so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

[grahf21]

Hi People,

I'm HUGE on simulation stats. Basically I want to replicate the box score as realistic as possible each game. 3P FGA, TO, PIP all that good stuff. Every year I assess my sliders by playing games using random current teams against CPU and jot down all the important stats and average it out over 10 games to see the team average per game and compare it to the real life median on basketball-reference.com or ESPN. Then rinse repeat after slider adjustments. I haven't purchased the game yet, but I want to know what stats are NOT reliably replicated even with tinkering of the sliders.

Last year Rebounds (too high), Fouls (too low), CPU FTA (too low) to name a few could not be made realistic by any means and it seems like Rebounds and Fouls are again an issue based on posts I've been browsing through. I know the game just got released, but any thoughts on this is appreciated. Thanks.

PS. I play on PS4, so never got to try the SimWorld roster and sliders.

[antdoggydogg]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

Your routine sounds a lot like mine.

Unfortunately, it's the same issues this year. Mostly just too many rebounds and not enough fouls. But I think the fouls issue can be fixed with a little more work with sliders and player draw fouls ratings/commit foul tendencies. I am doing some experiments with this.

Rebounds I can never figure out. Some stats can only be controlled by the user though, sometimes we have a tendency to speed up the court and continue the back and forth game without stopping to slow down. Pace controls a lot. And we need to intentionally foul more in strategic situations.

[ifeanyi18]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

Your routine sounds a lot like mine.

Unfortunately, it's the same issues this year. Mostly just too many rebounds and not enough fouls. But I think the fouls issue can be fixed with a little more work with sliders and player draw fouls ratings/commit foul tendencies. I am doing some experiments with this.

Rebounds I can never figure out. Some stats can only be controlled by the user though, sometimes we have a tendency to speed up the court and continue the back and forth game without stopping to slow down. Pace controls a lot. And we need to intentionally foul more in strategic situations.

Rebounds being high is just tied into the lack of free throw attempts/lack of possessions ending in a turnover(which also relates to the fouls, moving screens, charges, over the back etc..) Then of course overall FG%/pace affects it as well but I think primary reason people see too many boards is because of the former assuming they're not playing at a rampant unrealistic pace.

The contact frequency sliders have the biggest effect on free throw attempts, i've been able to get pretty accurate attempts in previous games by maxing driving/inside contact shot frequency.

[antdoggydogg]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

Those things are definitely all tied together. I also think there might be a problem with team rebounds being categorized as regular rebounds?

[grahf21]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

I'm very aware of pace affecting stats but I believe pace can be inferred by average FGA per game, which league average is 84 or 85. This amount of shots is what I strive for sometimes even artificially by running more plays or what not. Well it's too bad that rebound stats can't be fixed. Fouls I can turn the other way, but rebounds is hard to look over. Such a vital stat.

Last year I couldn't consistently get the opposing players to head to the line. Turbo+block failed to do the job. Do cpu players get to the line 24 times a game in this version?

[WarNerve74]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

Offensive rebounds no matter what. It's not that uncommon to have people get 8+ rebounds in the game. I've tried lowering that slider, still to no avail

[VAWereWolf65]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

Non-Shooting fouls

[thedude]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

One of the biggest problems with two many rebounds is not enough balls go out of bounds off a player after a missed shot. I think the 'hands' slider helps with that, but i'm scared to lower it too much, because it also affects other things in gameplay.

[grahf21]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

Anyone with experience with the Xbox SimWorld sliders and tendencies have input on box score stat replication?

I have PS4 but there is suggestion that SimWorld will be available for PS4 this year.

Thanks bunch.

[grahf21]

Re: so which stats can never be fixed by sliders?

One of the biggest problems with two many rebounds is not enough balls go out of bounds off a player after a missed shot. I think the 'hands' slider helps with that, but i'm scared to lower it too much, because it also affects other things in gameplay.

This is so true. Plus over the back fouls would help as well. I don't know what the average over the back foul per game is, but even if this was ARTIFICIALLY increased, it would solve two things superficially - reb per game and non-shooting fouls per game.