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  • PhillyPhanatic14
    MVP
    • Jun 2015
    • 4824

    #1

    Play Action Passes Broken?

    Has anyone else noticed that on every single PA pass the DE's magically wrap around the offensive tackles? It happens on every PA pass i've tried in multiple playbooks and the ratings of the o line and d line have nothing to do with it. Sometimes keeping a TE in will help, but usually that just makes the tackle stand there and do nothing.



    Sorry if there's already a thread about this... My search function isn't working and I didn't see anything when making the title.
  • cuoreceltico
    Rookie
    • Nov 2015
    • 283

    #2
    Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

    I understand your frustration, Hb Split screen are on the same boat, for the PA helps me quite a lot to raise high the passin blocking slider, false start and offensive holding too. Hope that helps you too.
    Why so serious??

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    • PhillyPhanatic14
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 4824

      #3
      Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

      Originally posted by cuoreceltico
      I understand your frustration, Hb Split screen are on the same boat, for the PA helps me quite a lot to raise high the passin blocking slider, false start and offensive holding too. Hope that helps you too.

      Thanks man i'll try it out. I didn't mind it when my tackles were in the mid-70's but now i've got them both in the 90's and i don't understand how it's still a thing other than it being a bug. Maybe that big patch they're hyping up will fix it.

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      • Dittohead
        Banned
        • Nov 2018
        • 11

        #4
        Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

        Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
        Has anyone else noticed that on every single PA pass the DE's magically wrap around the offensive tackles? It happens on every PA pass i've tried in multiple playbooks and the ratings of the o line and d line have nothing to do with it. Sometimes keeping a TE in will help, but usually that just makes the tackle stand there and do nothing.



        Sorry if there's already a thread about this... My search function isn't working and I didn't see anything when making the title.



        I'm at the point I honestly rarely call them. The predictability of PA and screen plays being utter garbage kills immersion.

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        • GoBlue7
          Rookie
          • Jul 2009
          • 264

          #5
          Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

          A lot of the play action plays seem to result in the d-line getting right onto the qb. In one of my franchise files, I am playing with the Packers (3-3) and just lost Aaron Rodgers to another broken collarbone off of a hit from a play action pass.

          Overall, the screen pass is pretty bad this year. Although recently it has seemed to be a bit better. Typically the D-Line is all over the running back out of the backfield and hits them for a loss.

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          • Shosum13
            MVP
            • Jul 2011
            • 1177

            #6
            Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

            Originally posted by GoBlue7
            A lot of the play action plays seem to result in the d-line getting right onto the qb. In one of my franchise files, I am playing with the Packers (3-3) and just lost Aaron Rodgers to another broken collarbone off of a hit from a play action pass.

            Overall, the screen pass is pretty bad this year. Although recently it has seemed to be a bit better. Typically the D-Line is all over the running back out of the backfield and hits them for a loss.
            I have way more success with play action passes then I do screen passes. I do agree that there are some issues with the play action passes but HB screens for me have been unusable. My blockers always let a defender or two just run my them with no attempts at making a block resulting in my RB getting tackled for a loss every time. I have had some some success with different WR screens.

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            • GoBlue7
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 264

              #7
              Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

              Originally posted by Shosum13
              I have way more success with play action passes then I do screen passes. I do agree that there are some issues with the play action passes but HB screens for me have been unusable. My blockers always let a defender or two just run my them with no attempts at making a block resulting in my RB getting tackled for a loss every time. I have had some some success with different WR screens.
              My biggest issue with play action has been on PA Slide plays or plays where the QB rolls out. That seems to be an automatic sack almost every time. I have had some success with standard PA where I have time to throw it.

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              • cuoreceltico
                Rookie
                • Nov 2015
                • 283

                #8
                Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                Yes, PA roolout are near automatic sacks play, and hb screens are ugly, they works pretty good in 18, i don't know why this year are broken, hope the next patch fix PA blocking and hb screen too
                Why so serious??

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                • underdog13
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 3222

                  #9
                  Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                  I've had decent success with HB screens. The key is to not throw them in predictable screen situations and to run them away from high awr DE.

                  I've had great success with wr screens. Just ran a bubble screen last night for a 12 yard gain. The A.I blocked it perfectly.

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                  • GoBlue7
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 264

                    #10
                    Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                    Originally posted by underdog13
                    I've had decent success with HB screens. The key is to not throw them in predictable screen situations and to run them away from high awr DE.

                    I've had great success with wr screens. Just ran a bubble screen last night for a 12 yard gain. The A.I blocked it perfectly.

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                    WR screens have been far more successful this year than anything to the RB.

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                    • AUTiger1
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2413

                      #11
                      Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                      PA passes are great in my experience!! Yes, sometimes I do get sacked on them but for the most part it's a big play. There's sometimes where as soon as the ball is snapped I'm tapping the button for the receiver I want to throw to because if I don't I'll get sacked because it's an all out blitz. Those work out well in my favor.
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                      • goalieump413
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 488

                        #12
                        Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                        Has anyone tried shifting your O Line to 'max protect'?

                        Also, what about out of, then back into the original PA play? I remember a couple of years ago I could do the double audible trick and it would nullify the automatic, mind-reading defense.
                        Last edited by goalieump413; 11-15-2018, 10:44 PM.

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                        • xSABOx
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 846

                          #13
                          Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                          According to frosty tool, I think the hidden minimum rating that fixes play action passes is 90 for the QB... I say try a game where both guys are over that and see what it kind of effect it has
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                          • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4682

                            #14
                            Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                            I don’t know if this is coincidence, but the only time I struggle with play-action is when I’m not running the ball well. It works fine early in the game and later as long as I mix up my play calling and have success running the ball.

                            Yes, there are times I have to get rid of it quickly, but as long as I throw with anticipation when needed I have a lot of success with it.

                            On All Madden with pass blocking anywhere from default to 0.
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                            • 49UNCFan
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                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2460

                              #15
                              Re: Play Action Passes Broken?

                              I think it just requires more strategy to pull off now, but usually results in a big play
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