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  • HypeRNT
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 368

    #1

    I hope a lesson can be learned here

    With what seems to be a super unbalanced and poorly thought out game riddled with inconsistencies and poor judgement backed up by small player numbers which usually goes hand in hand with bad sales, i hope there is a lesson to be learned here since the other 2 games clearly did not work.

    I hope there are punishments given out to the people who simply failed to understand their community and core base of supporters, because clearly the dev's were lead into the wrong direction. Prime examples can be found about the stats and how limiting they are going completely in the wrong direction, instead of more unique stats that MMA actually has, we got more stats shoved into 1 category. We also have odd choice to mix roster fighters with caf's in UT mode which seems more money hungry then ever before.

    The stamina system makes 0 sense, you get more tired because you throw more strikes, but if you end up hitting the guy and doing dmg, at the end of the fight both fighters have similar stamina, fighter A because he threw a lot of strikes but took 0 dmg, fighter B because he threw no strikes but took heavy damage.

    We still have damage indicators even though damage animations are in the game clearly showing all phases of damage, creating a false illusion that if your head isnt red you shouldn't be getting KO'ed, just pushing our immersion further away.

    Overall, tons of issues that most of you can just see on the front page of this very own forum that make you want to scratch your head on how this could have gone so horribly wrong.

    Hopefully less radical ideas/changes and more improvements on what made other MMA games so fun to play, the fact that years and years later some of the older MMA games still outshine the next gen super graphical juiced games is beyond sad and the confidence in developers to get it right is ever fading.
    Last edited by HypeRNT; 02-08-2018, 11:30 PM.
  • bcelts
    Rookie
    • Jul 2011
    • 472

    #2
    Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

    Give me a break! Getting so sick of the negative posts. The ea UFC development team is great. Especially GPD. They worked really hard and are doing a great job. The game is really good and they will keep working to improve it. I feel very fortunate to have them make this game.

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    • HypeRNT
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 368

      #3
      Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

      Learn to deal with criticism then, all my points are valid and can and are proven in the game.

      Its also my opinion, even though it is leaning to being supported by facts, especially once we get further numbers since right now there is a small player base playing the game which is not good for such a new game.

      Regardless of the numbers, there are so many categories that this game has taken multiple steps backward, and with the dev time that was given and this being 2018 while there are much older games out there with better features that we still somehow cant incorporate to this day even though the fans/core base has been begging every game is beyond ludicrous.

      The entire game is inconsistent, its literally rock em sock em robots.... There is like what? 10 rocks on avg per fight? Every single video that is being posted on forums that doesn't end in 1st round features 10+ rocks/stumbles over and over and over again, especially if both fighters are tired.

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      • Notorious752
        Rookie
        • Nov 2017
        • 69

        #4
        Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

        Don't stress bcelts, there will be more than just this guy having a tantrum. Just move on and enjoy the game.

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        • HypeRNT
          Rookie
          • Apr 2016
          • 368

          #5
          Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

          Originally posted by Notorious752
          Don't stress bcelts, there will be more than just this guy having a tantrum. Just move on and enjoy the game.

          Sent from my Pixel using Operation Sports mobile app
          Not sure why u think im having a tantrum, just because i dont kiss the devs a$$ every post? Im actually very calm, speaking my mind, you know, free speech and to have an opinion isnt having a tantrum.

          Like i said, i think my points are fair and not made up, i think there have been too many categories that we gone back and too little categories that improved.

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          • Serengeti1
            MVP
            • Mar 2016
            • 1720

            #6
            Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

            This dude is probably going to get burnt at the stake but I can't fault him for his perspective. There are a lot of things wrong with the game.

            There are steps in the right direction but there's a lot of tuning and patches needed to get this game in a better place imo. I just hope the devs are willing. I like the game and it's fun but I'm not content with the product we currently have.

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            • Notorious752
              Rookie
              • Nov 2017
              • 69

              #7
              Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

              Ironically, that is my opinion. Just like your OP is your opinion. Now please, continue with the rest of the forum users that are replying and have a friendly discussion.

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              • RetractedMonkey
                MVP
                • Dec 2017
                • 1624

                #8
                Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                When will these dudes just go back already?


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                • MysticJack541
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 253

                  #9
                  Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                  I'm not one to call out devs, or say people should be punished, but I do agree it's super disheartining to see basic things missing from the game when the blueprint has been out for quite some time.
                  I hope out of all the criticism we can get a fully complete bad*ss EA UFC 4.

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                  • UFCFreak1220
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 247

                    #10
                    Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                    Originally posted by MysticJack541
                    I'm not one to call out devs, or say people should be punished, but I do agree it's super disheartining to see basic things missing from the game when the blueprint has been out for quite some time.
                    I hope out of all the criticism we can get a fully complete bad*ss EA UFC 4.

                    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk
                    Super bad sign to already be talking about UFC 4 game been out for a week now and already looking forward to that, sheeeessssh I can’t wait for the first patch that’s all

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                    • Phillyboi207
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 3159

                      #11
                      Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                      Anyone that has played the other games should know to have faith in the Dev team.

                      EA UFC 1 and 3 improved sooo much because of patches it isnt funny.

                      There are some glaring issues but i def believe in the devs

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                      • gbmbjj
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 400

                        #12
                        Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                        Originally posted by UFCFreak1220
                        Super bad sign to already be talking about UFC 4 game been out for a week now and already looking forward to that, sheeeessssh I can’t wait for the first patch that’s all
                        Yeah, I never understood that either....when people use the "well let's wait till (insert next installment here), that'll fix everything."

                        Because not too long ago, when UFC 2 was frustrating the hell out of everyone, the line was, "well, let's wait till UFC 3, that'll fix everything."

                        .....and here we are. :/

                        Either way, a few essential patches and I think this game will suffice; myself personally, I've had some fun online matches and whatnot.

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                        • chia
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 1090

                          #13
                          Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                          Originally posted by MysticJack541
                          I hope out of all the criticism we can get a fully complete bad*ss EA UFC 4.
                          This is probably the worst possible perspective you can have regarding a game that has been out for a week after a nearly 2 year gap from the release of the last one.

                          There are features of the game that are a pretty big problem right now that can be fixed via patches and tuner updates so that's good and all but there is an overall design direction of the game that was pursued and is lacking and cannot be patched out.
                          ilovejiujitsu

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                          • Yaari
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 1496

                            #14
                            Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                            Eh, I would not say poorly thought out. I don't agree with some of the decisions they took though. UT is one of them. Licensed fighters is not something that will make me enjoy the mode more.

                            I don't like the stamina system either. I definitely think the key thing should be, that you pay for your striking output, regardless of whether the strike lands or misses (be it different numbers.

                            That said this is a forum where everyone has their own opinion, and while I think it is reasonable to take some major guidelines of what is being asked in a community, and roll with it, we don't actually design this game. It's their choice to decide what to do with the feedback, and it is your decision as to whether you like what they did with the game or not. If you did not, then you should not have bought it. I think the beta told a complete story.

                            And seriously, **** this **** though.
                            punishments given out to the people who simply failed to understand their community and core base of supporters
                            "Boohoo, you did not make the game EXACTLY what I asked for. You deserve to be punished for it. Up on the naughty step!"

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                            • MysticJack541
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 253

                              #15
                              Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

                              Originally posted by chia
                              This is probably the worst possible perspective you can have regarding a game that has been out for a week after a nearly 2 year gap from the release of the last one.

                              There are features of the game that are a pretty big problem right now that can be fixed via patches and tuner updates so that's good and all but there is an overall design direction of the game that was pursued and is lacking and cannot be patched out.
                              I'm talking more about things that can't be patched in. Things like a better takedown system (more takedown animations). More GnP animations, better posture system, seated cage position. Just core mechanics and improvements, and I doubt that stuff will be patched in. That being said, of course things will be patched and the game will improve over time.

                              Edit: And a completley rehauled clinch system.

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                              Last edited by MysticJack541; 02-09-2018, 09:33 AM.

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