2nd half shenanigans by cpu

[Boodybunz]

Just a rant here

I realize now 99% of the time the cpu makes a run sometime in the 2nd half which renders you utterly powerless. I know this has been covered before by countless others but im beyond sick of this.

No matter what team it is, it'll happen. You start to miss layups and point blank shots under the basket. The CPU recovers on defense so quickly whereas the game is in its latter stages and all your players are fatigued! All throughout the game you've been attacking the basket and getting to the line but during this "vintage" run by the cpu, you don't get calls anymore!

Your comfortable lead is now gone and so predictably the cpu now starts to put your team away. I've seen it WAY too many times.

By the way I have utilized different slider sets, difficulty settings. I call timeouts like many here have advised and use my playbook. I love playing this game and have been for years now. But this year has been infuriating.
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[CujoMatty]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

Just a rant here

I realize now 99% of the time the cpu makes a run sometime in the 2nd half which renders you utterly powerless. I know this has been covered before by countless others but im beyond sick of this.

No matter what team it is, it'll happen. You start to miss layups and point blank shots under the basket. The CPU recovers on defense so quickly whereas the game is in its latter stages and all your players are fatigued! All throughout the game you've been attacking the basket and getting to the line but during this "vintage" run by the cpu, you don't get calls anymore!

Your comfortable lead is now gone and so predictably the cpu now starts to put your team away. I've seen it WAY too many times.

By the way I have utilized different slider sets, difficulty settings. I call timeouts like many here have advised and use my playbook. I love playing this game and have been for years now. But this year has been infuriating.
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Exactly what I’m seeing as well.

[CDPABC]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

I will say. There have been times where I've understood what the CPU was doing, and how to adjust to it. Something like a manual sub, defensive setting, or offensive POE tweak.


When this happens, I can stop the run. The problem though is that most of the time I can't figure out how to react to what they're doing.


That almost kind of makes me feel better, just because I know it's POSSIBLE to stop it, and the NBA is truly a game of runs. But I'm just not good enough to figure it out. It pisses me off to no end, and I've murdered multiple controllers because of it.

[tariq071]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

Well i just did 30 games with same teams on 3 different levels (pro. allstar and superstar) and it was same result every time.


CPU will shoot 60-65+ % in 3rd quarter, and sometimes in 4th also, and it's always one guy that goers berserk.


No matter what you try , double him , guard him with lockdown defenders, call timeouts , that guy will go on to score 40+ in half, with ridiculously high shot percentage.


I've tried different sliders and even placing all defensive values to max, it doesn't make absolutely any difference whatsoever.


I won some and lost some so that's not an issue, but this is no fun and doesn't bears any resemblance to real life stuff....


wth....

[tariq071]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

To answer my own query , it appears that they did something with shooting in last patch that got out of hand ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHbg31RiUE

At least i know i was not going crazy ...

[Boodybunz]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

To answer my own query , it appears that they did something with shooting in last patch that got out of hand ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHbg31RiUE

At least i know i was not going crazy ...

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[Coach11]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

Well i just did 30 games with same teams on 3 different levels (pro. allstar and superstar) and it was same result every time.


CPU will shoot 60-65+ % in 3rd quarter, and sometimes in 4th also, and it's always one guy that goers berserk.


No matter what you try , double him , guard him with lockdown defenders, call timeouts , that guy will go on to score 40+ in half, with ridiculously high shot percentage.


I've tried different sliders and even placing all defensive values to max, it doesn't make absolutely any difference whatsoever.


I won some and lost some so that's not an issue, but this is no fun and doesn't bears any resemblance to real life stuff....


wth....

This has been my experience too. Mine hasn’t been strictly in the 3rd quarter though. In most of the games I play there’s that one quarter that I shoot around 25-30% while the CPU shoots around 60%.


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[timmg]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

I lowered the CPU Off/def awareness & CPU Off/def consistency, that helped eliminate the crazy CPU runs for me. Actually enjoying the game now, playing with the Lakers im 5-7, so im not dominating

[tariq071]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

I lowered the CPU Off/def awareness & CPU Off/def consistency, that helped eliminate the crazy CPU runs for me. Actually enjoying the game now, playing with the Lakers im 5-7, so im not dominating

The other thing is I have always played with 50+ (mostly 52) game speed , but this time i lowered Game Speed to 45 , and what do you know ...


Now you can setup screens without CPU jumping route before your player, no more blink of the eye steals after your steal or rebound, players that shouldn't blow by your defender can't do it anymore...and crazy scoring runs don't happen unless you let CPU get hot.


It looks that 2K AI "update" was only making animations faster in order to make up for deficiencies

[timmg]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

The other thing is I have always played with 50+ (mostly 52) game speed , but this time i lowered Game Speed to 45 , and what do you know ...


Now you can setup screens without CPU jumping route before your player, no more blink of the eye steals after your steal or rebound, players that shouldn't blow by your defender can't do it anymore...and crazy scoring runs don't happen unless you let CPU get hot.


It looks that 2K AI "update" was only making animations faster in order to make up for deficiencies

I think my speed is at 44......my bad game speed 48,(attributes) player speed 42

[tariq071]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

I think my speed is at 44......my bad game speed 48,(attributes) player speed 42

Well i went and plug in my last years sliders and game plays much, much better(game speed is 49 btw).


I'll give you a example, all shooting values for CPU are 52+ and it still shoots between 43-50% per game...so it's not shot success values that are causing offense OP stuff...


From what i have seen it's all about animation speed and lowering speed, acceleration in attributes , as well speed of ball carriers and non ball carrier did the trick .


Now when i play, if i lose i lost because i didn't do well tactically or if i win i won because i didn't make mistakes and played to my teams strengths.


That is all am asking from game , no more, no less...

[minigoliath13]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

Well i went and plug in my last years sliders and game plays much, much better(game speed is 49 btw).


I'll give you a example, all shooting values for CPU are 52+ and it still shoots between 43-50% per game...so it's not shot success values that are causing offense OP stuff...


From what i have seen it's all about animation speed and lowering speed, acceleration in attributes , as well speed of ball carriers and non ball carrier did the trick .


Now when i play, if i lose i lost because i didn't do well tactically or if i win i won because i didn't make mistakes and played to my teams strengths.


That is all am asking from game , no more, no less...

Do you mind posting this set of yours so we can all use it as well?

[tariq071]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

[ATTACH]

Do you mind posting this set of yours so we can all use it as well?

Just understand that this is work in progress, and i am not super expert in NBA 2K, also i always play 10+games and then make adjustments, as my goal is to make game plays faster(it feels superslow right now) but without breaking stuff:


***Please change one thing at time , otherwise it can break things without knowing what is causing it.***

1. I don't think that difficulty really matters(team that you are playing with matters more, imho) , but i've seen least cheese on Allstar (i like it on SS personally)

2. If shooting is to high or to low , adjust in increments +/- 1 for section that you think is needed (ex close shot success , etc..)

3. Speed and Acceleration in last year's sliders were ACC 40 and SP 35 , but that was to combat weak CPU drive defense. Add +5 if you think it's to slow, but be aware that it can possibly lead to same CPU problems.If CPU does like unstoppable slants or drives with players that are not realistic lower it by 5 (shrug)

4. Same goes for Movement values, i added possible testing ones on side use one of those for Human and CPU both (ex. use 70 or 73), if you don't like original ones.

5. I play with some house rules :

- I use ACE and Auto play calls for Offense and Defense ( i still call plays, but not all the time) I think it's fair that way..No cheese plays
- Manual subs , timeouts, player minutes and match ups
-Always set Switch rules to switch guard or switch bigs only, keep rest on default (or do whatever you want with rest)

[mcdowell31]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

If anyone is still having a problem: Lower every player's Shot IQ in the League by 20 points. If Shot IQ is over 80 then a player becomes god-like in shooting. I frequently play with Orlando: Aaron Gordon has an IQ of 99. Gordon is neither that smart offensively or that experienced. Roughly speaking, I calculate Shot IQ as FG% + 25. Much better. Now the other shooting attributes matter.

I get the feeling, like so many attributes, Shot IQ is bloated to make the game easier for users, but it is an oversized cudgel in the hands of the AI. Humans do not do bad with it either.

[Cletus]

Re: 2nd half shenanigans by cpu

I have had success with turning ACE off and cutting the offensive consistency to 0. I wouldn't go higher than 10 on Offensive Consistency. Sadly, I find that to be a team effect instead of player effect and I have still been torched by good players and shooters with it at 0. I would really try that before you go tweaking every little thing.