select 3v3? If they added something like an NFL blitz side game mode that was completely different, I could see that being more money and a legit choice to make for the consumer. Do I want this extra game? Will I play it enough to make it worthwhile? But, simply choosing the number of players to play a game? No, that shouldn't cost more than the price of admission, imo. As a direct comparison of video games, does it cost more in NBA games? Honestly, I don't know. How about shooters? I play destiny. I don't think I had to pay extra to get on a 6 man team. So, yeah, I do feel in this specific instance, one shouldn't have to pay more for it. Now, again, u don't have to pay for MUT, but I think many people do.


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[jfsolo]

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I don't know for sure of course, but I'm fairly certain that the suits who green light new modes said to the developers if you want OTP back in it has to be in our most heavily monetized mode, point blank. In MUT or not in at all, those were going to be the only two choices if one looks at it honestly.

[SyncereBlackout]

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I don't know for sure of course, but I'm fairly certain that the suits who green light new modes said to the developers if you want OTP back in it has to be in our most heavily monetized mode, point blank. In MUT or not in at all, those were going to be the only two choices if one looks at it honestly.

Can't blame them. Few of us would go $ for $ with MUT to win the hearts of the suits and pay extra for simulation.

[DeuceDouglas]

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I don't know for sure of course, but I'm fairly certain that the suits who green light new modes said to the developers if you want OTP back in it has to be in our most heavily monetized mode, point blank. In MUT or not in at all, those were going to be the only two choices if one looks at it honestly.

Not only that but if their telemetry is accurate, hardly anyone was even using it when it was OTP. Lumping it into MUT at least gives it a fighters chance at it succeeding. They tried creating a unique, non-monetized mode with Draft Champions and I'd say that flopped pretty hard. Just judging off the Xbox Achievements data, virtually no one plays it as I think it was something like only 10% of players even complete 5 drafts. The fact that it's tied into MUT shouldn't surprise anyone and if it's only tied to MUT then, yeah, that kind of sucks for those people but again, no one was using the mode before so it doesn't make sense for them to invest in it and maintain it when there's no guaranteeing that this time around will be any different.

[Thunderhorse]

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Not only that but if their telemetry is accurate, hardly anyone was even using it when it was OTP. Lumping it into MUT at least gives it a fighters chance at it succeeding. They tried creating a unique, non-monetized mode with Draft Champions and I'd say that flopped pretty hard. Just judging off the Xbox Achievements data, virtually no one plays it as I think it was something like only 10% of players even complete 5 drafts. The fact that it's tied into MUT shouldn't surprise anyone and if it's only tied to MUT then, yeah, that kind of sucks for those people but again, no one was using the mode before so it doesn't make sense for them to invest in it and maintain it when there's no guaranteeing that this time around will be any different.

I find it disappointing they did not follow 2K's route in this aspect of the title.

2K's MyPlayer requires immense amounts of time but you can take shortcuts by paying cash. For example to get your superstar to an 88 ovr alone (no grinding necessary) it costs something like $60.

That's just for your rating. Accessories, gameplay animations, and extras all cost VC/$ as well. For those of us who work and have expendable income but lack the necessary free time to "grind", it's easier to just pony up the cash so you can enjoy the game when you want to play it.

If this is solely about money, (Which is unfortunate given the nature of teamwork, within the context of football, is it's most powerful characteristic.) I think they went the wrong way with this. However I can understand how building an entire new aspect of Madden is not as economically enticing as lumping it in with MUT, especially when I consider the nature of the company behind the game.

Madden is the only title I can count on to consistently let me down, even when they show potential. No matter how many baby steps Madden takes, 2K's basketball game continues to steal my attention away from the only sport I truly love, and it disgusts me.

[SolidSquid]

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Not only that but if their telemetry is accurate, hardly anyone was even using it when it was OTP. Lumping it into MUT at least gives it a fighters chance at it succeeding. They tried creating a unique, non-monetized mode with Draft Champions and I'd say that flopped pretty hard. Just judging off the Xbox Achievements data, virtually no one plays it as I think it was something like only 10% of players even complete 5 drafts. The fact that it's tied into MUT shouldn't surprise anyone and if it's only tied to MUT then, yeah, that kind of sucks for those people but again, no one was using the mode before so it doesn't make sense for them to invest in it and maintain it when there's no guaranteeing that this time around will be any different.

But they already built it for MUT, they've already invested the time in it

[DeuceDouglas]

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But they already built it for MUT, they've already invested the time in it

I was more referring to why it might not be implemented initially into regular online with default teams like its predecessor. Building it into MUT gives it the highest chance of being a successful method of playing because MUT is the most popular mode. If they had just brought back OTP in its older form it's unlikely that the outcome would be much different where less than 10% of the user base is even using it and it becomes wasted development time. At least this way it's a new and interesting way to play MUT and it also gives them a chance to draw in a new audience into the MUT realm. So it's not really all about money, but don't get me wrong it definitely doesn't hurt them one bit that the potential for new MUT users (more money) goes up with this move.

So people can be upset with its ties to MUT but there's no denying that it made the most sense for them not only from a financial standpoint but also from a practicality standpoint.

[Enigmatic52]

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I'm going to respond, even though I feel it doesn't matter. I just want to put it out in the atmosphere..

MUT news means nothing to me. I haven't played the mode, outside of an initial look when it first was introduced, lasted all of 2 mins.

I actually hate the mode.
I get Madden because:
It's the only football game on the market.
To play with my favorite NFL team and the players on that team.

Not to put Barry Sanders on the Titans or Ronnie Lott on the Jaguars.
I hate that they keep putting money and effort into this mode. I know it's what the competitive and tournament crowd plays for money and what not, but it's not for me.

I'm hoping they don't skimp on other areas for MUT.

MUT for me is useless.

[Thunderhorse]

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I'm going to respond, even though I feel it doesn't matter. I just want to put it out in the atmosphere..

MUT news means nothing to me. I haven't played the mode, outside of an initial look when it first was introduced, lasted all of 2 mins.

I actually hate the mode.
I get Madden because:
It's the only football game on the market.
To play with my favorite NFL team and the players on that team.

Not to put Barry Sanders on the Titans or Ronnie Lott on the Jaguars.
I hate that they keep putting money and effort into this mode. I know it's what the competitive and tournament crowd plays for money and what not, but it's not for me.

I'm hoping they don't skimp on other areas for MUT.

MUT for me is useless.

As others have previously put out, MUT is one of those gamemodes that is really about nostalgia.

Madden has yet to effectively illustrate differences between player types and this is most evident when playing MUT where "legends" with distinct skill types are nearly impossible to differentiate when you watch them in action.

So outside of pulling a card for some player I grew up watching and thinking about those awesome memories, the ROI on MUT is still a painfully casual experience that is dependent on the amount of $ or time the user wants to invest into the product, neither of which (imo) are really worth it.

If I'm going to grind in any game, it will be 2K because it's actually worth it. I'm not about to deal with Madden's continuing legacy of issues for some absurd amount of time just so my team is competitive with any friends I play with online.

Incredibly disappointing and unfortunate that this feature was brought back in this form. I was really hoping to pick the title up early this year but it's just not worth the headache. The gameplay is not rewarding enough. Once again I will have to wait for a price drop.