Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

[BionicJoker]

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I’ve been playing The Show for years. I’ve always loved it, I spend most of my time in Franchise mode while dabbling in RTTS every so often. I never even think about playing Diamond Dynasty for a second.

Now ever since games started having these game types like Diamond Dynasty (i.e. Ultimate Team) it’s never intrigued me. I tried it out at first, understood the concept, played it for a while, didn’t care for it so I left it alone. Never quite understood the popularity of it.

Now aside from these kind of game modes being such obvious cash grabs, are they really being so well received by fans of the game to let your main modes like RTTS and Franchise go by the waist side? Or even to the point now where the official way of playing tournament style is with teams formed in this game mode?

Now yes, this is sorta stemming from the announcement today of the “revamping” of Franchise mode, which turned out to be nothing more than simulating to certain points of the season and changing a couple of screens in the user interface.
Basically showing that they did absolutely nothing to the mode itself, while it being glaringly obvious they invested all their time to trying to beef up Diamond Dynasty.

It’s not just The Show either. Madden has even forgotten that Franchise and My Player are a thing and only focused on Ultimate Team and the horrendous Telltale-esque story mode. It just seems that developers that focus on these game types will let their quality of other modes suffer just for a few extra bucks, and I absolutely think it’s the worst business for game developers to practice.

[Dolenz]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

Now aside from these kind of game modes being such obvious cash grabs, are they really being so well received by fans of the game to let your main modes like RTTS and Franchise go by the waist side? Or even to the point now where the official way of playing tournament style is with teams formed in this game mode?

Yes, they are received well. If you go to other forums for the game they are a all pretty much focused on DD. The fan base here being so Franchise focused is the anomaly.


I have not seen them let RTTS go by the wayside. Like them or Hate them, RTTS has gotten pretty substantial updates that last couple of years. This years changes are pretty huge.

[underdog13]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

go to r/mlbtheshow on reddit, all they talk about is DD.

[jb12780]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

Yes.


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[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I was pretty much in the same boat as the OP when it came to card-collecting modes. I didn't like Ultimate Team in Madden...it was actually Diamond Dynasty that began to turn me on to them.

I really like the Risk-style Conquest mode, especially. You don't play others online - as we all know, online has been a struggle for The Show for years. And being a bit of a board game geek, I liked the format.

Collecting baseball cards has been something I enjoyed as a kid, and it translates really well to DD. DD also allows for a bit of creation, in the way of your team's uniforms. So it scratches that itch, too.

[SoxFan01605]

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Look at streams/channels for the 3 major sports games. Its MUT, DD, etc and MyCareer, RTTS.

That's not to say franchise mode can't be improved to be more popular, but the quick and focused nature of these other modes are not only easy and fun for a lot of people to play, but for people to follow, share, etc...which is the current trend in gaming.

[Rocket32]

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Of course, otherwise modes like DD and UT wouldn’t have become the main focus by far in every sports game except NBA2K. Modes like DD and UT getting most of the attention isn’t a coincidence.

[WhiteBunny]

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The fans love DD like modes. Not fans of baseball, probably. Just check the sub-reddit of The Show in the last two years, you will struggle to find a single thread in which players talk about baseball stuff. It's all about diamonds, cards and trash talk. These are the players which SDS try to make happy now. For me, it's a middle finger to the most loyal and dedicated fanbase. But you know, opinions.

[BigOscar]

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I think one of the biggest factors is that they keep getting constantly updated along with the real baseball season, so it keeps players invested and interested as things keep changing. So it connects people watching real baseball to people playing The Show better than any other mode. It's a lot like fantasy baseball in that respect

[eric7064]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

Here is the way I look at it.

Everyone who buys the show at minimum spends $60 dollars on the game.

Any dollar spent after that on stubs to buy packs, that customer becomes more valuable then the standard version $60 dollar guy.

Now, look at all the streamers that buy hundreds, to thousands dollars worth of packs. Sports game's hardly ever used to have 3-4 different versions released. Now, every sports game has multiple versions, all centered on making more money from the card modes.

Even my buddies, would spend $20+ dollars on packs, even though they hardly touched DD, and mainly played OF. I see the addicting aspect to it.

[ElroyJetson]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

Here is the way I look at it.



Everyone who buys the show at minimum spends $60 dollars on the game.



Any dollar spent after that on stubs to buy packs, that customer becomes more valuable then the standard version $60 dollar guy.



Now, look at all the streamers that buy hundreds, to thousands dollars worth of packs. Sports game's hardly ever used to have 3-4 different versions released. Now, every sports game has multiple versions, all centered on making more money from the card modes.



Even my buddies, would spend $20+ dollars on packs, even though they hardly touched DD, and mainly played OF. I see the addicting aspect to it.

Ties it all back to the feeling we got as kids opening card packs ... it is addicting you’re so correct .



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[Dolenz]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

The fans love DD like modes. Not fans of baseball, probably.

That seems like a vast overgeneralization that has no real proof to it.


It's so easy for so many to dismiss those who don't play the game the same way they do.

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Are modes like Diamond Dynasty legitimately well received by fans?

I think that the answer is obviously yes. SCEA wouldn't spend as much time investing in this if it wasn't wildly popular.

[oilersfan99]

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I am so sick of seeing that garbage that people who play these modes are not fans of baseball but fans of the game. It's such a stupid statement to make. One, there is zero basis on it whatsoever. Most of the people I know who have the show care about base all and have played it at very high levels, a couple played minor league baseball. Two, just because you are on a chat site for diamond dynasty and all you talk about is card collecting, well.... duh. That's what the mode is about.

You know what people who play diamond dynasty complain about? Things that happen in the game that are unrealistic when it comes to the game of baseball. Messed up throws, horrible tagging and sliding and a whole lot of other issues that are in the day to day of playing baseball. Stop painting everyone with the same brush. I could just as easily say that the people that play franchise only care about the management or prices of things and don't play real baseball.

Give me a break.

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[Dolenz]

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You know what people who play diamond dynasty complain about? Things that happen in the game that are unrealistic when it comes to the game of baseball. Messed up throws, horrible tagging and sliding and a whole lot of other issues that are in the day to day of playing baseball.

That a good point. DD may be the reason we got improvements to the tagging system this year.