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  • simbayless
    MVP
    • May 2011
    • 2051

    #1

    I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

    All pro is too easy and all madden is too hard since this Gen started.I think they should make one more extra level that makes the AI smarter then ever, like:QB decision making based on IQ ratings,and the CPU running game needs to challenge the user as well.
    We definitely need more new sliders for our liking.
  • edgevoice
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 1199

    #2
    Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

    Originally posted by simbayless
    All pro is too easy and all madden is too hard since this Gen started.I think they should make one more extra level that makes the AI smarter then ever, like:QB decision making based on IQ ratings,and the CPU running game needs to challenge the user as well.
    We definitely need more new sliders for our liking.
    I would love to see a return of the sliders we had in Madden 12. They worked beautifully and game played very organic. Only had to tune user side of the fence to bring about the gameplay experience I wanted.

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    • mestevo
      Gooney Goo Goo
      • Apr 2010
      • 19556

      #3
      Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

      Is anyone even talking about it for M19? I've enjoyed all pro stock and w/ sliders in 19. Still do, little reason to expect much to change in 20 so there's nothing really driving that conversation.

      How do you fix it, abstractly wanting another difficulty between two doesn't seem helpful, what specifically do you want that isn't accomplished by sliders?

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      • edgevoice
        MVP
        • Sep 2008
        • 1199

        #4
        Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

        Originally posted by mestevo
        Is anyone even talking about it for M19? I've enjoyed all pro stock and w/ sliders in 19. Still do, little reason to expect much to change in 20 so there's nothing really driving that conversation.

        How do you fix it, abstractly wanting another difficulty between two doesn't seem helpful, what specifically do you want that isn't accomplished by sliders?
        I would like to at least see a return of the break block slider that we used to have, which was tied to the running game.

        I agree with you, very little reason to anticipate any changes to sliders, although one of the devs stated a few months ago that they need to be looked in to. I got my hopes up then, but have since heard nothing.

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        • Shosum13
          MVP
          • Jul 2011
          • 1177

          #5
          Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

          Originally posted by simbayless
          All pro is too easy and all madden is too hard since this Gen started.I think they should make one more extra level that makes the AI smarter then ever, like:QB decision making based on IQ ratings,and the CPU running game needs to challenge the user as well.

          We definitely need more new sliders for our liking.
          Yea I had a hard time with 19 finding a good difficulty level for play vs the CPU. On All pro even with any slider set that I tried I found it too easy to win. All Madden without any slider adjustments still has some cheesy play from the CPU, not as bad as previous Maddens but it's still there. I finally settled on all madden with a slider set that got rid of a lot of the cheese but still kept the difficulty level up. It still needs some work though, itd be cool if they could bring back dynamic difficulties.

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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #6
            Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

            IMO All-Madden has been tunable the last couple of years to the point where you can get a very balanced game. The thing is that a difference of 2 or 3 points on a given slider makes a big difference on AM, so you really needed to put in the time on each slider to make it work, but it was worth the effort, IMO.
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            • UtahUtes32
              MVP
              • Jul 2007
              • 1782

              #7
              Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

              OP is correct.

              Just for fun I played a game on All Pro.
              Human sliders all at 1, except WR catching (15) and QB accuracy (25).
              CPU sliders all @99 except QB accuracy (40), pass blocking (40) and WR catching (40).

              It was competitive, I won 23-20, but I had three running backs go over 100 yards (Lindsay, Booker and Freeman)...

              How do I have 3 running backs go over 100 when my run blocking slider is at 1 and CPU Tackling @99?

              Its not like I ran outside runs, it was dives and zone plays, only a few 20+ yard runs.

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              • goalieump413
                Stay thirsty my friends
                • Apr 2010
                • 488

                #8
                Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                Originally posted by simbayless
                All pro is too easy and all madden is too hard since this Gen started.I think they should make one more extra level that makes the AI smarter then ever, like:QB decision making based on IQ ratings,and the CPU running game needs to challenge the user as well.
                We definitely need more new sliders for our liking.
                I agree that All Madden is too hard. But All Pro can still be a challenge if you gt into the slider science.

                If there was another difficulty level, I'd want it to be between Pro and All Pro. Make Pro for newer players that want some challenge, and make All Pro for players that have been around for a while and are willing to accept whatever AI cheat logic might be embedded in the game.

                Above all, make the algorithm transparent so customers have a better understanding of how the difficulties work.

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                • Rayzaa
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 1176

                  #9
                  Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                  Pretty much I play on All Pro with adjusted sliders so it is more competitive and I actually have a lot of good games. All Madden is just ridiculous.

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                  • kennylc321
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 928

                    #10
                    Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                    Honestly, the solution is to develop a realistic game level where everything is based on the player's ratings. 90 rated DL will manhandle 50 rated blockers. 95 rated WRs will beat 70 rated DBs. If I have one of these matchups, make me, as the gamer, adjust by throwing quicker, double teaming or whatever. Don't let me adjust by changing sliders.

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                    • Rayzaa
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 1176

                      #11
                      Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                      Originally posted by kennylc321
                      Honestly, the solution is to develop a realistic game level where everything is based on the player's ratings. 90 rated DL will manhandle 50 rated blockers. 95 rated WRs will beat 70 rated DBs. If I have one of these matchups, make me, as the gamer, adjust by throwing quicker, double teaming or whatever. Don't let me adjust by changing sliders.
                      Ive never kept a 50's rated OL on my team. Dont know why anyone would. Even the CPU dont have 50's rated OL.....or any possition players on their teams lol.

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                      • UtahUtes32
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1782

                        #12
                        Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                        Originally posted by Rayzaa
                        Ive never kept a 50's rated OL on my team. Dont know why anyone would. Even the CPU dont have 50's rated OL.....or any possition players on their teams lol.
                        His point (I assume) is also that there SHOULD be 50/60 overall starters in the field.

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                        • boxboy99
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 2320

                          #13
                          I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                          Almost every other sports game has 5 difficulty levels. Some have six. I’ve wanted to see a level between all pro and all madden for over a decade. Messing with sliders almost always leads to the end of my enjoyment of a CFM. Tune sliders just for a patch to change the entire game. Then am I winning or losing organically or due to slideritis?

                          At least I can challenging game from NCAA 14 on default Heisman with limited house rules.


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                          Last edited by boxboy99; 05-29-2019, 07:21 PM.
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                          • Rayzaa
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 1176

                            #14
                            Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                            Originally posted by boxboy99
                            Almost every other sports game has 5 difficulty levels. Some have six. I’ve wanted to see a level between all pro and all madden for over a decade. Messing with sliders almost always leads to the end of my enjoyment of a CFM. Tune sliders just for a patch to change the entire game. Then am I winning or losing organically or due to slideritis?

                            At least I can challenging game from NCAA 14 on default Heisman with limited house rules.


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                            Sliders aren't that hard. On All Pro your team is set at 50 on everything, on All Madden it's 25. Go in the middle of those.

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                            • Darth Aegis
                              Lord of Suffering
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 4169

                              #15
                              Re: I am surprised nobody asking about Madden 20 difficulty levels

                              Originally posted by Rayzaa
                              Sliders aren't that hard. On All Pro your team is set at 50 on everything, on All Madden it's 25. Go in the middle of those.
                              25 on All Madden? That's incorrect, everything is set to 50 on default.
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