Can we talk about bigs in NBA 2k19?

[ImInThis]

Something has to be done, it's been going on too long where these kids Max out their centers and are good at doing everything.

Small undersized Centers are so underappreciated in this game it's ridiculous. I shouldn't feel the need to the be a clumsy 7'3 340lbs, but that seems to be the case.

Look at the NBA big men like Towns, Porzingis, Dwight, and Davis. All those dudes are 7' and no more than 250 and dominate the NBA. So why can't I make a regular sized center and do the same? A small 7' Hakeem Olajuwan would've been dominated in 2k's world.

2k really needs to magnify the disadvantages with size. It really needs to be addressed because all I do is play big man in Pro Am

[howardphillips214]

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Something has to be done, it's been going on too long where these kids Max out their centers and are good at doing everything.

Small undersized Centers are so underappreciated in this game it's ridiculous. I shouldn't feel the need to the be a clumsy 7'3 340lbs, but that seems to be the case.

Look at the NBA big men like Towns, Porzingis, Dwight, and Davis. All those dudes are 7' and no more than 250 and dominate the NBA. So why can't I make a regular sized center and do the same? A small 7' Hakeem Olajuwan would've been dominated in 2k's world.

2k really needs to magnify the disadvantages with size. It really needs to be addressed because all I do is play big man in Pro Am

This has been covered extensively in another thread. I told them what I'll tell you. 7' athletic is the best center hands down. I get all the contacts, even driving, and i can dominate my match up. I'm just too fast at the 5. My buddy has a 6'10 pure athletic with 70 something speed and HE'S not much faster than me at 63! That means my long legs just cover too much ground. Anyone shorter then me at the 5 gets dominated. I mean, straight brutalized. I'd you're taller than me and NOT rebounding first I'll destroy you on the glass because i can beat you to your spot. If I'm boxing you OUTSIDE the paint, you're not getting the board.

Only times i get dusted or flat out outplayed are when my other big is an AI. If I've got a GUARD boxing at the 4 i could run big at the 5 all day. It's when you DO kick me to the 4?!

All hell breaks loose. As dominant as i am at the 5 I'm tremendous at the 4. I'll be the whole team. I've had most of my 40 point games at the 4.

[dwayne12345]

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Just came in to point out that Porzingis is 7'3 and Joel Embiid, one of the most dominant Centers in the league, is 7'2...


Anthony Davis is a PF archetype which is why New Orleans brought in Omer Asik and then DeMarcus Cousins.


Also it seems like you are insinuating that in the real world a 7' Center is undersized. Do you mean in 2k a 7' Center seems undersized?

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Just came in to point out that Porzingis is 7'3 and Joel Embiid, one of the most dominant Centers in the league, is 7'2...


Anthony Davis is a PF archetype which is why New Orleans brought in Omer Asik and then DeMarcus Cousins.


Also it seems like you are insinuating that in the real world a 7' Center is undersized. Do you mean in 2k a 7' Center seems undersized?

But thabeet was 7’3. Embiid is 7’1 . Boban is 7’3 . Walter Tavares is 7’3 . Guys 7’3 usually barely crack rotation lol . Especially at today’s pace .

[howardphillips214]

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Yao Ming and Sean Bradley were both 7'5. Both had extremely short careers and neither were very nimble. Yao had a jumper, bradley played hands up defense and still blocked shots... Neither really left their feet ever. Even to rebound, they just were tall enough to put up stats. If either of them faced a Deandre Jordan or Andre Drummond they'd get slaughtered.

[YourHairlineTrash]

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Just came in to point out that Porzingis is 7'3 and Joel Embiid, one of the most dominant Centers in the league, is 7'2...


Anthony Davis is a PF archetype which is why New Orleans brought in Omer Asik and then DeMarcus Cousins.


Also it seems like you are insinuating that in the real world a 7' Center is undersized. Do you mean in 2k a 7' Center seems undersized?

Porzingis is 240 pounds and sacrifices strength, Embiid is 280 pounds and isn't very explosive getting off the ground, but 2k centers are 60-100 pounds heavier strong as the hulk and as explosive as the flash. Using outliers like Embiid and Porzingis doesn't make sense because both have weaknesses that can be exposed, which isn't the case for the 7'3 340 pound monsters in 2k. Also, the average height of an NBA center is right around 6'10, so you can name 2 guys and I can name Jordan, Cousins, Drummond, Jokic, Davis, Howard, Turner, Kanter, Capella, Towns, etc etc. all of these guys are under 6'10 without their shoes on, and under 7'0 with them on.

Anthony Davis plays center now, which is why they let DeMarcus walk and brought in 2 power forwards in Randle and Mirotic to play with him.

And undersized center would be Tristan Thompson sized, someone 6'9, you play a 6'9 center in 2k and your team is done. Imagine a Ben Wallace sized center trying to play in Pro-Am competitively, it would be a massacre. The problem is there's no balance in the game, strength rules and the speed difference isn't enough to make up for it because th difference in speed is never as pronounced as it should be. There should be a chess game when it comes to putting pro-am teams together that leads to team variation, some teams going small, some going big, some using a mix etc. But the animations ruin the speed differences where 340lbs guys can keep up with much faster guys by riding their hip.

[YourHairlineTrash]

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Also stop giving non shooting centers 57-63 ratings in threes, that is more than reliable enough to make 3 threes a game at a respectable rate if you get passes from gold or hof dimer. I shouldn't have to respect the shooting of a rebounding slasher, just like they shouldn't have to respect the range of my post scorer, but they do.

[howardphillips214]

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Also stop giving non shooting centers 57-63 ratings in threes, that is more than reliable enough to make 3 threes a game at a respectable rate if you get passes from gold or hof dimer. I shouldn't have to respect the shooting of a rebounding slasher, just like they shouldn't have to respect the range of my post scorer, but they do.

So, as a slasher... You want me to brick every shot that i take so you can sit directly under the basket and I'm completely ineffective?

That doesn't seem a little tilted in your favor? If I'm hitting with a 61 that means you need to play some defense.

The second you close out on me or start playing me tight I'm blowing past you and you better have help.

That's basketball. Don't blame me for knowing my shot.

[YourHairlineTrash]

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So, as a slasher... You want me to brick every shot that i take so you can sit directly under the basket and I'm completely ineffective?

That doesn't seem a little tilted in your favor? If I'm hitting with a 61 that means you need to play some defense.

The second you close out on me or start playing me tight I'm blowing past you and you better have help.

That's basketball. Don't blame me for knowing my shot.

LMAO, this is why the 2k community is so ridiculous "knowing my shot" like real life slashers or rebounders don't know their shot. You think Wade doesn't know his shot, or is 3 point shooting a real weakness of his that doesn't really need to be respected? I can't wait for DeAndre Jordan to go up to Carlisle like "Let me shoot some threes coach, I know my shot".


Yes, if you pick a slashing big man you should not be a threat from three, weaknesses exist, players aren't perfect...that's actual basketball. You think the Pistons are just holding Andre Drummond back from shooting threes, or he doesn't have a good enough chance of making them? I can go 3/4 from three with a post scorer just because I'm open and getting dimer passes, that is unacceptable because it turns a archetype that shouldn't be a threat from outside into a dual threat. Every archetype other than pure lockdown are capable of hitting threes at a decent rate, enough for them to be threats that can't be left open, that is not basketball at all.

That's the problem with this community, nobody wants their player to have any weaknesses at all, you picked a slasher, you shouldn't be a threat from three.

[lilteapot]

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So, as a slasher... You want me to brick every shot that i take so you can sit directly under the basket and I'm completely ineffective?

That doesn't seem a little tilted in your favor? If I'm hitting with a 61 that means you need to play some defense.

The second you close out on me or start playing me tight I'm blowing past you and you better have help.

That's basketball. Don't blame me for knowing my shot.

Well, pure athletic finishers should not be making threes. Name one PURE athletic finisher in the NBA's history that can do that. Shawn Kemp is athletic but he's not ONLY an athlete.

[Keith01]

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This has been covered extensively in another thread. I told them what I'll tell you. 7' athletic is the best center hands down. I get all the contacts, even driving, and i can dominate my match up. I'm just too fast at the 5. My buddy has a 6'10 pure athletic with 70 something speed and HE'S not much faster than me at 63! That means my long legs just cover too much ground. Anyone shorter then me at the 5 gets dominated. I mean, straight brutalized. I'd you're taller than me and NOT rebounding first I'll destroy you on the glass because i can beat you to your spot. If I'm boxing you OUTSIDE the paint, you're not getting the board.

Only times i get dusted or flat out outplayed are when my other big is an AI. If I've got a GUARD boxing at the 4 i could run big at the 5 all day. It's when you DO kick me to the 4?!

All hell breaks loose. As dominant as i am at the 5 I'm tremendous at the 4. I'll be the whole team. I've had most of my 40 point games at the 4.

My 7'3 340 lb Rebounding Athletic Finisher max everything would say otherwise. No one can out rebound me 1on1. Too big, too strong, too much inside positioning. Just like Shaq. You just haven't been playing vs decent rebounders.

[Keith01]

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Porzingis is 240 pounds and sacrifices strength, Embiid is 280 pounds and isn't very explosive getting off the ground, but 2k centers are 60-100 pounds heavier strong as the hulk and as explosive as the flash. Using outliers like Embiid and Porzingis doesn't make sense because both have weaknesses that can be exposed, which isn't the case for the 7'3 340 pound monsters in 2k. Also, the average height of an NBA center is right around 6'10, so you can name 2 guys and I can name Jordan, Cousins, Drummond, Jokic, Davis, Howard, Turner, Kanter, Capella, Towns, etc etc. all of these guys are under 6'10 without their shoes on, and under 7'0 with them on.

Anthony Davis plays center now, which is why they let DeMarcus walk and brought in 2 power forwards in Randle and Mirotic to play with him.

And undersized center would be Tristan Thompson sized, someone 6'9, you play a 6'9 center in 2k and your team is done. Imagine a Ben Wallace sized center trying to play in Pro-Am competitively, it would be a massacre. The problem is there's no balance in the game, strength rules and the speed difference isn't enough to make up for it because th difference in speed is never as pronounced as it should be. There should be a chess game when it comes to putting pro-am teams together that leads to team variation, some teams going small, some going big, some using a mix etc. But the animations ruin the speed differences where 340lbs guys can keep up with much faster guys by riding their hip.

Shhhhhh. Don't patch me bro

[Housh123]

Can we talk about bigs in NBA 2k19?

Yao Ming and Sean Bradley were both 7'5. Both had extremely short careers and neither were very nimble. Yao had a jumper, bradley played hands up defense and still blocked shots... Neither really left their feet ever. Even to rebound, they just were tall enough to put up stats. If either of them faced a Deandre Jordan or Andre Drummond they'd get slaughtered.

I gotta call you on this. Deandre barely scores as is you can’t tell me he’d do anything to prime Yao Ming. Dude puts his hands up on D and is basically 10 feet tall. What is Drummond or Jordan gonna do against that? Bigs just aren’t as skilled these days. Prime Yao would probably be right up there with Embiid and Cousins these days. His mid range jumper and hook shot would utterly destroy teams that like to trot out power forwards at the center like Golden State.


I’d pay to see the ownage Yao would hand Draymond Green





Bigs do need more work tho. Someone picking a 6’ 9” center should feel an immediate and effective difference when playing on that smaller center as opposed to playing on a 7’ 3” behemoth

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[Housh123]

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Also stop giving non shooting centers 57-63 ratings in threes, that is more than reliable enough to make 3 threes a game at a respectable rate if you get passes from gold or hof dimer. I shouldn't have to respect the shooting of a rebounding slasher, just like they shouldn't have to respect the range of my post scorer, but they do.

This has been a huge problem for 2 years imo. I can get on my pure rim protector right now, grab a teammate with gold dimer and splash probably 3/5 consistently as long as i wait until i get hot before i shoot. You should not have to respect that shot on a non shooting big at all. If Dwight Howard is at the 3 i guarantee you his man is all the way in the paint guarding the paint


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[Housh123]

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My 7'3 340 lb Rebounding Athletic Finisher max everything would say otherwise. No one can out rebound me 1on1. Too big, too strong, too much inside positioning. Just like Shaq. You just haven't been playing vs decent rebounders.

There’s some rebounders on this game that are just insane

The animations you get with gold and HOF hustle rebounder are insane. Then a lot of guys don’t know they can swim past the box out if you work hard enough. Iv probably played like 3 high rated rebounder builds who actually knew what they were doing. All 3 ate my lunch on the boards. Usually I’m good for 10 rebounds on my pure post against anybody but occasionally you get a rebounding god. I’m talking like 5 rebounds to my opponents 15 plus. You can have the board literally 98% in your hands and hustle rebounder will just snatch it from you on some BS. I’d highly recommend that build to any guys who just wanna be able to dunk and snag


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