Striking FEINTS issues + How to fix it

**dfab14** · 08-17-2018, 01:59 PM

Re: Striking FEINTS issues + How to fix it

I would love for feints to have less stamina tax. I try to incorporate them into my playstyle but the stamina tax makes it impossible to stick with them through a whole fight. It's just feels like a wasted energy most of the time.

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**Phillyboi207** · 08-17-2018, 02:03 PM

Re: Striking FEINTS issues + How to fix it

Agree with less stamina tax

Also there are strikes that cant be feinted which doesnt make sense

**dfab14** · 08-17-2018, 02:04 PM

Re: Striking FEINTS issues + How to fix it

That and they count as missed strikes which inflates the strike total

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**RomeroXVII** · 08-18-2018, 03:34 AM

Re: Striking FEINTS issues + How to fix it

Originally posted by SUGATA

How often are you using Strike Feints in EA UFC 3?...

EA UFC 3 current Strike FEINT MECHANICS:

 FEINT - [during Strike’s startup beginning] (may holding) press Block – Strike cancel into Feint.
Feint has not any effect on follow up strikes attributes: no speed or damage multipliers.
Possible to Feint ANY strike of a Hard/Soft Combo (and even several strikes or even ALL EVERY strikes of one Combo) by click the Block button after inputting the button press for a strike, and continue the Combo - w/o loosing anything of Hard/Soft Combo properties!
Examples:
1f-2-5-2
1-2-5f-2
1-2f-5-2f
1f-2f-5f-2f

Feint ST Stamina cost = this Strike ST Stamina cost w/o whiff:
- strike is input, you immediately are taxed the execution ST Stamina cost of the strike
- if the strike is Feinted, the Feint interrupts the strike with NO additional ST Stamina cost. Do NOT Feint powerful ST Stamina consuming strikes b/c will cost the same large ST Stamina!
- if the strike Whiffs, you are taxed an additional Whiff penalty which is what was increased with the patch.

Feint Usage:
- to get your Block up faster if you realize you made a mistake
- you can cancel to Feint
- you can queue up (buffering) a Strike cancel in a Combo to try and bait an opponent’s Sway/Step and catch your opponent.
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ISSUE #1 - Feint has not any effect on follow up strikes attributes: no speed or damage multipliers.
So, what is the reason to Feint? It is only psychological baiting, BUT this works IRL, but in the game where you dont see your opponent's eyes/reactions it will not work this way so good.

> Buff follow up Strike after the Feint. How?
- possibly by shorter Strike startup by 2-4 frames (as we have in Swaying strikes)
- by increasing Power (usually follow up strike after a Feint is accented strike, in EA UFC3 all ur strike ARE accented - this is WRONG and UNREALISTIC, increasing by 0.3 for example strike damage or stopping power will help!).

ISSUE #2 (which are breaking feints usage) - Feint ST Stamina cost = this Strike ST Stamina cost w/o whiff.
It mean of i want to feint my (powerful and 30% stamina cost) Flying knee i will PAY THE SAME 30% Stamina cost for this - for TIPTOE! Just look on powerful strike's Feint animation - it will never cost the same huge Stamina tax IRL!
This is breaking Feints usage (too much costs) and bs unrealistic!

> Make permanent ONE FOR ALL types of Feints (strike types) low (as Jab) Stamina tax OR remove Stamina tax for Feints at all. Even if you will need to instantly return removed on input stamina value.
Why? because Feinted strike is ALWAYS a planned strike (it is NOT a cancelled of failed strike) , so the fighter initially never will deposit much stamina and energy in it.

ISSUE #3 (discussed before) - Feints are counting as Strikes.
This is not right from any aspects and does not exist IRL in judging stats.

> Possibly it does not take effect on Decision by judges, but Missed/Landed strikes is an important stats anyway for many players, and i hope devs will fix it - any strike cancelled on early startup by Block is NOT counting as Strike in stats results.

> I created 1.5 year ago a thread about Feints evolving - it has some ideas how to evolve Feint further:

NEW Stand-up FEINT mechanics for EA UFC 3 (concept, ideas, discussions) - Operation Sports Forums

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/ea-ufc/903027-new-stand-up-feint-mechanics-ea-ufc-3-concept-ideas-discussions.html