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  • xFINISHxHIMx
    Banned
    • Aug 2017
    • 747

    #1

    Quick question...

    Is there a ref stand up for full guard post patch?

    Cause my opponent took me down to FG and LnPd me, I reversed it and took his back... then ref forces ME to stand up and fight in such a dominant position? I punched him, making him pay for taking me down and the ref stand us up? Lol that can't be real.
  • Gion
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 490

    #2
    Re: Quick question...

    Ive gotten a rather quick stand up for trying to GSP someone in full guard just last night

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    • xFINISHxHIMx
      Banned
      • Aug 2017
      • 747

      #3
      Re: Quick question...

      Alright then it's all good I was just perplexed how fast the ref stood us up in such a dominant position.

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      • Trillz
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1369

        #4
        Re: Quick question...

        Originally posted by xFINISHxHIMx
        Alright then it's all good I was just perplexed how fast the ref stood us up in such a dominant position.
        full guard isnt a dominant position its a position that gets stand ups irl often.
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        • xFINISHxHIMx
          Banned
          • Aug 2017
          • 747

          #5
          Re: Quick question...

          Originally posted by Trillz
          full guard isnt a dominant position its a position that gets stand ups irl often.
          I was talking about my back position m8

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          • dfab14
            Rookie
            • Jun 2016
            • 229

            #6
            Re: Quick question...

            I think they stand you up from backsitting too soon as well. shouldn't be at all imo but I'm sure others will disagree

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            • xFINISHxHIMx
              Banned
              • Aug 2017
              • 747

              #7
              Re: Quick question...

              Originally posted by dfab14
              I think they stand you up from backsitting too soon as well. shouldn't be at all imo but I'm sure others will disagree

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              I was talking about the back sitting position and it is too soon indeed. There should be no stand up at all in that position(if I'm active) no ref would ever stand you up in that position only an insane one. It's only one transition away from taking mount. I was perplexed after the stand up.

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              • dfab14
                Rookie
                • Jun 2016
                • 229

                #8
                Re: Quick question...

                I had a stand up last night just as I reversed his dom full guard to my dom full guard and was stood up immediately but I think the ref was getting ready to stand us up right before I hit the reversal so it may have still triggered the stand up

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                • murkr
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 58

                  #9
                  Re: Quick question...

                  Originally posted by xFINISHxHIMx
                  I was talking about the back sitting position and it is too soon indeed. There should be no stand up at all in that position(if I'm active) no ref would ever stand you up in that position only an insane one. It's only one transition away from taking mount. I was perplexed after the stand up.
                  I agree it happened to me too and it should never happen from that position

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                  • MacGowan
                    Sassy
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 1681

                    #10
                    Re: Quick question...

                    Plenty fighters have been stood up from full guard

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                    • ROCKROMAN79
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Re: Quick question...

                      So take the mount or try choke, because in back sitting you cant do any serious damage, its pretty much same like laying in full guard top position.so do something.

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                      • murkr
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Re: Quick question...

                        Originally posted by ROCKROMAN79
                        So take the mount or try choke, because in back sitting you cant do any serious damage, its pretty much same like laying in full guard top position.so do something.
                        It’s actually nothing like that . U have someone’s back lol it’s a dangerous position and should never be stood up .

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                        • The Relaxed Guy
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 211

                          #13
                          Re: Quick question...

                          I hate MMA stand ups in general, both in real life and the videogame. Like why is it OK to just make fighters stand up and start striking? Imagine if a fighter was being real elusive and boring on the feet, and the ref just made the fighters go to the ground. That would be crazy, you can't just move them to the ground. It's the same with stand ups to me. You can't just move them back to striking.

                          Way I see it, if one of the fighters doesn't like the position they're fighting from, they can change it themselves. If they're incapable of doing so, then they don't deserve to win.

                          Same with the "fans". If they don't like the position the fighters are fighting from, they can go watch another sport.

                          It's like if Mayweather was being real defensive in boxing, and the ref made him back up to the ropes so his opponent can wail on him. You can't just artificially adjust a fight as punishment for "inactivity".

                          If you can compete against a professionally trained fighter, and win while being "inactive", then perhaps your opponent deserves to lose. It's like on the videogame, I get a message "you got no standup, you literally didn't do anything the whole fight". I just respond "so you lost to a guy with no stand up, who didn't do anything the whole fight?"


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                          • The Relaxed Guy
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 211

                            #14
                            Re: Quick question...

                            But on topic, stand ups are inherently flawed on this game from sprawl position. If you end up in top sprawl position, you get a brief window to safely transition. After that window passes, the bottom guy gets full GA without doing anything, so the top guy can't do anything but punch. So all the bottom guy has to do is just sit there and wait for a standup and the guy on top can't do anything about it.

                            Stand ups are harsh in general now (stand ups from back control? Wtf?), but sprawl is the worst because you actually CAN'T be active from there.


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                            • murkr
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 58

                              #15
                              Re: Quick question...

                              I agree this new standup thing in the game is against against grapplers . Ppl just sit in sprawl waiting to easily block a transition to backside or till the ref stands it up now . It takes so much away from the ground game . Now u don’t even have to try and get out of a position by transitioning . All u have to do is sit hold block and wait for the ref to stand it up like this isn’t ok. There should be no stand ups in this game at all

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