How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

[Viking11]

I'm the type of person that makes a build that I like only to decide that I want to try something different shortly after. Does anyone have any tips or insight how I can stay invested in just one build? I usually play a pg because I like to play unselfish ball but I got bored early last year. I was thinking of going with a Pf because that's what I played in high school but I can hardly decided position let alone archetypes

[Kstat]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

I picture last year, when I had 4 archetypes by the springtime and none of them hit 90...

If you want to make serious progress, you gotta commit.

[Vechincaa]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

I can relate because I always make a ton of builds on 2k(made more than 20 on 2k17),
I think the secret is in having a clear idea regarding what you want to do, I generally like having an athletic ball handler who can defend and hit open jumpers and pull ups so that's what I end up sticking with most years even though I'm so indecisive.

[GK_11]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

I was thinking of going with a Pf because that's what I played in high school but I can hardly decided position let alone archetypes

I would say go PF and make him as similar to your skill set as possible, and scale the height accordingly - if you were undersized go 6'9 6'8, if you were huge for youre league go 7 feet.

I find if i can trick myself into really believing thisis the player i would be if i kept my same game but had the size/athleticism to play in the league its much easier to commit because my game is my game, you know? I played with a slasher for most of last year and near the end made a rebounder and even tho he was only 72 and my slasher was 92 i had more fun with him because it felt like i was really hooping and i just intuitively knew my strengths and weaknesses. And regardless what your game is theyve done a good job this year (it seems so far at least) of making all playstyles viable.

That doesnt mean just pick the 2 archetypes that describe you best necessarily tho - play around with builds at nba2klab and find a build with gold badges that would best describe your game.

[Viking11]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

I would say go PF and make him as similar to your skill set as possible, and scale the height accordingly - if you were undersized go 6'9 6'8, if you were huge for youre league go 7 feet.

I find if i can trick myself into really believing thisis the player i would be if i kept my same game but had the size/athleticism to play in the league its much easier to commit because my game is my game, you know? I played with a slasher for most of last year and near the end made a rebounder and even tho he was only 72 and my slasher was 92 i had more fun with him because it felt like i was really hooping and i just intuitively knew my strengths and weaknesses. And regardless what your game is theyve done a good job this year (it seems so far at least) of making all playstyles viable.

That doesnt mean just pick the 2 archetypes that describe you best necessarily tho - play around with builds at nba2klab and find a build with gold badges that would best describe your game.

I like this idea a lot. If I can get my face scan to look good I can maybe feel like it's me. Just need to find the combination of archs that feel closets to my game and have the badges that I want. Just off the top of my head I'm thinking 6'9" pf slashing/shot creating but I will have to look into it more

[GK_11]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

If I can get my face scan to look good I can maybe feel like it's me.

Just need to find the combination of archs

Yeah mine came out weird at first but after a couple quick edits i started to recognize that handsome mug haha.

And dont forget wingspan and weight have a muchhh bigger impact this year. Makes for a much wider variety of skill sets even within the same arch. I was having a hard time finding a build with the versatility i needed, but realized i could get my skill and athleticism attributes where i wanted by getting skinny and bringing down the wingspan.

Also when judging the wingspan,divide the number by 12 so you actually get an idea of what the size is instead of just a total number of inches. Makes it easier to reference against nba comps. Made it alot easier to swallow bringing it down when i realized just above min wing span was still 7'2" on a 6'11" player - for reference, Giannis is 7'2.5", and AD comes in at 7'4.5" - i am perfectly fine with not having an AD like wingspan if that means i can dribble better haha.

[ILLSmak]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

Just make a bunch of dudes. Can't you skip cutscenes, too? Just try to avoid people that hit a breakpoint you want at a really high overall. I dunno why you'd wanna go over 90, but they kind of got ya w the 94 take over thing. Making one guy sounds so boring.

I usually had my favorite player (shot creating post scorer 6'11 last yr) , a player that would at least loosely fit into the meta (two way post) , and a bunch of guys who I got to around 70-75. But Yea the having to grind out one guy gets boring. I want a guy at every position at least just for fun factor

-Smak

[Viking11]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

If I'm going to model him after myself should I scale the weight and wingspan the same as I do the height or just play with it to get the ratings I want?

[GK_11]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

Nah id say scale your height, but then play with weight/wingspan to get the ratings that line up with how you play more or less.

So lets say you were a shot creating athletic finisher at 6'9". Have a look at ball control, shooting, strength, speed and block.

Lets say you were a good defender for your size and had no trouble matching up with any pf and most centers despite your size, and generally needed to be setup on offense to score. Then i would bump the wingspan and weight up to the 7'2"+ and 260+ range give you a BIG boost to strength, boxout, block and shot contest.

Or if you were more of a 3-4 tweener who liked to play on the wing a little and bring the ball up the floor on the break, but had trouble guarding huge 4s and 5s, then slot the weight down to the 230 range and bring the wingspan down to 7'0" or under, and youll have a MUCH more reliable jumpshot and boosted ball control, speed and quickness.

I dunno if this is everyone, but theres usually a couple guys in the league who i watch and see and see pieces of my game in - figure out who those guys are for you, and check out what theyre ratings/badges are to establish a baseline.
(Even if its not a current player if you still have 2k18 they have tons of classic teams with everyone from All timers to super memorable role players that you can use. I used guys like KG, toni kukoc, shawn marion, larry bird and AD for example)

I knew i had found the right build when i sent a screenshot of the gold badges to my buddy and he started laughing at how much they described my game.

Im really impressed with the system this year, it feels really organic. In the full version youll be able to see how each adjustment affects your ratings, but for now the red and green bars are a decent indicator.

EDIT: if you were super big bonded or a lank dog you might want to adjust the height to make sure you get a body type that reminds you of yourself as well, i.e: if i was zion williamson or brandon ingram my weight is pretty integral to my identity on the court

[Viking11]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

Yea I got you man. Thanks, you helped out a lot. I'm just guna wait til the full game comes out to tweak the numbers but I should have a good idea now

[cjacks17]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

The best way is what is going to be the most fun role to play.

Last year I was a pure rim protector and loved it. I played a role on O but I was an accessory not a primary scorer and on D I played the hardest. It was fun.


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[Kleinevos]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

Game is not even out yet and i alrdy have 4 builds i want to play fml


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[Iasounis]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

I did it by buying into my ProAm team. We were shuffling and making dudes, and none were making SFs or lockdowns (2k17), so I made one. Not ball dominant on offense, but figured my best contribution would be on the defensive side. Also learned that my offense wouldn't be non-existent, so I grinded every badge (except ankle breaker), played within the build, and now love being a lock; secondary sharp.

That's basically it, figure out the role you want to play, and make a dude that fits. Then, try to additionally contribute in the ways that don't match your build; without forcing the issue.

[The Gym Reaper]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

Choose it based on how you want to play and have the patience to grind the character.

Everybody wants a shortcut, but there is none.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: How do you choose an archetype and stick with it?

Choose it based on how you want to play and have the patience to grind the character.

Everybody wants a shortcut, but there is none.

There's a couple responses like this, and they are correct.

When I was a kid, I was a pass minded PG. I grew up I idolized Shawn Kemp. When I started making the players that represented me, in 2k13/14 they were obviously ones who could do everything well. I started to find that attacking the rim, and either scoring or dropping a perfect dime brought me the most Joy.

Flash forward and it makes sense that I ran a pure slasher in 17, and a Playmaking Slasher in 18. Same thing in 19 now. It matches my skillset and that makes it easier to keep one build.

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