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Papadoc60 · 03-28-2019, 03:44 PM

You also can't gas someone out by grappling them, there are a lot of things that need to change with stamina/subs/grappling for UFC 4 honestly.

Personally I feel like you can't spam sub attempts without penalty though, because if you deny a sub attempt they lose a lot of temporary stamina and you get a surge of grapple advantage. This should be enough for you to get back to full guard, or half guard and escape whichever position they have submissions for. Many submissions also have huge penalties for early denials. Someone in this thread mentioned that attempting submissions can be exhausting, but you know what else is exhausting? Defending them. Neiman Gracie vs Ed Ruth is a good example.

There are going to be many examples for both sides honestly, just like when you look at grappling exhausting the one doing the grappling vs exhausting the one being grappled.

If you deny the side control kimura early, you get stood up immediately. You can deny the arm triangle from half guard and side saddle early and reverse your opponent. I think submissions should give points for going through the gates, but I do agree the head damage mechanic can be pretty goofy sometimes.

03-28-2019, 03:44 PM	#5
Papadoc60 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Jun 2017	Re: How come you can spam sub attempts without any stamina penalty? You also can't gas someone out by grappling them, there are a lot of things that need to change with stamina/subs/grappling for UFC 4 honestly. Personally I feel like you can't spam sub attempts without penalty though, because if you deny a sub attempt they lose a lot of temporary stamina and you get a surge of grapple advantage. This should be enough for you to get back to full guard, or half guard and escape whichever position they have submissions for. Many submissions also have huge penalties for early denials. Someone in this thread mentioned that attempting submissions can be exhausting, but you know what else is exhausting? Defending them. Neiman Gracie vs Ed Ruth is a good example. There are going to be many examples for both sides honestly, just like when you look at grappling exhausting the one doing the grappling vs exhausting the one being grappled. If you deny the side control kimura early, you get stood up immediately. You can deny the arm triangle from half guard and side saddle early and reverse your opponent. I think submissions should give points for going through the gates, but I do agree the head damage mechanic can be pretty goofy sometimes.