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  • htown5933
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    • Aug 2010
    • 1429

    #1

    PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

    EDIT : So, if anyone hasn't followed or wasn't aware and happens to come here for the 1st time just to check out the thread.... after making a draft prospects roster the last 4 years I'd decided NOT to do one this year. I was just going to "fix" someone's for myself since all I do is "play now".

    Was gonna' edit the teams the Cowboys play since that's all I do. Just don't have it in me to make the rosters anymore.

    But, after a few things occurred... one, no decent rosters appeared that I felt I was happy with, two, CJ2K100 started a draft prospects roster and was then joined by mar4380 and they made 230ish prospects together before CJ finally went through with what he'd been saying for some time... and was done creating guys.

    Three, mar4380 took over and created the entire draft plus quite a few UDFA's. Unfortunately, he didn't feel "right" about sharing the roster after finishing the project. After initially stating he'd consider releasing/sharing the roster if donations/tips to his paypal account "got high enough" he changed course and then made the requirement to release based on social media followers.

    Being that this was going on in the thread I'd made originally to see if any new up and comers were interested in doing what I used to do - and wasn't interested in doing any more - I didn't feel it was right and decided to edit the prospects ratings/appearance and add 21 more prospects to them as well as make all the adjustments I've made in the past to the roster - and release a draft prospects roster one final time.

    With CJ's blessing, I went ahead and did that. Unlike the last 4 years, I DO NOT have every draft pick in the roster. As of 5/21/19 it's missing 17 6th round picks and 25 7th round picks. It does however have around 40ish UDFA's. I hope to add the missing 6th rounders but won't be getting to the missing 7th round picks (unless a certain player or players is/are specifically requested).

    In the past I've released the roster with 100+ days remaining 'til the next Madden came out. That didn't happen this year, but from the early feedback, the roster is still very good and definitely playable so that you'll have something to hold you guys over 'til M20.

    The name of the file is HTOWN5933DRAFT2019. Enjoy!





    Hey guys, many of you will remember me from the past few years with my Draft Prospects rosters.

    For the last couple of years I've told myself I wasn't going to do the prospects this year, only to give in and do them (last year with the help of AZDAWGPOUND making a large number of the prospects).

    This year, I finally believe I'm going to stick to my just "fixing" someone else's draft prospects roster.

    However, with the draft class option this year and so many people who play franchise, I don't even know if there will be any rosters available with prospects in them.

    I'm creating this thread to find out if there's still enough guys out there who do not play franchise mode and do more "play now" than anything.

    That's all I've done since they've taken season mode out. I just don't have any interest in all the "fantasy" stuff that happens in franchise mode. I miss actual rosters being in tact throughout a season.

    Anyway, I went ahead and downloaded Thomas' 2019 draft class just to take a look at it. And the thought hit me - I wonder if there's anyone out there who has the time and energy I used to have that would be interested in maybe "copying" the prospects via the create a player for a play now roster.

    One thing I do when having to make someone who's no longer in the roster or stuck on IR on an old team (i.e. Kareem Hunt, Le'Veon Bell, etc) is I'll just use my phone and take pics of each screen, then use the pics to create the new player. It's quicker and easier than creating from scratch, ratings and all.

    So, I thought that doing that with Thomas' prospects would be easier - still time consuming obviously, but easier - than creating from scratch like those of us have in previous years with draft prospects.

    Again, there may simply not be enough interest in a play now roster with the addition of custom draft classes in this year's game.

    Just thought I'd check and gauge the interest, if any. I have an offseason roster with all future/reserve contract guys on their respective teams and all the offseason moves current - including using no retired numbers. Depth charts also include teams that have changed defenses (i.e. a 4-3 to a 3-4 and vice versa). Also fwiw, my Bell and Hunt have pics and experience - weren't created but rather copied over an existing player. My Witten was made by copying over retired Benjamin Watson - so he has 14 yrs exp but obviously no pic, just a generic pic as I had to change skin tone and face. The pic doesn't really look all that much like him, but in game it definitely does lol.

    If you want to check it out, the title is "Offseason2019" by H-Town5933 (and let me know if you see any issues with your team).

    If anyone is interested in maybe copying prospects and placing them in the free agent pool like those of us who've made draft rosters in the past do, let me know. Maybe we could work together and I keep up with the moves and you copy prospects. (but, please be pretty detail oriented - it's so easy to make mistakes when doing these)

    (oh, and no I wouldn't feel bad about copying his prospects - the dude stole my entire roster the day after the draft was completed last year lol)

    If not, I completely understand. Thanks!
    Last edited by htown5933; 05-21-2019, 01:01 AM.
  • omega412930
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    • Feb 2008
    • 4116

    #2
    Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

    Can’t wait brotha, it’s crazy how there’s under 500 prospects this year when there’s usually like 700


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    • htown5933
      MVP
      • Aug 2010
      • 1429

      #3
      Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

      Originally posted by omega412930
      Can’t wait brotha, it’s crazy how there’s under 500 prospects this year when there’s usually like 700


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      This is a perfect year for me to stick with my "I'm not doing the prospects this year" mantra (only to give in the last couple years) with the Cowboys not having a 1st round pick.

      I'm not quite as hyped as in the past 'cause of that.

      But still, as it gets closer, I am getting that itch again lol. I just know I don't have the determination to stick with it this year. Last year, I stayed up 23 hours straight after the final day of the draft just to release the roster Sunday morning. I just don't have that stamina and drive anymore lol. Or the patience to stick with making 10ish guys a day up until draft time.

      When I was making Bell, Hunt and Witten I realized the ratings categories have changed this year. There's more, they're out of order, etc. And people get mad or upset when you leave defensive ratings at the default numbers for an offensive guy, vice versa, etc.

      It is SO time consuming changing positions and editing throw power and accuracy (for example) for guys that will never throw a ball. Frustrating.

      If there's any play now rosters out there with prospects I may end up just using one of those or creating high profile guys, idk.

      I just hate resorting to that 'cause of all the work I've done on my current roster. In addition to the moves, the depth charts, no retired numbers and the Cowboys equipment/accessories being updated lol.

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      • killabeekill1
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        • Jun 2011
        • 14

        #4
        Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

        Are the contracts up-to-date?

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        • htown5933
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          • Aug 2010
          • 1429

          #5
          Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

          Originally posted by killabeekill1
          Are the contracts up-to-date?

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          Isn't the only way to mess with contracts in CFM?

          I don't play CFM. I don't mess with contracts. I used to have to reduce ratings when the salary cap was turned on even in play now in order to drop the contract amount on occasion to get a guy signed, then return the ratings to normal. Seems like EA took that off (finally) though.
          Last edited by htown5933; 03-24-2019, 03:29 PM.

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          • killabeekill1
            Rookie
            • Jun 2011
            • 14

            #6
            Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

            Originally posted by htown5933
            Isn't the only way to mess with contracts in CFM?



            I don't play CFM. I don't mess with contracts. I used to when the salary cap was turned on even in play now. Seem like EA took that off (finally) though.
            Think you are right, I'll see myself out. Great roster though!

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            • htown5933
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 1429

              #7
              Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

              OK, I can't believe I'm considering this one...

              But, would anyone be interested in doing the RATINGS ONLY - if I were to create the prospects, get their skin tone, face, birth date, hometown, equipment, etc as close as possible like I've done in the past - then someone who enjoys reading the scouting reports and/or is familiar with the college guys go through and handle the ratings?

              I could provide a speed chart I've used in the past, but the rest would be up to you.

              Just a thought (yes, I'm getting that draft itch a little lol).

              I'm not 100% sure I'm wanting to do this, but it was just a thought that crossed my mind as I looked at the download community files and no one really has the prospects in a play now roster - which is what I kinda' feared.

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              • mar4380
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                • Jan 2004
                • 423

                #8
                Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                Originally posted by htown5933
                OK, I can't believe I'm considering this one...

                But, would anyone be interested in doing the RATINGS ONLY - if I were to create the prospects, get their skin tone, face, birth date, hometown, equipment, etc as close as possible like I've done in the past - then someone who enjoys reading the scouting reports and/or is familiar with the college guys go through and handle the ratings?

                I could provide a speed chart I've used in the past, but the rest would be up to you.

                Just a thought (yes, I'm getting that draft itch a little lol).

                I'm not 100% sure I'm wanting to do this, but it was just a thought that crossed my mind as I looked at the download community files and no one really has the prospects in a play now roster - which is what I kinda' feared.
                I have done this for years.. but it just becomes so much work and then I don't even really use the file that much.. I would consider helping on this doing the ratings.. here are some thoughts to consider

                Roster File Size - Last year you were only able to create so many players before the file was full.. so you could change some of the lower level rookies or young players in the roster file to new rookies .. but I have contacted a guy on twitter who works at EA to find out the roster file size this year. Sometimes he answers me sometimes he doesn't... I remember last year I started this project and stopped at about 32 rookies when I was not able to create any more players and got frustrated.. EA adds so many players in the preseason that the roster file size gets so large and there is a cap # of players that can be in each roster.. you could start with the default roster from release of game but you would be missing so many players it would be even more of a headache.

                Do you know how many players can be created this year?
                Have you started creating players?

                I would think the first move would be to quickly create a bunch of generic players in a secondary roster file to find out how many created players can be made in the file..
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                • mar4380
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 423

                  #9
                  Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                  also did you create one of these files last year?? because I ran into the limited number of create a players issue didnt' you? or did you not use the final end of season EA roster??

                  also I have already created Jason Witten, Leveon Bell, and Hunt on the browns. I used other players instead of create a players.. I also have all the free agents moved with their contracts as close to as possible reality.. I have left some players on their old teams until they choose a new team because they have 1 year contracts that can not be duplicated in free agency so I wait to be able to trade them to their new team later on so they have a 1 yr contract for say 5 million.. which is impossible to do in free agency
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                  • htown5933
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                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1429

                    #10
                    Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                    Originally posted by mar4380
                    also did you create one of these files last year?? because I ran into the limited number of create a players issue didnt' you? or did you not use the final end of season EA roster??

                    also I have already created Jason Witten, Leveon Bell, and Hunt on the browns. I used other players instead of create a players.. I also have all the free agents moved with their contracts as close to as possible reality.. I have left some players on their old teams until they choose a new team because they have 1 year contracts that can not be duplicated in free agency so I wait to be able to trade them to their new team later on so they have a 1 yr contract for say 5 million.. which is impossible to do in free agency
                    Yes, I've created draft prospect rosters for the last 4 years after using other's rosters prior to that.

                    The 1st year I didn't realize the salary cap was an issue - it shouldn't have been in play now, only CFM, which I believe they finally fixed this year - and I created EVERY rookie on the Cowboys then released them into the FA pool so it screwed up their ability to sign anyone since they were WAY over the cap lol. I had to trade guys in order to get new guys on the team. Was a little frustrating.

                    The next two years I had the highest user rated draft roster on the community downloads. I was extremely thorough and detailed.

                    Last year I wasn't going to do one but me and AZDAWGPOUND started talking and he started creating prospects and allowed me to use his base roster and begin doing one. It didn't go as well as the two previous years.

                    But yes, as you mentioned, the CAP slots available has definitely been an issue in recent years.

                    Fortunately, as you mentioned, EA has had quite a few rookies in the game that we just create over. Guys that are on futures/reserve contracts and/or likely won't make teams.

                    I too have a roster I just uploaded last week and have been updating that has all the futures/reserve guys on their respective teams, all the free agents in the FA pool and new guys on their new teams. My Witten was made by creating over Benjamin Watson so the experience is close. Obviously had to change the skin tone and face so there's no pic, but it looks a lot like Witten in game. For Bell, I chose tight end Timothy Wright. I can't remember who I chose for Hunt. It was a lineman so his face looks a little chubby, but the hair and facial features are as close to Hunt as was available. But, Bell's experience is 5 like it is in the game. I think Hunt's is one year off.

                    I don't play CFM so the contracts being accurate isn't a concern for me. I hate the way the cpu handles rosters in CFM and don't like all the "fantasy" stuff and unrealistic stuff that happens. I miss "season mode" where you can just take an updated roster into a season and play - without the cpu altering other team's rosters. Just unrealistic for me and not a lot of fun. So I just use play now mode. Hate that I can't enjoy a season anymore but it is what it is.

                    I've sworn I wasn't going to do a draft roster the last couple of years - as you say, it's unbelievably time consuming and tedious - but each year I get that itch as the draft gets closer.

                    This year, with me another year older and with less stamina lol... and the Cowboys not having a 1st round pick, I thought "Finally - I won't spend all that time doing a roster". But, again... I've begun to feel that itch a little.

                    I just wanted to double check and make sure my estimated times were right and created a Nick Bosa and Quinnen Williams in a separate roster from the "Offseason2019" one I'm keeping up with. Seems to be taking like 8ish minutes to create a guy. To get his info accurate as well as his equipment and body as close as possible.

                    If I remember correctly, it takes 7-10 minutes to go through his ratings. I have a speed chart I've used for a few years that a guy who's continued making NCAA rosters for years shared with me. But, other than speed and maybe vertical, all you have is the scouting report to use when going through and making their ratings. So it seems like it's taken between 15 minutes and 20 minutes to make ONE GUY in the past. I'm pretty particular with trying to get the right equipment - from their last season in college - not just whatever pics pop up when you google them as well as their body type.

                    After thinking I'd just "fix" (when the depth charts/transactions/jersey numbers/etc) someone else's draft roster this year I looked and it doesn't seem anyone is really doing these now, likely due to the addition of the draft classes, since so many people play CFM.

                    So, I've thought to myself, "Could I muster up the energy to at least CREATE 250ish - 300ish prospects.... and get everything other than the ratings right, and maybe find someone who's actually better than me at the ratings - watches more college ball, reads more about the prospects, etc - who'd maybe want to do a joint project?"

                    I'd create maybe 10 guys and upload, then not upload another roster for the TRANSACTIONS until the ratings person finished those ten guys and re-uploaded. Then, I update the transactions and moves and create another ten guys or so and we go back and forth 'til 250ish prospects are done.

                    Maybe do 5 at a time instead of 10? Just a thought.
                    Last edited by htown5933; 03-27-2019, 11:51 PM.

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                    • mar4380
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 423

                      #11
                      Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                      Don't you think quickly creating a bunch of players to find out how many CAPs there are is a good idea? I feel like if you can only create say like 30 similar to last years file I spent the time doing that then stopped cause I didnt think I'd have enough room to create enough of the rookies.
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                      • htown5933
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                        • Aug 2010
                        • 1429

                        #12
                        Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                        Originally posted by mar4380
                        Don't you think quickly creating a bunch of players to find out how many CAPs there are is a good idea? I feel like if you can only create say like 30 similar to last years file I spent the time doing that then stopped cause I didnt think I'd have enough room to create enough of the rookies.
                        It's been like that the last couple of years.

                        I believe someone posted the max number of players allotted in the roster was 3,100 or something like that. I can't remember exactly. When I went into CFM to look at a draft class it imported my roster of 2,900 something.

                        So I assume there's close to a couple hundred CAP slots available this year.

                        But, even if it was only 30 something like last year, there should be enough rookies in the game that won't make teams that can be created over. That's what draft roster makers have had to do the last two years. Always find a way lol.

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                        • mar4380
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 423

                          #13
                          Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                          Originally posted by htown5933
                          It's been like that the last couple of years.

                          I believe someone posted the max number of players allotted in the roster was 3,100 or something like that. I can't remember exactly. When I went into CFM to look at a draft class it imported my roster of 2,900 something.

                          So I assume there's close to a couple hundred CAP slots available this year.

                          But, even if it was only 30 something like last year, there should be enough rookies in the game that won't make teams that can be created over. That's what draft roster makers have had to do the last two years. Always find a way lol.
                          Well if you want to tackle this I think we could get it about done by the draft.. about 10 players a day..

                          I am willing to do ratings I've actually helped the ea sports guy before with un-drafted rookies free agents checking their highlights, scouting reports, and then I have the conversion chart they use for times and everything.. let me know

                          did you say in your free agent moves file that you left players on teams with 1 yr remaining or did you cut them all into the free agent pool?
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                          • htown5933
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                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1429

                            #14
                            Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                            Originally posted by mar4380
                            Well if you want to tackle this I think we could get it about done by the draft.. about 10 players a day..

                            I am willing to do ratings I've actually helped the ea sports guy before with un-drafted rookies free agents checking their highlights, scouting reports, and then I have the conversion chart they use for times and everything.. let me know

                            did you say in your free agent moves file that you left players on teams with 1 yr remaining or did you cut them all into the free agent pool?
                            No, unfortunately I've done all the moves - well, except for today's. I'll catch those up in a couple of hours. I haven't left any unrestricted free agents on their teams. They're either in the FA pool or on their new team.

                            I'm tempted. But, as each day has went by my "itch" has went away little by little lol. Just not sure I have "it" anymore. I used to be so determined to have 300ish prospects pre-draft. Even after the draft, I'd have all the picks plus 100ish undrafted free agents.

                            It's tempting - real tempting. We'd have to somehow be more responsive than we have been on this thread lol. But, you're right - at this point we'd have to really try to do 10 a day. It's probably an hour and a halfish per day for each of us if we were to actually commit to it. May even have to do 12ish per day, in case we miss a day or so. Between 90 mins and two hours each.

                            It's a BIG commitment this close to the draft. I've never waited this long to start.

                            But, if you're confident you could do ratings, it might work. I used to start my top rated prospect around an 83 OVR and it'd run all the way down to around a 65ish OVR for 7th round guys.

                            With "life" happening, kids, work, real life sports, etc, it'd be tough this close to the draft. If we missed a day, we may have to try and double up whenever possible. Have a "catch up" day where we did like 20ish guys or more. Just some thoughts.

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                            • xApAthyx13
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                              • Sep 2016
                              • 1079

                              #15
                              Re: PS4 M19 Offseason Roster

                              Originally posted by htown5933
                              It's tempting - real tempting. We'd have to somehow be more responsive than we have been on this thread lol.
                              When the forums are dead and participation is bare minimum it's a buzz kill to the roster creator. Couldn't agree more with this statement.
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