[jeremym480]

Quote: Originally Posted by coachcolbert

wow! this is interesting. i havent bought Madden since Madden25 on the PS4 release. i was tired of Madden being the same thing, so i stopped supporting the game. i came in the thread today because ive watched videos trying to decide if i want to buy Madden 18, and i find this thread here - wow! im sure many of you play 2k as well. this is the first year im NOT buying 2k (been playing since dreamcast ORIGINAL 2k) because i have the same complaints many of you here concerning Madden. 2k is GREAT before the business of gaming and the 2k community gets involved. 2k is today what Madden was in the 90s. everyone (or at least) most gamers know of and play 2k even if they dont watch basketball, mainly for the myplayer modes (park/proam). this has almost killed the sim aspect of the community (NOT the sim experience). this happened becuase 2k started listening to the casual players more so than the their core sim base. now i find i myself in a place where i was with Madden spending $$$ on a game that i felt didnt care what i (or folks like me) really wanted to see as long as i spent my money - they were good. im switching to live this year because though it is an inferior game (im guessing because i havent played 2k18) i enjoy it and theyve listened to a part of the basketball gaming community that has been ignored imo over the past few years. its interesting to see from the Madden communitys POV appreciating and praising the communication between the 2k community and devs, when a lot of us are frustrated by that very feeling of being ignored by 2k as well. you cant please everybody and at the end of the day its a business. just sucks that business will eventually suck the fun right out of gaming industry over time

I would agree with most of this post if we were talking about gameplay but we're talking about their respective franchise modes here so I don't agree that 2k caves to casuals for MyLeague.

Unfortunately, for both gameplay teams, the causal/YouTube crowd are usually the loudest and that's why we see the changes we do. It's happened in Madden with things like QB accuracy and there have been times where 2k has completely changed and even broken gameplay while trying to cater to casuals. 2K15 is the greatest example but it happened with 2K17 as well. At this point, if I like gameplay at release I'm considering taking my PS4 offline because I'm afraid they'll mess gameplay up again and I don't want to constantly be tinkering with my sliders.

And even with that said Mike Wang (Beluba) and Da_Czar are gameplay devs and they probably post on OS more than they MyLeague guys. They may not always win out even if they agree with what posters are saying here because they "suits" likely have the final say. However, at least we know they are hearing our feedback and are open to discussion.