BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

[BYU 14]

These are only tested on quick count and designed with the more “seasoned” gamer in mind, who may not have the stick skills of yore. The version below is the “final” (Barring patch disruption) update as of 4/9/18 and will be uploaded into the vault under BYU 14’s Old guy QC Sliders V 4.

I am sticking with HOF pitching and All-Star hitting, though I had some fair games on HOF hitting, just did not see the variety I am seeing on All-Star. But for those that are a bit better on the stick and play QC’s the HOF adjustments should provide that.

As always it is about experience for me and these give me the in game experience I am looking for with quick counts. I have had games with these when I have scored 10+ and been shut out, which I think is an indicator of how much more pitch confidence plays into the game this year and can help, or hurt you both hitting and pitching. I have thrown shutouts and had Sonny Gray get shelled for 7 runs in less than 4 innings. Thanks for giving these a try if you play QC and as always feedback is welcome.

Batting & Baserunning
Hitting Difficulty – All-Star or HOF (HOF in red)
Hitting Interface – Directional timed
Input Type - Buttons
Analog Type – N/A
Plate Coverge Indicator - Off
PCI Appearance – N/A
Hitting View – Strike Zone 3 (Custom to the back lines of the batters box)
In-Play View Offense - Medium
Ball Trail – Off
Guess Pitch - Off
Baserunning Decisions – Assist
Sliding Decisions – Assist
Runner windows – On

Pitching
Pitching Difficulty - HOF
Pitching Interface - Classic
Pitch Feedback - Off
Pitching View – Broadcast (Custom to center above Pitchers head)
Pitching Ball Marker – Off
Pitch Confidence – On
API – On (Always go with the pitch called and location)

Fielding
Throwing Interface - Buttons
Throwing Meter - Off
Throwing Difficulty – N/A
Fielding Decision - Auto
Throwing Decision - Off
In-Play View - Medium
Throw Cancelling - Off
One Button Dive/Jump – Off
Defensive Shift - Auto

General
Strike Zone - Off
Hot Zones – Off
Warm Up Relievers – On
Balks - Off
Dynamic Difficulty Updates - Progress
Tutorial Tips – Off
Post Game Auto Save – Off
Umpire Balls and Strikes – Personalized
Umpire close Plays – On
Check Swing Appeals – On
Swing Pitch Info – Off
Injuries – On
Ejections – On
Vibration – Off (Makes it more challenging to develop a feel for your staff)
Other options (Scorebar, Game Log, etc) User preference



Updated 06/23/18 - Changed CPU solid hits to 3
Sliders (HOF Hitting for Human in Red)
Minor update 4/16 - Moved Fielder speed to 3
Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity - 5
Human Contact – 5
Human Power – 5
Human Timing – 4 / 5
Human Foul Frequency – 3 / 4
Human Solid Hits - 4
Human Starter Stamina - 6
Human Reliever Stamina - 4
Human Pitch Control - 4
Human Pitcher Consistency - 5
CPU Contact – 6 (Brings K’s into a more realistic zone)
CPU Power - 5
CPU Timing - 4
CPU Foul Frequency - 3
CPU Solid Hits - 3 (updated 06/23/18)
CPU Starter Stamina - 6
CPU Reliever Stamina - 4
CPU Pitcher Control - 5 (Updated 5/10/18)
CPU Pitcher Consistency – 5 / 4
CPU Strike Frequency – N/A (Quick Counts, I put it at 0)
CPU Manager Hook - 5
CPU Pickoffs - 5
Fastball Pitch Speed – 7 / 5 (User Preference)
Offspeed Pitch Speed – 7 / 5 (User Preference)
Fielding Errors Infield - 5
Fielding Errors Outfield - 5
Throwing Errors Infield - 5
Throwing Errors Outfield - 5
Fielder Run Speed – 3 (-1)
Fielder Reaction - 4
Fielder Arm Strength Infield - 5
Fielder Arm Strength Outfield - 5
Baserunner Speed - 4
Baserunner Steal Ability - 5
Baserunner Steal Frequency - 5
Wind - 5
Injury Frequency - 6
Trade Frequency - 5

[volsman]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

Will try these out tonight when I get home. Only problem I’m seeing so far with quick counts is never really getting into good hitters counts. Crazy example was in my fantasy draft franchise over the course of 3 game Cody Bellinger had two strikes against him in 8 out of 11 at bats. Lol

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

Will try these out tonight when I get home. Only problem I’m seeing so far with quick counts is never really getting into good hitters counts. Crazy example was in my fantasy draft franchise over the course of 3 game Cody Bellinger had two strikes against him in 8 out of 11 at bats. Lol

I don't know if it is a placebo, or just dumb luck, but I set strike frequency at 0 and get good amount of 1-1 and 2-1 counts. Dropping the pitcher control and consistency seem to help too, even in unfavorable counts as most pitchers will waste the first pitch when you get 2 strikes. I have worked back from 0-2 counts a few ties to draw walks, which is unheard of for my inpatient a$$ I am currently fanning an average of about 6-7 times a game. A low of 3 and a high of 12 so far.

[volsman]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

Anybody had a chance to play a game or two with these yet? Really interested in how they play but I could not get real life done in time tonight to enjoy some show time

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

Anybody had a chance to play a game or two with these yet? Really interested in how they play but I could not get real life done in time tonight to enjoy some show time

I will post some results later

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

First two games of the opening series against the Jays were fairly "normal" including a complete game shutout by Severino in game 2. This one was wild though as Tanaka just didn't have it and 3 errors on the Yankee infield didn't help him, but we came back at the end.


Yankees 11-14-3
Blue Jays 9-9-0


2B - Yanks 1, blue Jays 3
HR - Yanks 3, Blue Jays 2 (Sanchez, Andujar and Hicks, with Sanchez bouncing his off the foul pole)
BB - Yanks 7, Blue Jays 3 (Had a total of 6 my first two games, but will watch this)
K - Yanks 5, Blue Jays 12 (Mainly from the Yankees pen and the lowest I have gotten in 3 games in this franchise, got 3 once in testing)


If I move anything right away I may move pitch speed to 7/7, also all errors were throws that pulled Bird off the bag, 2 by Andujar. This one was an offensive outlier as mentioned, but if this continues I will test both pitch speed and human timing.

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

First game with 1.5 and the pitch speed uptick is noticeable, but I left it at 6/6 and liked the results. Got around on a couple of fastballs with Judge on favorable counts, but Strikeouts were what I would expect/want from the Yankees (11). Led this one 6-0 going into the 6th, when Montgomery fell apart and the Jays got a 5 spot. They later tied it, then Judge's second blast gave the Yanks the final margin of victory. I thought it would be hard to top 17, but this years game has even more in game variety, absolutely gorgeous. Closed it with a 101 MPH elevated fastball from Chapman to Martin, strike 3!


Yankees 8-13-0
Blue Jays 6-10-1
2B - Yanks 2, Jays 3
HR - Yanks 2, Jays 1
BB - Yanks 4, Jays 6 (Montgomery really lost it after giving up a bomb to Donaldson and why I like human control on 3, no room for error)
K - Yanks 11, Jays 9

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

Original post updated
V2 Updates 3/31/18 in red - Changed human timing to 4 to make this a more critical piece of hitting and subsequent testing is showing an average of just about 2 hits less per game, which is more in line with where it should be, as well as 1-2 more human strikeouts a game.


Fielder and runner speed was tricky as dropping just 1 caused issues with the other (runners not being aggressive enough on the base paths was big when I only dropped base runner speed, so settle with both at 4 and things are more balanced, without that 'hyper' speed feeling.

[Mephiskapheles]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

These look good, I’ll give them a shot. I’m a fan of only slight changes so as to not throw everything off. I think sometimes we change so much we mistakenly throw other things out of balance. Speed and stamina can absolutely be nailed down.


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[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

First 3 games in franchise mode after testing V2. I am comfortable with the results and more important the game play so signing off on these for the OSFM rosters, while continuing to track results as play goes one and through any subsequent patches. V2 is uploaded to the vault


Rays 5-12-0 2B-1, 3B-1, HR-1. BB-3, K-12
Yankees 4-9-0 2B-1, HR-1, BB-3, K-7


Rays 3-6-0 2B-2, HR-1, BB-6, K-13
Yankees 2-9-0 BB-3, K-7 (First game no extra base hits)


Orioles 3-4-1 2B-1, HR-1, BB-3, K-6 (Severino made 1 mistake)
Yankees 4-8-1 2B-3, HR-2, BB-2, K-10

[volsman]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

Thanks. I will plug these in tonight. You seem to be the only one with quick counts. Surprisly since it is so convenient to be able to get through a few games

[BYU 14]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

Started new franchise with the OSFM Rosters with current sliders. First 3 games, a nice mix, though my bats went quiet the first 2.


Yanks 0-6-0 BB-1, K-5
Jays 2-6-0 HR-1, BB-1, K-13
Nice duel between Severino and Stroman, Donaldson 2 run HR won it


Yanks 1-4-0 BB-3, K-9
Jays 7-10-1 2B-1, HR-3, BB-2, K-10
Tanaka fell apart, was worried with no extra base hits through two


Yanks 6-13-0 2B-4, HR-3, BB-6, K-9
Jays 3-5-0 2B-1, HR-1, BB-2, K-7
The quality of the opposing pitcher was really apparent in this one, 1 of the HR's was an inside the parker by Gardner after the CF dove and misses a sinking liner.


One note on quick counts, I think things would be much easier with this set if I was not using quick counts. I am seeing a good mix and it forces you to adapt, especially on the bump. I have been force to leave a few balls over the plate more than I would have liked and have paid more than once. Same at the plate, against Stroman I had unfavorable counts a bunch and it forced me to be defensive and resulted in some weak contact with timing dropped a notch. Sticking with these still and will re-evaluate once I get a sample size of 15 games in the new franchise with OSFM rosters.


Human hit percentages 2B-17%, HR-13%, K-7.6 PG, BB-3.7 PG
CPU hit percentages 2B-9%, HR-24%, K-10 PG, BB-1.7 PG
These are obviously not reliable for just 3 games, but the BB and HR gives a clue that with quick counts I have to not give in on 3-1, 3-2 so much and not be afraid to give up a couple of more BB. Control on 3 already makes it more likely the human will miss when working sides and levels, unfortunately I am missing over the plate a lot in these 3 games, so that I expect that will even out.

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

I started up a Giants franchise. Let’s see if I can finish this season. Last year, I finished the whole season every pitch every game twice. One with the Pirates and lost in the wild card game. And the next with the Astros and won the World Series against the Dodgers. Kinda cool how it ended up being like in real life. I went through the offseason and played a couple in the next season but I stopped cause I knew the new game would be coming out.

First game with the Giants we faced Kershaw and the Giants. Bumgarner gave up 4 runs in the 1st inning. Kershaw was dealing until the 6th inning and the wheels fell off and I scored 4 runs to go ahead with a 5-4 lead. Gave up a tying homer in the 8th and got a RBI base hit in the 9th to go up and win 6-5.

Giants 6 10 0 2B-3, HR-1, BB-2, K-5
Dodgers 5 10 1 2B-1, 3B-1, HR-3, BB-0, K-9

I turned down human timing to 1 to see if I can strike out more.

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

2nd game there was no pitching at all.

Giants 14 15 0 - 2B-4, 3B-1, BB-8, K-3
Dodgers 9 14 0 - 2B-4, HR-2, BB-4, K-9

[bryanm1982]

Re: BYU 14's "Old Guy" Quick Count Sliders for the Show 18

3rd game was a pitcher’s duel. I am going to try to lower human solid hits to 4 to see how that goes. I’m getting too many hits but not HR so I will test it.

Giants 3 11 0 - 2B-1, BB-4, K-4
Dodgers 1 3 0 - 2B-2, BB-5, K-11