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  • ataman5
    MVP
    • Jun 2007
    • 2620

    #1

    Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

    So as far as last year went, i have every right to be scared of those daily updates ruining the gameplay and make it everything easy for the crybabies and cheesers and such. So i just wanted to start this thread that as 2k promised they won't change and touch gameplay throught the year incase there is anything big to solve but why do i see this already in just the 2nd day of the game?

    Are we going through the same awful experience as we had last year by daily or weekly changes and all those done for casuals to please or we won't?

    I just hope, wish, pray we won't...

    Last edited by ataman5; 09-20-2017, 12:33 PM.

  • AshamanCarnage
    Rookie
    • Jul 2006
    • 1252

    #2
    Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

    This is talked about more in another thread but this isn't just a random gameplay fix to make it easier for people to dunk on defenders, certain archetypes for PGs and SGs could not and would not dunk.

    My Slashing Playmaker (PG) is almost at gold for one man fast break and has completed a whopping two dunks. They didn't make it easier for everyone to posterize people, they fixed a pretty big problem for guard's with high dunk attributes.

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    • YGMcFly
      Rookie
      • Oct 2016
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

      the update was really for people who has slashers mainly the point guard slashers, because like 95% of the time we was laying the ball up while holding turbo and get a dunk like once every 10 games


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      • HoustonHarden
        Rookie
        • Sep 2017
        • 210

        #4
        Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

        The problem is casuals have the loudest voice. That YouTuber ipodkingcarter is a confessed casual after his last video yet they always take his advice and invite him to play the game early the guy is not good player nor has any knowledge of the game. He won't even touched 5v5 NBA teams because he would be outmatched by almost everyone

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        • ataman5
          MVP
          • Jun 2007
          • 2620

          #5
          Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

          Originally posted by AshamanCarnage
          This is talked about more in another thread but this isn't just a random gameplay fix to make it easier for people to dunk on defenders, certain archetypes for PGs and SGs could not and would not dunk.

          My Slashing Playmaker (PG) is almost at gold for one man fast break and has completed a whopping two dunks. They didn't make it easier for everyone to posterize people, they fixed a pretty big problem for guard's with high dunk attributes.
          This doesn't say as you mention it like though as you may see; it says dunking is easier with your myplayer...

          Either way i want to be sure that we won't get through of all last years pain again this year..

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          • AshamanCarnage
            Rookie
            • Jul 2006
            • 1252

            #6
            Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

            Originally posted by ataman5
            This doesn't say as you mention it like though as you may see; it says dunking is easier with your myplayer...

            Either way i want to be sure that we won't get through of all last years pain again this year..
            While it is true he doesn't use my exact wordage, I'm gonna take the previous comments he made (in that other thread specifically related to this problem) and use those comments to come up with a pretty solid idea on what he is talking about, instead of just jumping to conclusions.

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            • aakaido
              Rookie
              • Feb 2012
              • 282

              #7
              Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

              Originally posted by ataman5
              This doesn't say as you mention it like though as you may see; it says dunking is easier with your myplayer...
              ..... for guards who have high dunk ratings and can't dunk. It's been a widely discussed issue on OS. It'd be no reason to make dunking easier otherwise.

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              • BehindtheArc88
                Banned
                • Sep 2017
                • 92

                #8
                Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                Originally posted by ataman5
                So as far as last year went, i have every right to be scared of those daily updates ruining the gameplay and make it everything easy for the crybabies and cheesers and such. So i just wanted to start this thread that as 2k promised they won't change and touch gameplay throught the year incase there is anything big to solve but why do i see this already in just the 2nd day of the game?

                Are we going through the same awful experience as we had last year by daily or weekly changes and all those done for casuals to please or we won't?

                I just hope, wish, pray we won't...

                So was there a gameplay update today?

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #9
                  Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                  I understand the concern, but the title is pretty misleading, its to fix a specific issue..

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                  • Saro1
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 659

                    #10
                    Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                    The gameplay for me now is perfect don't tune anything.
                    PSN: SaroMeci

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                    • ataman5
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2620

                      #11
                      Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                      Originally posted by AshamanCarnage
                      While it is true he doesn't use my exact wordage, I'm gonna take the previous comments he made (in that other thread specifically related to this problem) and use those comments to come up with a pretty solid idea on what he is talking about, instead of just jumping to conclusions.
                      I don't know any other thread sorry just because i don't want to look much of it on OS these time especially as i enjoy the overall gameplay very very much if you know what i mean.

                      i don't want to read of all who can't make jumpshots and their cries, i just have seen this on twitter as it says with the wording as is and want to look at it as a bigger picture and that bigger picture word is 'no gameplay changes' for me..

                      Thank you for taking the time to explain it those specifics though, appreciate it.

                      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                      I understand the concern, but the title is pretty misleading, its to fix a specific issue..

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                      I'm so sorry about that it was pulse that i wrote down right away, you're right would you make the necessary changes as you may wish to bcs i can't change the topic name. Sorry again. I think i changed that btw.
                      Last edited by ataman5; 09-20-2017, 12:33 PM.

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                      • nuttyrich
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 489

                        #12
                        Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                        Originally posted by HoustonHarden
                        The problem is casuals have the loudest voice. That YouTuber ipodkingcarter is a confessed casual after his last video yet they always take his advice and invite him to play the game early the guy is not good player nor has any knowledge of the game. He won't even touched 5v5 NBA teams because he would be outmatched by almost everyone
                        Let's be honest..wherever the money flows..that's where the patch goes. . I could of sworn all the years I played..2k was geared towards a SIM player... now? Seems like it changes every patch..

                        Writing was on the wall already when ronnie streamed the week before the NY event and the NY event.,and just was clamoring how amazing it was to interact with a footlocker guy..and get a cool hair cut..oh and look you can walk around and see the graphical detail..

                        All sounds great buddy..but what about making the gameplay work first!!!!
                        Skip the silly sneakers haircuts..and ramming VC down our throats because right now you for the market...

                        LIVE did well this year..not up to 2k level but next year..will be much better...and no gouging? ??

                        Never thought we'd be at this point.

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                        • extremeskins04
                          That's top class!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3868

                          #13
                          Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                          I understand Slashing Guards weren't dunking enough in MyPlayer, but there are two problems here:

                          1. How do you patch MyPlayer's ability to make dunking "easier" or "happen more often" without it changing how dunking works in MyLeague/MyGM modes?

                          2. This is just the beginning of where the MyPlayers cry out as something is too hard or doesn't happen enough and the devs patch it and it ends up breaking gameplay.

                          Gameplay is 95% perfect right now. It does not need to be changed because a few people are complaining about something being too hard or not happening enough. Again, I understand about the Slashing Guards not dunking enough.

                          Like I said, this is just the beginning of where the gameplay is going to be destroyed in a month or so.

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                          • nuttyrich
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 489

                            #14
                            Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                            Originally posted by extremeskins04
                            I understand Slashing Guards weren't dunking enough in MyPlayer, but there are two problems here:

                            1. How do you patch MyPlayer's ability to make dunking "easier" or "happen more often" without it changing how dunking works in MyLeague/MyGM modes?

                            2. This is just the beginning of where the MyPlayers cry out as something is too hard or doesn't happen enough and the devs patch it and it ends up breaking gameplay.

                            Gameplay is 95% perfect right now. It does not need to be changed because a few people are complaining about something being too hard or not happening enough. Again, I understand about the Slashing Guards not dunking enough.

                            Like I said, this is just the beginning of where the gameplay is going to be destroyed in a month or so.
                            I agree. I played it midnight last Friday. .and we'll only OT to play about 3 games.,and it seemed very very good...I believe if a game is about 95 % perfect.. please TUNE it about best.. if making a guy DUNK more creates a whole slew of other problems...its NOT worth it.

                            You have almost a perfect game., you're guy doing a highlight dunk..or does a nice layup..it's stead reason to BREAK the game., NO!!
                            2 points is 2 points.. don't get me wrong this NEEDS to be addressed for great simulation feeling overall..but altering this fundamentally. Is asking for MORE problems..

                            95 / amazing game., and my guy doesn't do a highlight dunk that I want.. give me the 95 %..and wait for A TUNER not a patch.

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                            • rhein77
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 520

                              #15
                              Re: Devs started to change gameplay already through roster updates...

                              I don't think we need to be worried about this issue. An attribute change for an architype in an isolated online mode. Maybe it was just as simple as increasing the rating.

                              The updates that you have to download before you play... Those are the game play changes that I absolutely fear.

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