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  • briz1046
    MVP
    • May 2013
    • 1017

    #1

    Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

    Interested to hear people's thoughts on this



    Personally I think this kind of approach would be a major improvement to the present scouting , and could be extended to Free agency when assessing potential free agents
    Last edited by briz1046; 07-14-2018, 09:38 AM.
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  • Cowboy008
    MVP
    • Mar 2012
    • 4574

    #2
    Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

    It would have been nice if Madden 19 had that kind of scouting system.

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    • Reed1417
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      • May 2012
      • 6121

      #3
      Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

      Madden's scouting system needs an overhaul big time! And I would love to see something like this in the game.

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      • briz1046
        MVP
        • May 2013
        • 1017

        #4
        Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

        I'm one of those guys who think scouting should be almost totally dependent on your scouting staff
        Excluding combine numbers etc , which should be available to everyone with no scouting required
        All other attributes on any player fully scouted should be visible instantly , not just the top 3 , however the accuracy ( or range of possibilities) should depend on your scouting staff
        The user could choose from a variety of scouts available , each with varying talent levels and specialities ( schools/ positions etc) and the accuracy or otherwise of the feedback would vary
        Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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        • Armor and Sword
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          • Sep 2010
          • 21794

          #5
          Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

          Head Coach 09 scouting, free agency,RFA and injury system is the model.

          EA did it on a game....lets go.


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          • Peroxide4
            Rookie
            • Jul 2018
            • 38

            #6
            Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
            Head Coach 09 scouting, free agency,RFA and injury system is the model.

            EA did it on a game....lets go.


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            Everything draft related but the player comparisons in HC 09 would be such a massive improvement.

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            • SyncereBlackout
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              • Aug 2014
              • 828

              #7
              Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

              So how long do we have to wait for this to come to madden. Can we borrow Devs like live did?

              I’d prefer scouts be regional than have an expertise in a position. Possibly both but if I had to choose regional over positional.


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              • mtmetcalfe
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 491

                #8
                Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                Ryan Moody did a video on this about a week ago and I was crushed to see these kind of systems at EA but not in Madden. This would be a big upgrade to what we have now.

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                • briz1046
                  MVP
                  • May 2013
                  • 1017

                  #9
                  Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                  Originally posted by SyncereBlackout
                  So how long do we have to wait for this to come to madden. Can we borrow Devs like live did?

                  I’d prefer scouts be regional than have an expertise in a position. Possibly both but if I had to choose regional over positional.


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                  Yes , I was assuming , but not actually stating outright , that the user would be required to hire a whole scouting staff , or at least a number of different scouts rather than just one selection , and these could be fired, replaced etc each year, ( you could even build in a scouting progression system based on experience and/ or success, but that's a pipe- dream for now )
                  Each scout would be responsible for a different position(s) and have specialities based on region/schools , or vice versa
                  Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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                  • R1zzo23
                    Cupcake Coach
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 5694

                    #10
                    Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                    This would be amazing, but he fact that there aren’t even coordinators in the game makes me hesitate to believe that this will be in the game by Madden 20. But, with NHL already featuring this scouting system, that does give me hope. The scouts could be all fictional making it much easier to incorporate into the game since the coordinators need to be licensed.

                    Fingers crossed I guess?


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                    • stinkubus
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1463

                      #11
                      Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                      Originally posted by briz1046
                      I'm one of those guys who think scouting should be almost totally dependent on your scouting staff
                      Excluding combine numbers etc , which should be available to everyone with no scouting required
                      All other attributes on any player fully scouted should be visible instantly , not just the top 3 , however the accuracy ( or range of possibilities) should depend on your scouting staff
                      The user could choose from a variety of scouts available , each with varying talent levels and specialities ( schools/ positions etc) and the accuracy or otherwise of the feedback would vary
                      Why would you ever choose the lesser talented scout?

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                      • jfsolo
                        Live Action, please?
                        • May 2003
                        • 12965

                        #12
                        Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                        Originally posted by SyncereBlackout
                        So how long do we have to wait for this to come to madden. Can we borrow Devs like live did?

                        I’d prefer scouts be regional than have an expertise in a position. Possibly both but if I had to choose regional over positional.


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                        Madden wouldn't need to borrow any Devs, the decision makers would just have to give the OK for the Madden team to implement it. I'm 100% sure that the guys already there could easily add this if they were allowed to.
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                        • briz1046
                          MVP
                          • May 2013
                          • 1017

                          #13
                          Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                          Originally posted by R1zzo23
                          The scouts could be all fictional making it much easier to incorporate into the game since the coordinators need to be licensed.

                          Fingers crossed I guess?


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                          Whilst it would be ideal if real life co-ordinators were included ( along with representative schemes/play books/ abilities /specialities) I don't think personally this is essential , generic type coaches with varying styles would satisfy me , however EA may have become vary wary of introducing "fictional " characters that in any way could be seen to mimic real people
                          They don't have an issue though with NE coach or whatever his name is having the Pats play books, but maybe they think Bellichick doesn't care ( probably right) but other coaches might ?
                          Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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                          • briz1046
                            MVP
                            • May 2013
                            • 1017

                            #14
                            Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                            Head Coach 09 scouting, free agency,RFA and injury system is the model.

                            EA did it on a game....lets go.


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                            I'd agree but this being in a current EA release I'd have more hope they could achieve this without a whole lot of development capital cost
                            Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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                            • R1zzo23
                              Cupcake Coach
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 5694

                              #15
                              Re: Shopmaster YT video regarding scouting

                              Originally posted by stinkubus
                              Why would you ever choose the lesser talented scout?

                              This would make much more sense in NCAA where smaller schools would need to settle for lesser scouts based on budgets. I guess if Madden introduced a front office budget where you needed to hire a head coach, two coordinators and multiple scouts then it could work.


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