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  • UFCBlackbelt
    MVP
    • Jan 2018
    • 1067

    #1

    The spinning kick

    Really dont like how fast this comes out, you have guys like SP_the_ghost who's entire style revolves around throwing max holloway's insanely fast spinning kicks, this needs a reduction
  • Freshly Baked Gregg
    Pro
    • Jan 2018
    • 605

    #2
    Re: The spinning kick

    It’s slow enough to block in time. It might not be realistic, but it’s balanced. You don’t want people pull countering spinning heel kicks constantly.


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    • UFCBlackbelt
      MVP
      • Jan 2018
      • 1067

      #3
      Re: The spinning kick

      Originally posted by Freshly Baked Gregg
      It’s slow enough to block in time. It might not be realistic, but it’s balanced. You don’t want people pull countering spinning heel kicks constantly.


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      If you combine it with the jab-leg kick it becomes a guessing game, it needs to be nerfed, nobody throws spinning kicks that fast except maybe barboza

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      • Freshly Baked Gregg
        Pro
        • Jan 2018
        • 605

        #4
        Re: The spinning kick

        Originally posted by UFCBlackbelt
        If you combine it with the jab-leg kick it becomes a guessing game, it needs to be nerfed, nobody throws spinning kicks that fast except maybe barboza


        I’ll have to try this. I’ll come back in a tad.


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        • Freshly Baked Gregg
          Pro
          • Jan 2018
          • 605

          #5
          Re: The spinning kick

          Sometimes it’s ultra fast, sometimes it’s at a good speed.


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          • AeroZeppelin27
            MVP
            • Nov 2017
            • 2287

            #6
            Re: The spinning kick

            I don't online much but I generally throw my spins nekked because I find they feel comically fast off a jab most of the time.

            I think they're fine naked though.

            With that said. I don't find them hard to avoid, if someone's spamming them on you, if you make them whiff a few they're going to be at a significant stamina disadvantage.
            Though that's probably easier said than done if they're spamming 1-low 1-spin and mixing it up, the kicks will disrupt your lunge.

            Though I've avoided them with the smaller backstep, too.

            Though I do use Yair/Wonderbreads Lead leg side kick - Spinning Heel kick combo like a moooootherf**Ker.

            Semi-unrelated but I freaking love landing the strafing or retreating variants of the spinning heel. Feels good.

            So cheeky.

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            • Phillyboi207
              Banned
              • Apr 2012
              • 3159

              #7
              Re: The spinning kick

              Originally posted by UFCBlackbelt
              Really dont like how fast this comes out, you have guys like SP_the_ghost who's entire style revolves around throwing max holloway's insanely fast spinning kicks, this needs a reduction
              Strike speed being combined is the issue

              Max has fast hands and kicks in game because of it

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              • AeroZeppelin27
                MVP
                • Nov 2017
                • 2287

                #8
                Re: The spinning kick

                Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                Strike speed being combined is the issue

                Max has fast hands and kicks in game because of it
                This is is probably the biggest reason for fighters/moves/combos feeling off in this game.

                Along with combined power.

                God I wish something could be done during the games life cycle...

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                • HereticFighter
                  Rookie
                  • May 2018
                  • 421

                  #9
                  Re: The spinning kick

                  the biggest issue i think is the combos. people throw extra strikes just so that the second strike will come out faster. The spinning kick is a great example of it. People don't throw it naked that often because of how slow it is alone. Many pawing jabs are thrown and then one of them has a second strike on it that is artificially sped up because a jab was thrown first. It feels very unrealistic and makes for huge shifts in speed between certain moves that just look way off.

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                  • FCB x Finlay
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 1293

                    #10
                    Re: The spinning kick

                    The kick itself is fine its just behind a jab its stupid fast.
                    Like most attacks tbh.

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                    • FriendlyJudoka
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 68

                      #11
                      Re: The spinning kick

                      This kind of a difficult issue. In real fighting, this kick can be quite difficult to see coming especially when thrown right after a jab or hook. In real life, when someone throws a jab or hook before the spinning heel kick, it disguises the motion. You can actually start doing the footwork for the kick at the same time you jab, so in a sense, the kick actually does come out quicker. The kick feels a lot quicker than it really is.

                      However, from our view on the side, the jab doesn't disguise the motion of the kick, so it loses some of its effectiveness. A slight speeding up seems reasonable to me to compensate.

                      I think it is very difficult in this game to replicate how deceptive this kick can be.

                      In fact, in my experience, it is easier to properly react to and block roundhouse kicks to the body than spinning heel kicks in real life.

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                      • Solid_Altair
                        EA Game Changer
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 2043

                        #12
                        Re: The spinning kick

                        It's mostly about how the frames on combos weren't tuned as systematically as for single strikes. Do you guys think this kick is too fast when thrown naked?

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                        • Evil97
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 1099

                          #13
                          Re: The spinning kick

                          Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                          It's mostly about how the frames on combos weren't tuned as systematically as for single strikes. Do you guys think this kick is too fast when thrown naked?
                          Wouldn't know. Who the hell throws it naked? That should tell you something right there.

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                          • FCB x Finlay
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 1293

                            #14
                            Re: The spinning kick

                            Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                            It's mostly about how the frames on combos weren't tuned as systematically as for single strikes. Do you guys think this kick is too fast when thrown naked?
                            Nope to slow naked, and far too quick behind a jab.
                            Much like most kicks.

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                            • bmlimo
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 1123

                              #15
                              Re: The spinning kick

                              Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                              Strike speed being combined is the issue

                              Max has fast hands and kicks in game because of it
                              4 Me this and footwork are the biggest issue in the striking game... this arcade system of extra speed... and can be a lot faster if the players press the button fast...

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