Dominick Cruz jab issues

[The Relaxed Guy]

When you throw Cruz's step forward jab, you can't chain any strikes off it aside from the straight. His straight punch has the same problem; you can't chain and combos off it.

This is a problem because stepping in with a jab or straight is one of the primary entries into striking combinations. I'd argue it's essential for online play; you can't just come in throwing hooks or kicks without setting them up. I mean, every fighter in the game can move forward with a jab or straight, then chain into a basic combination. Except Dominick Cruz.

Am I missing something? How are people dealing with this... are we supposed to just not enter combos with jabs or straights?

Edit: I know his stationary jab and straight chain into combos, but isn't it kind of counterintuitive to throw stationary combos while using Dominick Cruz? Why is the fighter with the best footwork and movement in the game, the only fighter in the game who can't move forward while throwing generic boxing combos?

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[Sivo]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

u can combo of his jab u just cant combo off the moving jab. If u move forward while using jab/straight u cant combo, if u don't press forward while throwing jab/straight u can combo. Atleast that is my understanding of his signature jab/straight

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

There's a ducking hook that combos off of one of them.

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[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

I thiiiiink you can load up the ducking roundhouse off his unique 1-2.

I might have done it from idle though, and thus off a normal 1-2.

But yeah, Dom feels like a one of those characters from a arcade game that's like, super hard to use compared to the regular fighters but really effective when you use him right, if that makes sense, I really like the way they did Dom.

^ that's not a dig or me trying to say the game is arcadey, just what he reminds me of.

[The Relaxed Guy]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

There's a ducking hook that combos off of one of them.

Ahh okay, so it's just very limited what can be chained off his forward jab/straight. What was the intent/goal behind this?


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[johnmangala]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

You can't double up the Cruz sig jab. I have sorta comboed off them before but there is slight delay.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

It's faster than the regular advancing jab and has evasive properties. I have mixed feelings about Cruz not being able to use a normal advancing jab from kicking range, but I admit it kinda forces people to fight more like him, which is kind of a good thing.

[The Relaxed Guy]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

It's faster than the regular advancing jab and has evasive properties. I have mixed feelings about Cruz not being able to use a normal advancing jab from kicking range, but I admit it kinda forces people to fight more like him, which is kind of a good thing.

Appreciate the response sir. This is the info I'm looking for. So from what I can gather, it's faster and has evasive properties.

Can I ask what the ideal usage of Cruz is intended to be? Perhaps you could give me a play by play, or example of a striking sequence that "proper use" of Dominick Cruz would look like? I'm trying to understand how his jab and straight are intended to be incorporated into his game.

I'm disappointed that I'm unable to just flow around and use Cruz; the new movement system is perfect for using him realistically. If I have to use him differently than everyone else on the roster, so be it, I'll take the time to learn it. I just need a little direction here. Because as of now, my understanding is that the competitive meta necessitates advancing jabs and straights.




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[Sivo]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

i believe someone said cruz looked like a bizare goblin while fighting someone else will by able to explain better. My basic view is lots of jab/straight coming into range and out of range. Lots of moevment with being as unpredictable as possible and mixing in takedowns. Someone with a better understanding of fighting will give a much better descripiton. My guess is u will have to be a counter striker and confuse the hell out of opponents by hitting them whenever u get a chance and just try and mess p their rythm with strikes and takedowns

[WatchMeDrive]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

I'd also like to know the best way to use Cruz's unique jab and straight. The standup seems to be predicated on combos, so how should Cruz's strikes be used effectively if they cannot be combo-ed together?

[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

I'd also like to know the best way to use Cruz's unique jab and straight. The standup seems to be predicated on combos, so how should Cruz's strikes be used effectively if they cannot be combo-ed together?

You can combo the 2 and a looping hook off Doms unique jab.

Otherwise, you can setup combos normally from the idle, retreating or side stepping jabs.

I use the poke to get a reaction and setup a counter usually, or chain it into one of the unique sways he has, you can chain hooks off the side step he has and they're deadly, or use his Sig sway to avoid shots from one side.

I dunno if that's the best way to use him. But it works for me.

Edit: Oh, and that poke can be shot off reactively to cancel body kicks, I just caught Dodson with a few in a Pro AI match as he was coming in. Normally we tag eachother when I try that with the normal advancing jab, its probably because Dom doesn't actually advance forward off his jab. Which can be used to your advantage.

You can also fient the 2 to do his unique sway.

[Thetruth9012]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

I dont know it looks like its too hard too pull off this moves online.

His movement should be automatic i think.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

I used him in a ranked match last night and he felt very awkward to use due to all the jumping in and looping punches. It was a fun fight, though. I liked how different he felt from everyone else, but I doubt I'd use him much unless I could figure out how to do so effectively. I just wanted to sit on my punches and couldn't with him. They did a good job of trying to emulate his style.

[Papadoc60]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

It's faster than the regular advancing jab and has evasive properties. I have mixed feelings about Cruz not being able to use a normal advancing jab from kicking range, but I admit it kinda forces people to fight more like him, which is kind of a good thing.

I would argue that it forces you to play the opposite of Cruz. You kind of have to pressure people to the cage and use his footwork, when you have them against the cage you can unleash your stationary combos without worrying about the forward jab bothering you. It's hard to play at distance and dodge strikes because you can't really jab your way in and combo off of it in my opinion, just the way I see it.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Dominick Cruz jab issues

I would argue that it forces you to play the opposite of Cruz. You kind of have to pressure people to the cage and use his footwork, when you have them against the cage you can unleash your stationary combos without worrying about the forward jab bothering you. It's hard to play at distance and dodge strikes because you can't really jab your way in and combo off of it in my opinion, just the way I see it.

It was hard for me to string together anything. I just chalked it up to him being awkward and my unfamiliarity using him, but that makes sense.