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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33873

    #1

    The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back



    ESPN is reporting today that the NCAA is going to investigate whether the current rules can...

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  • Junior Moe
    MVP
    • Jul 2009
    • 3869

    #2
    Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

    It's time. I say that selfishly as a gamer, and as a fan of college sports. I get the schools not paying players directly and with title 9 and all that. But if a company like EA or 2K wants to license the players for a game, let them make that money. If Coke wants to pay Tua to hock product, let him make that money. If I want to pay Jake Fromm 100$ for an autograph, let dude make that money without fear of being suspended. I feel like if you let the market play out then you get rid of a lot of these shady dealings.

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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22926

      #3
      Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

      Seeing collegiate teams in NBA 2k and Madden now is making me feel like we may be coming closer to a game in the next few years. I would go bonkers for an NCAA football game on PC. I haven't kept up with all of the cases and whatnot, but is there still something other than fear from the universities that keeps a game from coming out that actually randomizes the rosters so that the likeness issue isn't the problem? Are there other issues at play besides the likeness issues? From what I understand, allowing the users to customize and share rosters is only an issue if EA markets the ability for users to create rosters that reflect real life. If they just market the ability to share rosters, sliders, playbooks, etc. then there is no liability. It only stems from them ever specifically marketing the aspect of using actual player likenesses in custom rosters and sharing them.
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      • tril
        MVP
        • Nov 2004
        • 2914

        #4
        somewhere in* a secret bunker, both 2k (CH2k) and EA(NCAA Football) have already been secretly working on a college sports title, just waiting for the day to be given the green light.* Upon given the go ahead both games release within a year.

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        • jwilphl
          Legal Advisor
          • Jun 2009
          • 1499

          #5
          Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

          Drop "shamateurism" and let the players commercialize themselves with free-market opportunities. This has always made the most sense, I'm just amazed the NCAA is actually attempting to follow through on it. Profit sharing might be a future step, but it may be both impractical and infeasible to implement. I say this because unless you do an even split across the board, you run into arithmetic issues, or the share may be so small that it isn't worth it.

          There could be alternatives to explore, of course. Scholarships, cost reductions, etc.

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          • Peter_OS
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 5088

            #6
            YES PLEASE!!!

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            • Big Bankhead
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              #7
              I’m all for it!!!!! I’ve been starving for college sports games. 
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              • Cam Fan
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                • Jun 2014
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                #8
                Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

                Translation: The Feds/Congress have told the NCAA behind closed doors that this is going to happen...

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                • theonlybstew
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                  #9
                  How convenient.  A couple independent companies are working on college FB games, now major companies are joining the race. ;-)
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                  • Gagnon39
                    Windy City Sports Fan
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 8544

                    #10
                    Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

                    I have said this for many years and never understood any attempts at an answer...

                    Why doesn’t EA or whoever, just make a college football game where they have everything BUT the players? Make a completely randomly generated roster for all teams. The problem before was that while the game never said... Tim Tebow... the quarterback from Florida was #15, threw left handed and had eerily similar attributes that Tebow would have had. So, well, just DON’T do that.

                    But still allow rosters to be edited. Problem solved it would seem. I just don’t get it.


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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #11
                      Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

                      Originally posted by Gagnon39
                      I have said this for many years and never understood any attempts at an answer...

                      Why doesn’t EA or whoever, just make a college football game where they have everything BUT the players? Make a completely randomly generated roster for all teams. The problem before was that while the game never said... Tim Tebow... the quarterback from Florida was #15, threw left handed and had eerily similar attributes that Tebow would have had. So, well, just DON’T do that.

                      But still allow rosters to be edited. Problem solved it would seem. I just don’t get it.


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                      The CFB backed out after the lawsuit. Prior to that prior likeness issue, EA was easily able to negotiate a deal to have every team in the game.

                      Once they backed out, it meant that any video game would have to individually negotiate with every single team to be in the game.

                      So not only would you have had a game with generic players, you would have also had a game with generic teams.

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                      • illwill10
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 19826

                        #12
                        Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

                        I would LOVE for NCAA to return. I believe it is time for a return. Since the ruling could be decided as late as this October, I'm sure EA will quickly gauge NCAA interest of bringing back a college football game. So potentially 2021 we could see a NCAA game. I believe it could be easy transition for EA to jump straight back into the college football game. Since NCAA would presumably use Madden's Engine and all that, they wouldn't have to build a new game from scratch. They could build off of NCAA 14 as far as features and atmosphere. Since NCAA wouldn't have the same pressure as Madden, devs would have more creative freedom. NCAA could immediately be a good game based on the easy transtion. If a return is possible, I wonder if they wait to develop for the next console generation. With the possibility of new consoles late next year, the first new NCAA game could be on the new generation. It still would be an easy transition due to Madden already developing for the new generation.

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                        • illwill10
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2009
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                          #13
                          Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          The CFB backed out after the lawsuit. Prior to that prior likeness issue, EA was easily able to negotiate a deal to have every team in the game.

                          Once they backed out, it meant that any video game would have to individually negotiate with every single team to be in the game.

                          So not only would you have had a game with generic players, you would have also had a game with generic teams.
                          Exactly.

                          I wonder if it does happen, would the CFB be willing to get back on board. That could be a deciding factor. Because even if they change the rule, if CFB doesn't get back on board, I don't see a return of NCAA football. I don't see EA getting every team to give up their likeness

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #14
                            Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

                            Originally posted by illwill10
                            Exactly.

                            I wonder if it does happen, would the CFB be willing to get back on board. That could be a deciding factor. Because even if they change the rule, if CFB doesn't get back on board, I don't see a return of NCAA football. I don't see EA getting every team to give up their likeness
                            I actually don't think that will be an issue. Their only fear was litigation. They will take money any way they can get it (as does any business).

                            The only fear would be potential for litigation which this could potentially negate based on language.


                            I was really only commenting on why there hasn't been generic games to this point as there was literally no means to do so with legitimate teams.

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                            • Nza
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3437

                              #15
                              Re: The NCAA is Investigating Whether or Not It’s Time to Bring NCAA Football Back

                              I'm curious to see how NCAA would fit into an EA that is now driven by competitive play, MUT and other commercial interests. NCAA is a bit more niche and I don't think fits that model very well. Its user base is likely much more interested in authenticity and EA probably wouldn't want NCAA eating into Madden's market anyway.

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