FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm an Eagles fan...I HATE the Giants--not as bad as the Cowboys--but still....
The question i'm asking is: "Why is Eli Manning rated an 80?"
While its often said that ratings are subjective (and they are--to an extent) i've always thought that using production (which isn't subjective) was more accurate....and that ratings consistency meant more than anything...right? When I look at a guy like Luke Kuechly avg 124 tackles the last 3 years, i'm fine with him having a higher tackle rating than say, Jordan Hicks (who's avg'd 67) it just kinda makes sense.
Which is why the "Eli Thing" is a splinter in my brain...its not like he plays in some small market or is someone you can overlook...he has 2 superbowl rings for crying out loud. Also: 1) How does something like that happen in a legitimate ratings system? 2) It makes me wonder what other ratings are this way off...3) It destroys my confidence in the ratings--which--lets be honest--are the backbone of any sports game....
I first noticed the Eli thing last year when Blake Bortles was rated higher than him...it was only a point but just didn't sit right. I've always thought you look at a 3 year window (emphasizing the most recent yr) when you determine ratings. Blake was coming off his first big year (58.9-35-18-4428) after a bad rookie season (58.9-2908-11-17). Eli was coming off a strong 2014 (63.1-30-14-4410) and followed it up with an even stronger 2015 (62.6-35-14-4436) NY was 6-10 and Jacksonville was 5-11.... I looked at Eli's 84 rating and Blake's 85 and thought...How? How does that happen?
Then this year happened...I watched Eli drop 4 more OVR points and i'm kinda baffled. How does a guy who's averaged 30TDs and 14 INTs the last 3 years (63-4027-26-16 last year) get rated an 80? How other players perform in comparison certainly matters...sure--but explain that when Ben Roethslisberger (27-12 during that same span) is rated a 91? Help me out here...is it yardage? Can't be...Eli's last 3 yrs are 4410-4436-4027...Ben? 4952-3938-3819. Maybe having a really good receiving corps means Eli's numbers are skewed? Again--nope. Ben has had a very deep group led by AB, who many consider the best in the NFL.
The only real discrepancy I could see is the Giants record was 6-10 in 2014 and 2015 and was 11-5 last year while PIT was 11-5 in 2015, 10-6 in 2015 and 11-5 last year...and while a winning record should factor as a small part of rating...is it worth 11 whole points?
P.S. Carson Wentz had a solid rookie year (62.1-3782-16-14) and is rated a 79.
Do you guys see my dilemma? What do you think? What am I missing here? Help me out.
The question i'm asking is: "Why is Eli Manning rated an 80?"
While its often said that ratings are subjective (and they are--to an extent) i've always thought that using production (which isn't subjective) was more accurate....and that ratings consistency meant more than anything...right? When I look at a guy like Luke Kuechly avg 124 tackles the last 3 years, i'm fine with him having a higher tackle rating than say, Jordan Hicks (who's avg'd 67) it just kinda makes sense.
Which is why the "Eli Thing" is a splinter in my brain...its not like he plays in some small market or is someone you can overlook...he has 2 superbowl rings for crying out loud. Also: 1) How does something like that happen in a legitimate ratings system? 2) It makes me wonder what other ratings are this way off...3) It destroys my confidence in the ratings--which--lets be honest--are the backbone of any sports game....
I first noticed the Eli thing last year when Blake Bortles was rated higher than him...it was only a point but just didn't sit right. I've always thought you look at a 3 year window (emphasizing the most recent yr) when you determine ratings. Blake was coming off his first big year (58.9-35-18-4428) after a bad rookie season (58.9-2908-11-17). Eli was coming off a strong 2014 (63.1-30-14-4410) and followed it up with an even stronger 2015 (62.6-35-14-4436) NY was 6-10 and Jacksonville was 5-11.... I looked at Eli's 84 rating and Blake's 85 and thought...How? How does that happen?
Then this year happened...I watched Eli drop 4 more OVR points and i'm kinda baffled. How does a guy who's averaged 30TDs and 14 INTs the last 3 years (63-4027-26-16 last year) get rated an 80? How other players perform in comparison certainly matters...sure--but explain that when Ben Roethslisberger (27-12 during that same span) is rated a 91? Help me out here...is it yardage? Can't be...Eli's last 3 yrs are 4410-4436-4027...Ben? 4952-3938-3819. Maybe having a really good receiving corps means Eli's numbers are skewed? Again--nope. Ben has had a very deep group led by AB, who many consider the best in the NFL.
The only real discrepancy I could see is the Giants record was 6-10 in 2014 and 2015 and was 11-5 last year while PIT was 11-5 in 2015, 10-6 in 2015 and 11-5 last year...and while a winning record should factor as a small part of rating...is it worth 11 whole points?
P.S. Carson Wentz had a solid rookie year (62.1-3782-16-14) and is rated a 79.
Do you guys see my dilemma? What do you think? What am I missing here? Help me out.
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