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  • johnnydrum
    Pro
    • Sep 2009
    • 733

    #1

    Bunting... Help

    Hello all
    New to MLB, elderly, UK.
    Can I ask a really stupid question?
    Why, when and what reason would one use a bunt?
    I fail to see how it would ever work in real life and in the game.
    Obviously its a tactic, but when /why would I implement it in a game.
    Please accept my apologise for my ignorance, but I want to play as realistic as possible and not utilising this move on my franchise would seem amis.
  • Gambo
    Rookie
    • Apr 2017
    • 266

    #2
    Re: Bunting... Help

    If a player knows how to bunt well it can be very effective as the ball can be placed in a certain location nearly at will.

    The most often use of the bunt is the sacrifice bunt. With runners on base and less than two outs it is used to move the runners to the next base at the cost of one out.

    Remember, a fouled bunt with 2 strikes is an out so never bunt with two strikes.

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    • mrsaito
      Pro
      • Nov 2009
      • 743

      #3
      Re: Bunting... Help

      Also the sacrifice bunt can be a viable strategy when a weak hitter is at bat, particularly pitchers in the National League.

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      • Rmiok222
        MVP
        • Nov 2015
        • 3129

        #4
        Re: Bunting... Help

        If I have a good bunter at the plate with a guy at 2nd and zero outs I’ll try to bunt him over to 3rd. After he’s on 3rd with just one out a deep fly ball, a grounder or a hit (obviously) will score the guy from third.

        That being said I wouldn’t bunt with an elite hitter.


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        • Caulfield
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 10986

          #5
          Re: Bunting... Help

          Originally posted by johnnydrum
          Hello all
          New to MLB, elderly, UK.
          Can I ask a really stupid question?
          Why, when and what reason would one use a bunt?
          I fail to see how it would ever work in real life and in the game.
          Obviously its a tactic, but when /why would I implement it in a game.
          Please accept my apologise for my ignorance, but I want to play as realistic as possible and not utilising this move on my franchise would seem amis.
          After 150 years, people in America are slowly realising what you picked up on instinctively lol apparently bunting is bad when there are 0 outs, 1 out or 2 outs. Any other time is alright to bunt I'm stubborn, I'll still bunt with my pitchers when a runner is on base. Even if there are2 strikes, I'd rather strikeout than risk grounding into a double play. If I cant afford to give away an out with a pitcher then I'll consider a pinch hitter. Also, this is for sac bunting. Drag bunting is a different animal and I'll rarely drag with a pitcher
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          • Tonesta78
            Rookie
            • Nov 2015
            • 32

            #6
            Re: Bunting... Help

            Originally posted by johnnydrum
            Hello all
            New to MLB, elderly, UK.
            Can I ask a really stupid question?
            Why, when and what reason would one use a bunt?
            I fail to see how it would ever work in real life and in the game.
            Obviously its a tactic, but when /why would I implement it in a game.
            Please accept my apologise for my ignorance, but I want to play as realistic as possible and not utilising this move on my franchise would seem amis.


            So as another Brit who has fallen in love with the game of baseball (almost as much as I like cricket...…)


            The main purpose of the bunt is when you have a guy coming to the plate who is a terrible hitter - and you have runners on base - to make sure that his inevitable out is productive.


            If he hits a good bunt, then even if he is out - at least the other runners have been able to move up a base. Much better than if he struck out, popped out or, worse, ground weakly into a double play.


            The alternative is if you have a batter with a ton of speed - if they're good enough at it, then they can bunt as a means of getting a hit.

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            • johnnydrum
              Pro
              • Sep 2009
              • 733

              #7
              Re: Bunting... Help

              Thank You ALL so much...! (And thank you for the lovely welcome)

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              • Integ
                Rookie
                • May 2007
                • 94

                #8
                Re: Bunting... Help

                Study the pitcher at the plate if his bunt rating is sub 60 good chance he'll pop out or rocket it right at the first baseman.

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                • johnnydrum
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 733

                  #9
                  Re: Bunting... Help

                  Thank you so much for the help.
                  I will add "bunting" to my reportoire (which now consists of wild home run swing to nothing)
                  So essentially, less than 2 outs, sacrifice natter, but move along the bases... Got it.

                  So, what's "drag bunting"?
                  Dont think I have seen that??

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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #10
                    Re: Bunting... Help

                    Originally posted by johnnydrum
                    Thank you so much for the help.
                    I will add "bunting" to my reportoire (which now consists of wild home run swing to nothing)
                    So essentially, less than 2 outs, sacrifice natter, but move along the bases... Got it.

                    So, what's "drag bunting"?
                    Dont think I have seen that??
                    drag bunt you're trying to get on baseand not necessarily trying to move another runner over to the next base. You'd even see a drag bunt when no one is on base. You'd ideally have a fast speedster attempt drag. There is also a separate attribute rating for deag. One more thing, sacrifice bunting (regular bunt) you hold triangle button down well before the pitcher releases the ball. Drag you just tap and release triangle as the pitch arrives at the plate. Kinda like a surprise attack, even though the other team might be looking for it from a good drag bunter and fast . You might even notice the other teams 3rd baseman cheating close in defense of a drag. This might be an excellent time to just drill one past third instead of drag bunting. Sorry for the long post. I'm also afraid I might be giving the impression dragbunts are common. They're not, IMO
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                    • sccavs64
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 587

                      #11
                      Re: Bunting... Help

                      Originally posted by johnnydrum
                      Thank you so much for the help.
                      I will add "bunting" to my reportoire (which now consists of wild home run swing to nothing)
                      So essentially, less than 2 outs, sacrifice natter, but move along the bases... Got it.

                      So, what's "drag bunting"?
                      Dont think I have seen that??
                      Drag bunt is a tool for speedy players that bat left-handed. Since the lefty batter's box is closer to first, speedy players that hit from that side can do this really effectively.

                      It's a strategic move not to advance a runner, but to actually get a hit and get on base. They wait until the very last second when the pitch is on the way to the plate, and begin running to first while laying down the bunt at the same time.

                      Check the video below, Ichiro was one of the best in the "biz" at this. The defender made an inaccurate throw but Ichiro would have been safe even if the throw was accurate.

                      Last edited by sccavs64; 05-17-2019, 03:15 PM.

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                      • Caulfield
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10986

                        #12
                        Re: Bunting... Help

                        so, I wonder, if I have a guy whose regular bunt rating is, let's say 20, but his drag bunt rating is say, 40, and I'm just trying to move a baserunner up, am I better off using drag bunt as a sac bunt? My batter is too slow to actually think of using a drag to get on base that way, but it occurs to me maybe I should use his drag as a sac bunt?
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