The “2K Bounce” has to be addressed

[EZMADDEN]

This is an issue that I never see many people talking about, but I know it’s something that we all hate. It’s something I’ve deemed the “2K Bounce.”

You know, when the ball bounces around every single part of the basketball hoop before finally dropping into the basket? Yeah that issue.

This is something that wasn’t a real issue up until the past 3 iterations of 2K (NBA 2K16, NBA 2K17, and NBA 2K18). But I think it’s time it be addressed!

In a real-life game of basketball the ball will every once in a while bounce around the rim once or twice before dropping in. But in 2K on half of the shot attempts the ball seems to being playing a game of Plinko before finally deciding to enter the basket.

My main issue with this is the frequency in which we see this and the situations we see this. They need to be toned down big-time! It happens way too much and it’s a complete eyesore!

It seems to happen the most during these scenarios:
- Mid range jumpshots
- Contested jumpshots
- Players with low shooting ratings shot attempts
- Free Throws (generally happens the most in real-life but 2K goes overboard with it)

Now I couldn’t think of what in the code of the game could cause this to happen? Or is it an animation? I’m not 100% sure but I think it’s time for the 2K Bounce to go!

Who’s with me?!?

[jeebs9]

Re: The “2K Bounce” has to be addressed

This can't be real. There is no problem with the ball bouncing around.

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[EZMADDEN]

The “2K Bounce” has to be addressed

This can't be real. There is no problem with the ball bouncing around.

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There is no way you haven’t noticed this... Maybe you’ve just become immune to it over time. But the ball bounces around the rim multiple times and goes in waaaaay too often!!! All of the scenarios stated in the OP are falling victim to this issue. I really don’t see how you’ve missed this lol! Maybe I need to record it every time it happens throughout one game and you’ll see what I mean.

[OrlandoTill]

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The only time I've seen it play Plinko is when users are fighting over the ball when it's about to touch the rim(i.e. committing egregious acts of both offensive and defensive basket interference) or excellent releases.

I also agree it happens on free throws but it looks realistic to me

[EZMADDEN]

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The only time I've seen it play Plinko is when users are fighting over the ball when it's about to touch the rim(i.e. committing egregious acts of both offensive and defensive basket interference) or excellent releases.



I also agree it happens on free throws but it looks realistic to me

It’s not that it looks unrealistic, but that it happens so frequently. It just kind of kills the flow of the game way too often. Way more than it occurs in real-life.

[jeebs9]

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There is no way you haven’t noticed this... Maybe you’ve just become immune to it over time. But the ball bounces around the rim multiple times and goes in waaaaay too often!!! All of the scenarios stated in the OP are falling victim to this issue. I really don’t see how you’ve missed this lol! Maybe I need to record it every time it happens throughout one game and you’ll see what I mean.

It’s not that it looks unrealistic, but that it happens so frequently. It just kind of kills the flow of the game way too often. Way more than it occurs in real-life.

Have you asked yourself why it happens?

So for a long time 2k has these visual cues for jumpshots. And your right 2k16 was the first. So for jumpers. You can tell what your release was. By how the ball hits the rim. If it long hitting the back of the rim it's a early release. If it's late, it hits the front of the rim. They basically expanded on that simple logic. Perfect releases go splash. But all the situation you just explained above are for contested or ify jumpers. I've seen just as many misses as makes. That's why I was like is this.

You have to also understand that it's a simulation of real life. Your right in that it doesn't happen that much in real life. But in 5 minute quarters. Yeah, you might not see it if you had scaled like real life.

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[EZMADDEN]

The “2K Bounce” has to be addressed

Have you asked yourself why it happens?

So for a long time 2k has these visual cues for jumpshots. And your right 2k16 was the first. So for jumpers. You can tell what your release was. By how the ball hits the rim. If it long hitting the back of the rim it's a early release. If it's late, it hits the front of the rim. They basically expanded on that simple logic. Perfect releases go splash. But all the situation you just explained above are for contested or ify jumpers. I've seen just as many misses as makes. That's why I was like is this.

You have to also understand that it's a simulation of real life. Your right in that it doesn't happen that much in real life. But in 5 minute quarters. Yeah, you might not see it if you had scaled like real life.

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Okay I do understand what you are saying here. Maybe it just seems more prevalent to me because I play with shooting on Real Player % and 12 min quarters so it’s happening more times in a game for me than say someone playing PNO on 5 min quarters.

[aakaido]

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I'm with you man. I've always said it happens way too often as well, especially on the cpu's end in my career. Rarely do I get the same bounce, and when I do, it usually rims out. The basketball gods have to shine their grace on me for it to have the lucky bounce the computer gets.

Outside of it being an eyesore and unrealistic at the rate it happens, what really pisses me off is that you can tell when the ball's momentum will or supposed to carry it out and fall outside the rim, but it doesn't. Like some force field is tapping it back in. I hate watching the ball lean almost completely outside rim, only for it to stop and go the other way when I attempt a rebound.


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[VDusen04]

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I've felt this way about the rim bounces for years but I've just kind of accepted them for what they were, since I couldn't really quantify if it just felt too often or if it really did happen too often.

Again, tough to say since it's a feel thing, but a lot of jumpers over the years have always felt less pure in 2K than it seems like they would in real life. Makes tend to be more frequently pure in real life. Clean swishes, the swishes that hit part of the rim on the way down, rattlers, and then the occasional multi-bounce "lucky" finish. That last option seems to pop up quite a bit more often in 2K than reality.

Not sure I'd want to be a part of any team responsible for tediously tracking how often those types of finishes actually occur though (and from what distances).

All that said, 2K's made some nice strides with rim physics over the last five years. There used to be a standard "2K rim response" that seemed to hold true since 2K2. Now there's a lot more long rebounds and the swishes look and feel more pure. So hopefully they keep on moving in that direction.

[jeebs9]

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I've felt this way about the rim bounces for years but I've just kind of accepted them for what they were, since I couldn't really quantify if it just felt too often or if it really did happen too often.

Again, tough to say since it's a feel thing, but a lot of jumpers over the years have always felt less pure in 2K than it seems like they would in real life. Makes tend to be more frequently pure in real life. Clean swishes, the swishes that hit part of the rim on the way down, rattlers, and then the occasional multi-bounce "lucky" finish. That last option seems to pop up quite a bit more often in 2K than reality.

Not sure I'd want to be a part of any team responsible for tediously tracking how often those types of finishes actually occur though (and from what distances).

All that said, 2K's made some nice strides with rim physics over the last five years. There used to be a standard "2K rim response" that seemed to hold true since 2K2. Now there's a lot more long rebounds and the swishes look and feel more pure. So hopefully they keep on moving in that direction.

Agree agree agree!

I love the long rebounds. It's possibly my favorite thing this year. Especially the ones that go out of bounds. I've gotten to a few for offensive rebounds which is cool. But there have been some that I end up going out of bounds for lol.

I have a sight idea of the forumla or the shot success tree. But agree. I wouldn't want to be part of it.

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[BezO]

Re: The “2K Bounce” has to be addressed

I see a lot, but I also play 12 min qtrs with real fg%.

[jeebs9]

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I see a lot, but I also play 12 min qtrs with real fg%.

Real fg might be the problem here guys.

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[EZMADDEN]

The “2K Bounce” has to be addressed

Real fg might be the problem here guys.

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I hope it’s not because I don’t think I’ll ever go away from Real Player %. I like to have my players ratings determine outcomes and not my user input. But I do have to say I see it almost just as much using User Timing in online games. So who really knows.

[aakaido]

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Real fg might be the problem here guys.

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I never play on real fg%. Don't think that's the issue.

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[Sundown]

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Real fg might be the problem here guys.

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I don't think it's a problem with Real FG%. I don't play with Real FG% and I've also noticed that it happens way too often the last few years, especially from the CPU. 2K added it as "flavor" but it comes up too often-- so often that anytime the ball bounces more than once on the rim I assume it's going in. It doesn't help that it also appears to be a "canned" sequence and there aren't many instances where the ball bounces high up and doesn't go in.

It feels like less of a problem this year, but it's still too much and feels like CPU cheese when it happens.