FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

**andanesean** · 09-25-2017, 01:26 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

So you changed your mind:wink:

**ricardodc** · 09-25-2017, 03:42 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Originally posted by andanesean

So you changed your mind:wink:

The work was already partially done so I decided to continue it, independently of the actual effect on gameplay. I hope it works as it should.

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**TheAwesomeGem** · 09-25-2017, 05:07 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Does custom tactics even work in FIFA 18 or are they overridden by team styles?

**ricardodc** · 09-25-2017, 05:41 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Originally posted by TheAwesomeGem

Does custom tactics even work in FIFA 18 or are they overridden by team styles?

There are mixed opinions about FIFA 18 CTTs effects on gameplay and if the "team styles" are present and independent of CTTs.

I am doing this work so people can test CTTs and give some feedback about it. Are CTTs working? If so, are they working on all teams or just in some (overridden)? If they work, how are they affecting gameplay? Is there a need to make adjustments to the current values and why?

Cheers!

**Tomba** · 09-25-2017, 11:10 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

I played with the two best teams from EVERY country/division

example went to brazil and picked two of the best ranked teams

started noticing that the "announcer" started saying something to the effect of "wow you dont see much of this often their using a 4-4-2 formation"

WELL

I noticed that it happened every other match or so.

BUT i got great animations with these matches SOMEHOW

When i played the best English French and German division teams i noticed THEIR formations were moreso 4-3-3 holding

The best animations came from a match against germany's bayern and wolsfburg.

Both teams share the same 4-33 holding

but a brunt of all the teams i tested ALL had "holding as part of their formation

ANY team that didnt have 442 or 433 with holding had wonky errant animations. and by wonky errant animations its those running animations where player pivot at an awkward weird angle as if they HAVE to be somewhere no mater what. WHICH MEANS! They are trying to get to a position! but from whative found FORCING a computer assisted player back into position makes for twitchy gameplay

Sliders might need tactic work too

**Tomba** · 09-25-2017, 11:11 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Originally posted by TheAwesomeGem

Does custom tactics even work in FIFA 18 or are they overridden by team styles?

Ohhhh they work my friend

Look at my findings from my above post

**andanesean** · 09-27-2017, 05:22 AM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Originally posted by Tomba

I played with the two best teams from EVERY country/division

example went to brazil and picked two of the best ranked teams

started noticing that the "announcer" started saying something to the effect of "wow you dont see much of this often their using a 4-4-2 formation"

WELL

I noticed that it happened every other match or so.

BUT i got great animations with these matches SOMEHOW

When i played the best English French and German division teams i noticed THEIR formations were moreso 4-3-3 holding

The best animations came from a match against germany's bayern and wolsfburg.

Both teams share the same 4-33 holding

but a brunt of all the teams i tested ALL had "holding as part of their formation

ANY team that didnt have 442 or 433 with holding had wonky errant animations. and by wonky errant animations its those running animations where player pivot at an awkward weird angle as if they HAVE to be somewhere no mater what. WHICH MEANS! They are trying to get to a position! but from whative found FORCING a computer assisted player back into position makes for twitchy gameplay

Sliders might need tactic work too

Let me give you advice, to test the durability of CTT, you should find the best and worst teams to give the rating more supstans. I want to see bad team tactics before I believe anything !. 433 in England, last year 5 out of 20 teams used this formation as standard and in France 7 teams, so it's a generalization that does not last. In Germany, only Bayern and Hoffenheim used it as a different formation!. It will be brain dead only to make team tactics to 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 ?. What about all the other tactacis formation, something EA misunderstood ?.

**bigdawg1690** · 09-27-2017, 06:03 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

I have used these for a few games, CTT's definitely work this year. I especially like the variable line settings you use, I think it has a good impact on the different teams you play. One thing you may need to look at is FB positioning, as the values seem a little low for the bigger teams that I would expect to push up more. I played against Real Madrid and although Marcelo & Carvejal did get forward quite a bit, it seemed they didn't push up quite as much as they normally do. Just a thought. Really liking the game this year!

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**ricardodc** · 09-27-2017, 06:16 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Originally posted by bigdawg1690

I have used these for a few games, CTT's definitely work this year. I especially like the variable line settings you use, I think it has a good impact on the different teams you play. One thing you may need to look at is FB positioning, as the values seem a little low for the bigger teams that I would expect to push up more. I played against Real Madrid and although Marcelo & Carvejal did get forward quite a bit, it seemed they didn't push up quite as much as they normally do. Just a thought. Really liking the game this year!

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Thanks for your feedback. I have not played the full release, so I did not had the chance to test how the values are working.

About lines, I don't understand why they are not included in CTTs, as they are clearly part of teams id.

For the FB slider I take into account Line hight (RL %possession & %possession in the first third) + RL %crosses. The current range is 25-50. Maybe I should change it to 40-60? What do you suggest?

Cheers!

**bigdawg1690** · 09-27-2017, 06:25 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Originally posted by ricardodc

Thanks for your feedback. I have not played the full release, so I did not had the chance to test how the values are working.

For the FB slider I take into account Line hight (RL %possession & %possession in the first third) + RL %crosses. The current range is 25-50. Maybe I should change it to 40-60? What do you suggest?

Cheers!

I would think those values would be better, but I don't want to pass judgment without testing some more. I'll jump on here in a bit and give it a go, and report back.

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**papinho81** · 09-28-2017, 07:22 AM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

I like your idea of integrating some sliders in the tactic settings (despite having to adjust them before every game), but I am wandering if changing sliders like this does not impact others unwanted aspect of the game such as ball physics, AI attention behavior ect...

I will give it a try for sure!

**andanesean** · 09-28-2017, 09:51 AM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Have looked at EA CTT for the English team. Let me start by saying I do not believe they have made CTT for Teams, but they have made tactics for different playing styles. How can a team like Fleetwood Town have 31 in pass change Creation and Manchester City has 37?!. I could come up with many other examples but I have already seen enough, I use my values for 17 so far.

**ricardodc** · 09-28-2017, 12:43 PM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Originally posted by papinho81

I like your idea of integrating some sliders in the tactic settings (despite having to adjust them before every game), but I am wandering if changing sliders like this does not impact others unwanted aspect of the game such as ball physics, AI attention behavior ect...

I will give it a try for sure!

I understand your point, but in my opinion, setting all teams with the same positioning (lines) it's very unrealistic. I hope if there are undesired side effects they can be minor. Let me know how it played out for you. Remember that the values are preliminar and can be adjusted (by changing sliders ranges).

Originally posted by andanesean

Have looked at EA CTT for the English team. Let me start by saying I do not believe they have made CTT for Teams, but they have made tactics for different playing styles. How can a team like Fleetwood Town have 31 in pass change Creation and Manchester City has 37?!. I could come up with many other examples but I have already seen enough, I use my values for 17 so far.

As usual... If at least the values result in the proper gameplay styles we have some tools to make teams play like they should.

Cheers!

**andanesean** · 09-30-2017, 04:35 AM

Re: FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

Hi Ricardo
Just wanted to tell you I'm leaving this forum. I've got enough of that narrow-minded one way things work in here . All the smarmy's just not me I am disgusted by it. So it's better to stop before it goes wrong. Thanks for the good cooperation, and wish you good luck with FIFA18 which is excellent.

FIFA 18 Teams Custom Tactics Sliders

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