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  • isdatyt
    Pro
    • Feb 2012
    • 676

    #1

    This mode needs more content

    I know Madden is not the best analogy to use because sheer numbers suggest Madden should have more content. The number of players per year, the NFL has existed way longer, they just have more to work with.

    However. MyTeam has felt dead for so long and it's not just the poor spacing and treatment of players, though I will address that first. We need more players. I think there was a step in the right direction this year, but I still see so many players missing. Obviously this is a licensing issue, so I figured I'd address it first and keep it brief.

    This mode has felt dead since May, to me. Yes there were a couple cards that piqued my interest but overall I haven't cared about this mode in some time and it's the repetition. This is the exact same game it has been severely lacking.

    Blacktop has been the same even though most of the rewards had become stale and outdated throughout the game's life cycle. Isiah is still somewhat, but that's it. The mode died. No rewards were updated and I've already made a thread on how terrible the reward system was executed. I think Blacktop needs monthly updates. Maybe a different Pink Diamond every month. That could actually quell the locker code debate. You have to earn these players. Or one pink diamond token for completing the mode in which you select a PD player. Who knows, but I do know that the mode is severely repetitive.

    MTO, needs upgraded. The seed restrictions need to come back. It puts the brakes on content demand because nobody is itching for a new Diamond if they can't use diamonds yet. I think you should be maxed out by which seed you're in. You shouldn't be able to use diamonds until you get to the Diamond seed. It also eliminates any equalizer debates. All the teams are somewhat equal in each seed. I like the current reward system here. The shoes are a nice touch.

    The Black Market. This idea is garbage. There needs to be some sort of goal to be met that requires you to be somewhat good at the game. I think it needs to only be accessible through certain challenges. Maybe a list of Black Market players that you get an Onyx (Not Free Agent) token to pick from like Domination rewards or the diamond contract or shoe. Making it so you literally do nothing to access it, then not giving anything really other than the Diamond Contract is pretty dumb to me. Nothing in this mode is really based on ability in game and this is the low point.

    Challenges, this took the biggest hit. Firstly those weekly challenges were garbage and the rewards were even worse. Literally every player was undersized for their position. The challenges were also largely garbage. You're up 10, keep this lead for 3 minutes. The game took longer to load that some of these challenges, and then of course so, like the Joe Johnson GW didn't even work. 2K16 challenges were amazing. Of course they screwed us when they dropped a better Kareem at the end but the model was a lot better.

    This mode is probably the biggest money maker for 2K so I don't understand why it seems so bare-bones when compared to other games' Ultimate Team modes. I downloaded 2K16 as a part of Xbox Game Pass and it still had challenges I hadn't completed yet because there were so many, and I had way more free time last year than I do now. This mode just feels lesser than and I don't appreciate it, because it's always my main mode after MyCareer gets inevitably stale.
  • harryl
    MVP
    • Apr 2015
    • 2680

    #2
    Re: This mode needs more content

    As a PC player, the biggest issue for me, that is within 2K's ability/obligation to address, is offline content.

    I just cannot imagine that it takes much time, or that it's difficult, to create the offline Challenges. If they take a lot of resources to create, then that's still 2K's fault, because that would mean they have a dumb process for this.

    The weekly Challenges we got should only take a couple/few hours per week for some low-level developer to create.

    There's really no reason why 2K should not have a ton of offline playability like MUT. There's a lot that should be really easy to make this much richer, offline.

    Well, aside from apathy/laziness, there is one possible reason for the lack of offline content: 2K wants to push us to play online as much as possible. Aside from not needing to put in work to "create" online matches, this makes sense for 2K because online play is what most motivates players to get better and better cards.

    "Keeping up with the Joneses" is the biggest reason why someone with 95 OVR LeBron will feel like they "need" 98 OVR LeBron. This impulse sells packs, of course.

    So, basically, the reason for the lack of offline Challenges, is that 2K is either apathetic, lazy, or greedy. Or some combination of the three.

    Some easy improvements to Challenges:
    • Give us many more Challenges, with new ones added more frequently, and in greater quantity.
    • Go back to having a wide array of Challenges that are always available, during the entire cycle, not just for some limited time.
    • Give us more difficult Challenges. I don't think we had a single HoF Challenge this year, and if we did, just one or two. And, even then, they expired. I get that they don't want to piss off super casuals by making it "impossible" to get a token for the week, but even if they want to make completion of a set accessible, then give some bonus Challenges that are high-level.
    • Or give us the ability to specify the difficulty level at which a Challenge is set. Why not just let us choose to play all Challenges at SS or HoF, and also maybe let us grind a *little* more MT?
    • Give us more Challenges with high-level cards.
    • Give us Challenges with longer quarters, or ability to adjust quarter length (and goals can be pro-rated higher).

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    • jschmib
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 168

      #3
      Re: This mode needs more content

      I don't think the equalizer is a "debate" at this point. Never has a 2k game been this bad. At the very least anyone who has a reasonable amount of playtime in 2k17 knows there is some very screwy stuff going on with mismatched difficulty levels. Sapphire Cousins should not be able to contact layup DI Hakeem, but in some games, he all of a sudden is able to.

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      • Hirtec
        Rookie
        • Sep 2016
        • 24

        #4
        Re: This mode needs more content

        I am mainly an offline-player. Blacktop was nice, but those technical fouls *smh*

        But the lack of singleplayer content is insulting. Sometimes it reminds me of a F2P game. At the beginning you had your warmup-challenges, challenges and weekly challenges. You could get Robert Pack and continue with domination where you could get better cards. That's the point where it became "addictive" and fun to get better cards.

        But after completing historic domination the game was done. Weekly challenges with 2 hours gametime for a whole week. Every few weeks some moment challenges that were gone after a few days. You can't even access them anymore. The warmup-challenges and challenges never got replaced or got additional entries. It's not even worth replaying those games because contracts cost more than you get for the game.
        When I test my god-squad against the cpu(last historic dom team), is costs me 1300 MT per game, the maximal amount of MT you get is 1200 MT. It's like pay2play.

        My hope was a prestige mode in (historic) domination where you could play against the teams again and get more (historic) cards and even complete the sets. But then nobody would buy historic packs anymore.

        Without paying money or working the auction house it's nearly impossible to get a "really" good squad. I bought a basketball game, not a stock trading game.

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        • harryl
          MVP
          • Apr 2015
          • 2680

          #5
          Re: This mode needs more content

          Originally posted by Hirtec
          When I test my god-squad against the cpu(last historic dom team), is costs me 1300 MT per game, the maximal amount of MT you get is 1200 MT. It's like pay2play.
          In case you didn't know, you can pay for contracts through the game menus. If you try to start a game without contracts, you can buy them through the resulting dialog. Diamonds cost 400MT per 5-pack, so a game with 13 Diamonds costs 1040MT. If you run 3 Bronze on the bench, then total cost will be 824MT. With the latter, you can generally break even, even if not playing terribly well.

          Cheap contract cards on the AH have dried up on PC in the recent past week or two. But I can still fairly regularly stumble on a few Gold for 350MT or less, and Silver for 300MT.

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          • testorz
            Rookie
            • Jan 2010
            • 283

            #6
            Re: This mode needs more content

            The challenges were awful and the payout even worse when you consider you have to have 4 or 6 players from a specific team. You spend more than you earn getting the necessary players to play the challenge.

            In Madden you can earn some good coin by playing multiple challenges that have a decent payout.

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            • VegetableLasagna
              Rookie
              • Jan 2015
              • 454

              #7
              Re: This mode needs more content

              They need to get rid of contracts. They make it so I don't even earn Mt, and often times losing mt for each game played. It's bs

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              • NoLeafClover
                Pro
                • Feb 2016
                • 909

                #8
                Re: This mode needs more content

                The biggest problem is that both 2K, and many people in the community, act like new cards are "content".

                Cards are not content, actual stuff to do, play and unlock (through playing actual basketball, not the auction house) is content.

                Hence another reason why I and many others haven't touched MyTeam for months.

                Sent from my SM-T810 using Operation Sports mobile app

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                • isdatyt
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 676

                  #9
                  Re: This mode needs more content

                  Originally posted by NoLeafClover
                  The biggest problem is that both 2K, and many people in the community, act like new cards are "content".

                  Cards are not content, actual stuff to do, play and unlock (through playing actual basketball, not the auction house) is content.

                  Hence another reason why I and many others haven't touched MyTeam for months.

                  Sent from my SM-T810 using Operation Sports mobile app
                  Exactly. The only way to get "content" is luck. Other than PD Duncan (Which depending on who you ask is still luck if you don't get a BS loss or equalized) no cards take skill to get. Luck of the draw on packs, luck of the draw on BT rewards, even domination was easy this year. Last year it took me forever to get that Amethyst Scottie.

                  Madden challenges range in difficulty and they have really great rewards. There are also hundreds of challenges to complete. I think basketball is 100000000 better than football so it's infuriating that MUT blows MT out of the water.

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                  • KingTocco
                    Fino Alla Fine
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 3178

                    #10
                    Re: This mode needs more content

                    I put this on Reddit but I'll add it here too.

                    So much needs to be added because this is such a popular mode and generates so much money for them, here are some of my ideas, a lot have been said already.

                    • MORE Content - Single Player and Online - Copy Madden if you have to, that game has so much MUT content and gives out great rewards, it's easy to build a competitive team just by playing the game
                    • In terms of content - Solo challenges (different game situations), seasons mode with solid rewards to justify the time sink, community challenges similar to Madden and Live, etc.
                    • Make it so only the weekly challenges rotate, all others stay active the whole year so people can complete them whenever they want, also great for people that pick up the game during the year
                    • REMOVE CONTRACTS - VC/MT sink and they are just an annoyance
                    • Remove black market, it's stupid and the way to gain entry is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, it's even worse than looking at the edges of your cards like in 2K16
                    • Remove Technical Fouls in Blacktop mode, they are WAY too frequent and ruin the mode
                    • Add a few simple things to Blacktop gameplay, maybe the ability to call some simple plays, otherwise it's just turbo cheese spam 3s all game
                    • Record keeping and Online Leaderboards, why can't we keep track of our record overall? NBA Live, FIFA, and NHL HUT all do this, it adds something to the mode IMO. More advanced stat tracking and maybe even similar to FIFA where they have the Lifetime stats on the card in addition to your own, people would love this
                    • I think pack odds were pretty decent this year, some of you seem like you want a diamond in every box you open...accept that there will always be people with stacked teams at the beginning or someone with a better lineup than you, it's life
                    • Aside from the "Moments" challenges, I think the ways of earning MyTeam are fairly stingy outside of playing the market, increase the rewards a bit for people that love to just grind
                    • Custom playbooks
                    • Add a jersey selection screen and add in the ability to have alternate uniforms, so many dopes online like to make ridiculous courts and clashing uniforms, it's childish and ruins the game
                    • Add in Online Tourneys in game for rewards, maybe a MyTeam Champions mode similar to FIFA, 2K wants to push eSports so that's a step


                    Many more ideas but this is a start, if they add in even half of these I'll consider 2K18 MyTeam a success
                    Fino Alla Fine

                    Lakers
                    Juventus

                    PSN: KingTocco

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                    • jschmib
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 168

                      #11
                      Re: This mode needs more content

                      Originally posted by KingTocco
                      I put this on Reddit but I'll add it here too.

                      So much needs to be added because this is such a popular mode and generates so much money for them, here are some of my ideas, a lot have been said already.

                      • MORE Content - Single Player and Online - Copy Madden if you have to, that game has so much MUT content and gives out great rewards, it's easy to build a competitive team just by playing the game

                      • In terms of content - Solo challenges (different game situations), seasons mode with solid rewards to justify the time sink, community challenges similar to Madden and Live, etc.

                      • Make it so only the weekly challenges rotate, all others stay active the whole year so people can complete them whenever they want, also great for people that pick up the game during the year

                      • REMOVE CONTRACTS - VC/MT sink and they are just an annoyance

                      • Remove black market, it's stupid and the way to gain entry is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, it's even worse than looking at the edges of your cards like in 2K16

                      • Remove Technical Fouls in Blacktop mode, they are WAY too frequent and ruin the mode

                      • Add a few simple things to Blacktop gameplay, maybe the ability to call some simple plays, otherwise it's just turbo cheese spam 3s all game

                      • Record keeping and Online Leaderboards, why can't we keep track of our record overall? NBA Live, FIFA, and NHL HUT all do this, it adds something to the mode IMO. More advanced stat tracking and maybe even similar to FIFA where they have the Lifetime stats on the card in addition to your own, people would love this

                      • I think pack odds were pretty decent this year, some of you seem like you want a diamond in every box you open...accept that there will always be people with stacked teams at the beginning or someone with a better lineup than you, it's life

                      • Aside from the "Moments" challenges, I think the ways of earning MyTeam are fairly stingy outside of playing the market, increase the rewards a bit for people that love to just grind

                      • Custom playbooks

                      • Add a jersey selection screen and add in the ability to have alternate uniforms, so many dopes online like to make ridiculous courts and clashing uniforms, it's childish and ruins the game

                      • Add in Online Tourneys in game for rewards, maybe a MyTeam Champions mode similar to FIFA, 2K wants to push eSports so that's a step


                      Many more ideas but this is a start, if they add in even half of these I'll consider 2K18 MyTeam a success
                      You forgot the single most ridiculous thing about MT this year. The screwed up matchmaking and calculation of team overalls. An all-ruby team with one DI is a 99 overall, and an all-PD/DI team is also a 99 overall. In addition, mismatched difficulities and the equalizer bull**** have literally ruined this game for me. I could swear my hairline has gotten thinner, I destroyed one controller and snapped in half my disc. Never before has a game been so awful and so frustrating. Skill literally does not matter in some games. An all-DI squad should be able to brutally destroy an emerald/sapphire squad, yet every time I get matched up with a literal all-emerald/sapphire team there is so much tomfoolery going on I may as well throw my PS4 out the window.

                      I do not want you to handicap my mother****ing teams 2k. I think this year they decided to prioritize the speed of matchmaking above all else, and they tried to fix the resulting mismatches in the team ratings by a BRUTAL handicapping/equalizer system. This NEEDS TO GO. There cannot be a repeat of the ruby league in 2k18.

                      Also, publish your damn pack odds. It's the law. I doubt they will until someone sues them. What ridiculous greed.

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                      • harryl
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 2680

                        #12
                        Re: This mode needs more content

                        Originally posted by jschmib
                        You forgot the single most ridiculous thing about MT this year. The screwed up matchmaking and calculation of team overalls. An all-ruby team with one DI is a 99 overall, and an all-PD/DI team is also a 99 overall.
                        I don't understand the formula that they use for calculating Team OVR in the game.

                        The calculation that occurs in 2KMTC's Team OVR seems to have some granularity. I.e. one can have a 99 All Diamond Team and also a 95 All Diamond Team.

                        I don't like beating up on much worse teams in MTO. Last night, I got matched up with a Ruby-ish squad while using my god squad. Guy quit around halftime. So then I switch over to a lineup with a few Diamonds, and then mostly Amethyst and some Ruby...and get matched up with a squad even more godlike than my best squad.

                        I'd LOVE to be able to play not just god squad vs. god squad, but also be able to take an Emerald/Sapphire team and face something similar.

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                        • jschmib
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 168

                          #13
                          Re: This mode needs more content

                          Originally posted by harryl
                          I don't understand the formula that they use for calculating Team OVR in the game.

                          The calculation that occurs in 2KMTC's Team OVR seems to have some granularity. I.e. one can have a 99 All Diamond Team and also a 95 All Diamond Team.

                          I don't like beating up on much worse teams in MTO. Last night, I got matched up with a Ruby-ish squad while using my god squad. Guy quit around halftime. So then I switch over to a lineup with a few Diamonds, and then mostly Amethyst and some Ruby...and get matched up with a squad even more godlike than my best squad.

                          I'd LOVE to be able to play not just god squad vs. god squad, but also be able to take an Emerald/Sapphire team and face something similar.
                          I just faced a squad of all rubies and amethysts. Got my **** ****ing blown out. I was running an all-diamond squad with HAKEEM AND KAREEM and still got ****ed on the boards. **** this mother****ing ruby league. I've never yelled so loudly in my life. God mother****ing damn it. Tried 2-3 zone, tried scoring only on the inside, **** you 2k sports. The entire development team, those stupid ****s, should be fired.
                          Last edited by jschmib; 06-28-2017, 11:56 PM.

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                          • KingTocco
                            Fino Alla Fine
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 3178

                            #14
                            Re: This mode needs more content

                            I don't believe in the equalizer/rubber banding so I don't really care about that.
                            Fino Alla Fine

                            Lakers
                            Juventus

                            PSN: KingTocco

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                            • roboas
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 327

                              #15
                              Re: This mode needs more content

                              Originally posted by KingTocco
                              I don't believe in the equalizer/rubber banding so I don't really care about that.
                              My take on this repeated denial of the equalizer - you fall in one (or more) of the following 3 categories:

                              1) You don't play the game much. You don't have an appreciation for how the game should feel, and therefore you don't notice when things go against you (or for you) that are beyond normal gameplay.

                              2) You are a bad player with a bad lineup. Anything that goes your way must be nice, considering you're always expecting the worst.

                              3) You have a level of cheese that is so high, the game cannot stop you. The equalizer works hard against you only so far as you're attempting to play basketball, but if you're hard spamming one type of dribble move or a weird pick play, or an off ball screen that gets you a bucket every time, you won't notice the equalizer.

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