Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

[TheWood56]

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I wonder if they are going to be different sizes depending on the Qb? Better Qb's will have bigger retiles, and those not as good will have smaller.

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I'd imagine it would be the opposite. The smaller the reticle, the more precise the placement as you know exactly where the balls going to go. However the bigger the reticle, you don't know where in that radius the ball will go, you just know it'll be somewhere in that vicinity. That's like real life, to an extent. Good QB's have good ball placement, whereas poor QB's can often get close to the mark, but consistently underthrow, overthrow, too far inside, too far outside, etc. They just don't have that precision placement, which a bigger reticle in game would convey.

[ggsimmonds]

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My guess on the reticle -- it only shows up when you press the button for the corresponding receiver. And it defaults to a..er..default location. However you may adjust and fine tune the placement during your QBs throwing motion.

Count me as very surprised if it is something like a reticle that appears at the snap and the user must move it across the entire field when passing. That would however meet Rex's difficult to learn statement.

[SolidSquid]

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And hopefully we can finally chuck the tightend.

As someone who been a LB his whole life the fact that you can't touch a tight end in this game drives me insane. You can't chuck or shove them off the line it's always always always a free release

[PVarck31]

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As someone who been a LB his whole life the fact that you can't touch a tight end in this game drives me insane. You can't chuck or shove them off the line it's always always always a free release

I've been asking for years for a way to jam the TE. They are always open because there is no code for them to be thrown off their route.

Hopefully the new WR/DB play will include the TE.

[OhMrHanky]

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My guess on the reticle -- it only shows up when you press the button for the corresponding receiver. And it defaults to a..er..default location. However you may adjust and fine tune the placement during your QBs throwing motion.

Count me as very surprised if it is something like a reticle that appears at the snap and the user must move it across the entire field when passing. That would however meet Rex's difficult to learn statement.

Yeah, I think this is what I'm picturing as well. I think it shows up when u press the WR button, as well, and then u have to quickly manipulate where u want it by the time the ball is released from QB. I'm just terribly curious how quickly it moves for u. How pressure sensitive is it to the pressure of the stick? Things like that.

And, yeah, if it's a reticle that starts at the beginning of the play, forget about it. That sounds awful! [emoji33]


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[therealsmallville]

Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

Just the opposite for me. If the reticule is quick & snappy, I would rather it appeared somewhere (maybe over the center?) once the ball was snapped & I could freely move it from there. That way if I get in trouble, I can chuck it wherever I want, even if it's into the dirt. Accurate penalties would be needed for it to work though, like intentional grounding and the like.

And if you don't have as much time as you'd like to throw it, then you'd better upgrade your line. I like the sound of this feature. Real life QB's get 3 seconds on average or so, right? We get to play on God-Cam, so if you're good you'll learn to get the ball out in 3 too!


Edit: to add to that, I like the idea someone had of left & right trigger for left or right handed QB's. But we still need scrambling ability, so my guess would be right trigger for throwing & hold down left trigger to scramble (or vice versa).


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[bad_philanthropy]

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Good pointon QB scrambling. I forgot about it. I guess the shoulder buttons would be for passing then.

It would be interesting where the reticle's point of origin is at the snap. I'm guessing we'll be able to default to the area of the first read in the progression, but we should also be able to have it start nearly anywhere if we choose.

[ODogg]

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Yeah, I think this is what I'm picturing as well. I think it shows up when u press the WR button, as well, and then u have to quickly manipulate where u want it by the time the ball is released from QB. I'm just terribly curious how quickly it moves for u. How pressure sensitive is it to the pressure of the stick? Things like that.

And, yeah, if it's a reticle that starts at the beginning of the play, forget about it. That sounds awful! [emoji33]


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It will probably be like how their NCAA football reticule was. It's not tied to anything and you can just click in on your stick to bring it up at anytime and then you can move it anywhere.

[OhMrHanky]

Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

It will probably be like how their NCAA football reticule was. It's not tied to anything and you can just click in on your stick to bring it up at anytime and then you can move it anywhere.

This is a tough one. We've got a lot of speculation on this. I guess we'll see it in action, I hope, this weekend. I know ea play is this weekend. But, I can't remember how they did it last year. Do they show live footage of gameplay? Like, on June 10th, will we see gameplay footage? Because, I remember how particular gamers, maybe specifically, gamechangers created 2-3 min clips that were approved for content by ea or something? Does anyone know this? When will we see the first piece of decent gameplay footage that would probably show this reticule?

I'm sure I can adjust to whatever, but I still think I'd rather not bother with the reticule right away from the snap. I want to look at my first read and/or pass rush issues right after the snap. I feel like controlling a reticule the entire time would ruin QB scrambling ability (or MY scrambling ability. Lol). But, if I'm concentrated on WRs, in general, I can still do everything the same, but then when I fire to a WR, the reticule could pop up, and I can adjust exactly where I want the throw to go in relation to the WR. And, I think they would prefer to keep the WR buttons as that has been in madden forever. So, I would think the reticule would be a quick adjustment to that. But, we'll see.

And, again, if anyone knows the most precise date/time we will see vid game footage of this would be appreciated. This is possibly one of the most interesting addition from Rex's team and I'm really curious to see it in motion, so I can feel ecstatic or cringe, hard. Lol.


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[therealsmallville]

Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

This is a tough one. We've got a lot of speculation on this. I guess we'll see it in action, I hope, this weekend. I know ea play is this weekend. But, I can't remember how they did it last year. Do they show live footage of gameplay? Like, on June 10th, will we see gameplay footage? Because, I remember how particular gamers, maybe specifically, gamechangers created 2-3 min clips that were approved for content by ea or something? Does anyone know this? When will we see the first piece of decent gameplay footage that would probably show this reticule?

I'm sure I can adjust to whatever, but I still think I'd rather not bother with the reticule right away from the snap. I want to look at my first read and/or pass rush issues right after the snap. I feel like controlling a reticule the entire time would ruin QB scrambling ability (or MY scrambling ability. Lol). But, if I'm concentrated on WRs, in general, I can still do everything the same, but then when I fire to a WR, the reticule could pop up, and I can adjust exactly where I want the throw to go in relation to the WR. And, I think they would prefer to keep the WR buttons as that has been in madden forever. So, I would think the reticule would be a quick adjustment to that. But, we'll see.

And, again, if anyone knows the most precise date/time we will see vid game footage of this would be appreciated. This is possibly one of the most interesting addition from Rex's team and I'm really curious to see it in motion, so I can feel ecstatic or cringe, hard. Lol.


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So would you prefer the game to kind of go in slow motion once you pressed the receiver icon? I might be misunderstanding you.

If I'm throwing a slant, once I press 'B' to throw to my B WR, I'm not sure there's time to aim something after that before the QB releases the ball. Or maybe you meant "press B to bring up B's reticule, aim, press B again"? Sorry if I'm being confusing. I'm just curious.

EA has a conference on the 10th I believe, maybe we'll get lucky and see a live demonstration of it. I remember a while back they brought out Joe Montana to demo the Kinect voice commands, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.


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[SteelD34KC]

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This is a tough one. We've got a lot of speculation on this. I guess we'll see it in action, I hope, this weekend. I know ea play is this weekend. But, I can't remember how they did it last year. Do they show live footage of gameplay? Like, on June 10th, will we see gameplay footage? Because, I remember how particular gamers, maybe specifically, gamechangers created 2-3 min clips that were approved for content by ea or something? Does anyone know this? When will we see the first piece of decent gameplay footage that would probably show this reticule?

I'm sure I can adjust to whatever, but I still think I'd rather not bother with the reticule right away from the snap. I want to look at my first read and/or pass rush issues right after the snap. I feel like controlling a reticule the entire time would ruin QB scrambling ability (or MY scrambling ability. Lol). But, if I'm concentrated on WRs, in general, I can still do everything the same, but then when I fire to a WR, the reticule could pop up, and I can adjust exactly where I want the throw to go in relation to the WR. And, I think they would prefer to keep the WR buttons as that has been in madden forever. So, I would think the reticule would be a quick adjustment to that. But, we'll see.

And, again, if anyone knows the most precise date/time we will see vid game footage of this would be appreciated. This is possibly one of the most interesting addition from Rex's team and I'm really curious to see it in motion, so I can feel ecstatic or cringe, hard. Lol.


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Yeah Im with you. I cant wait for monday morning to come for me to look over any footage that was released. Im holding down all my excitement.

[OhMrHanky]

Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

So would you prefer the game to kind of go in slow motion once you pressed the receiver icon? I might be misunderstanding you.

If I'm throwing a slant, once I press 'B' to throw to my B WR, I'm not sure there's time to aim something after that before the QB releases the ball. Or maybe you meant "press B to bring up B's reticule, aim, press B again"? Sorry if I'm being confusing. I'm just curious.

EA has a conference on the 10th I believe, maybe we'll get lucky and see a live demonstration of it. I remember a while back they brought out Joe Montana to demo the Kinect voice commands, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility.


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No, no slow down. And, that's just it. It's hard to totally envision this as well because of how fast things gotta go. And, admittedly, what I'm talking about here, u could argue, is just a tweak on total control passing. But, now, instead of having a general idea of where you're leading the pass, right when u press the WR button, the icon pops up, and then u have like 1 second to whip it to a spot. And, while I know it sounds like it would be too hard/quick, if they start the reticle at the point where a normal throw would be (as opposed to right on your WR), and, of course, they make the reticle quick to move, u could have enough time to whip it a little left, a little short, a little back shoulder, or if u see it's a bad pass to make, maybe u whip it hard out of bounds or something.

Again, it may sound like there's not enough time, but I'm thinking there's just enough. And, I guess, a part of me thinking it's this way is that we have had icon pass buttons for so long, that I expect that to be a part of it. But, if they decided to untangle that specifically for reticle passing, then I guess I could see a reticule popping up right away, and as u go through your reads, u would constantly be moving the reticle. I think, in this instance, that reticle has got to be able to move, though, I think. So, that's another thing that I just want to see NOW!! Lol. The speed and movement of that thing is key. If it moves too slow, you're going to be yelling at your tv and chucking your controller across the room. But, if it's too slow, it might not help enough. And, throwing deep, this is so tricky with a reticle?? If you're throwing it 50-60 yards and maybe leading your WR by 20 yards or something, when/where/how the reticle is going to get there? Lol.

So, again, I'm just going to have to wait and see what it is, but I just can't stop speculating on exactly how they've implemented this. And, as much as I like and trust Rex's team, this is one of those 'madden new items' that u worry the implementation is terrible. Lol. But, it also sounds like u don't have to use it if u don't want to, so it's not going to break the game for me. But, I would like to utilize this type of functionality for some extra realism. Who knows, maybe it's just the vision cone? [emoji6]lol. [emoji33]

Oh, and specifically to your slant example. A slant would be hardest to utilize a reticule, period, I would think. But, what I'm saying, is that u press the B button, and of course, u can hold for bullet, or tap for lob, etc. Your QB winds up, now, even with a bullet, there is some time between button press and QB release. So, the reticle pops up right when u press button, and is available for a period of time dependent on your QB release. Perhaps, they can program it to maintain reticle just past your release. Your eyes wouldn't notice this, and the game still has enough time to adjust the trajectory of the ball right as it leaves QB hands or something. Again, I know it sounds like a short time span (and, it is), but if they tweak a split second here and there, I might be able to work.

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[ODogg]

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They've already indicated that it would be difficult for many folks to utilize until it was learned. The way it was done before with NCAA it was difficult to use; it took a lot of practice. This is going to be a system that will be there for those who choose to master it and can be ignored for those who don't.

[Skyboxer]

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Wish they would add a refined NFL Fever passing system. Wasn't perfect but it was very fun. A few tweaks is all it needed.

Just seen this thread tonight so I'm a bit more intrigued with M18...

[4thQtrStre5S]

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I could see the reticle popping up in the area of the primary receiver and then having to be moved from there; potentially allowing the user to choose their primary pre-snap; else I would imagine it would start center of field...