Gameplay videos?

[stooge 1010]

Anybody know when we’re gonna get some good gameplay videos?


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[bjthomas121]

Re: Gameplay videos?

In the qjb thread. There is some X factor gameplay in there

[stooge 1010]

Gameplay videos?

I mean full sim game.


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[l8knight1]

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When it is posted...one more thing permanently removed on the field....referees...per Eric Rayweather/Clint. LAME.

[roadman]

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When it is posted...one more thing permanently removed on the field....referees...per Eric Rayweather/Clint. LAME.

Ouch.................................

[stooge 1010]

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When it is posted...one more thing permanently removed on the field....referees...per Eric Rayweather/Clint. LAME.

I was just wondering if anybody knew when, no need to get snippy


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[audbal]

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When it is posted...one more thing permanently removed on the field....referees...per Eric Rayweather/Clint. LAME.

If it's in the game, it's in the game. Whatever.

[ODogg]

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If it's in the game, it's in the game. Whatever.

I think EA quit using that years ago because they realized not everything in a real football game works well when it's in a video game. And rightfully so in many cases. Not speaking to this one, just in general.

[Earl1963]

Gameplay videos?

I think EA quit using that years ago because they realized not everything in a real football game works well when it's in a video game. And rightfully so in many cases. Not speaking to this one, just in general.

This is one of many reason why I have gone back to PS2 Madden games. The older games are way more authentic and EA should be ashamed for going backwards.

[ODogg]

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This is one of many reason why I have gone back to PS2 Madden games. The older games are way more authentic and EA should be ashamed for going backwards.

I read an article once by Trip Hawkins about how, as we get better technology, people will see more and more the flaws in gaming. The reason was in the Playstation and Nintendo days of old we all had to use a certain amount of imagination to game. Obviously because the games were just not real looking and was missing so much.

As we get closer and closer to real broadcast quality graphics, I mean some games can be mistaken for the real thing in a certain light these days, more and more of what is NOT there is becoming apparent.

I think the idea of going back to older gaming systems and games is a part of this thought line.

[Earl1963]

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I read an article once by Trip Hawkins about how, as we get better technology, people will see more and more the flaws in gaming. The reason was in the Playstation and Nintendo days of old we all had to use a certain amount of imagination to game. Obviously because the games were just not real looking and was missing so much.



As we get closer and closer to real broadcast quality graphics, I mean some games can be mistaken for the real thing in a certain light these days, more and more of what is NOT there is becoming apparent.



I think the idea of going back to older gaming systems and games is a part of this thought line.

Sounds like a very poor excuse to me, because I never had to use my imagination while playing PS2 Madden games. But in Madden 19 I had to use my imagination that refs were on the field. With better tech we should see less flaws and MORE of what we see on Sunday’s if anything. Talk about backward thinking. Smh

[ODogg]

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Sounds like a very poor excuse to me, because I never had to use my imagination while playing PS2 Madden games. But in Madden 19 I had to use my imagination that refs were on the field. With better tech we should see less flaws and MORE of what we see on Sunday’s if anything. Talk about backward thinking. Smh

I don't think you're getting the point. When we had cartoons there was very little realism so no one noticed if something minor wasn't there. Hell, many major things weren't there. I recall playing 4 on 4 football on my Atari for example. I wasn't thinking about refs, we didn't even have all the players on the team.

The focus back then was more on the game and enjoying it and less on realism.

Now, with powerful machines we have incredible realism but yes you do notice things like refs not being on the field because the game actually looks very realistic and it stands out.

This will be the case going forward, people will not focus on how amazing things look (well they may initially) but rather the things that are not amazing and/or missing.

This is what Trip's article spoke about and I agree with him, there's a certain amount of truth in that respect.

Gamers do not appreciate having 90% realism, which is about 80% more than we used to have. They focus on the missing 10%.

[Rhudey]

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I don't think you're getting the point. When we had cartoons there was very little realism so no one noticed if something minor wasn't there. Hell, many major things weren't there. I recall playing 4 on 4 football on my Atari for example. I wasn't thinking about refs, we didn't even have all the players on the team.

The focus back then was more on the game and enjoying it and less on realism.

Now, with powerful machines we have incredible realism but yes you do notice things like refs not being on the field because the game actually looks very realistic and it stands out.

This will be the case going forward, people will not focus on how amazing things look (well they may initially) but rather the things that are not amazing and/or missing.

This is what Trip's article spoke about and I agree with him, there's a certain amount of truth in that respect.

Gamers do not appreciate having 90% realism, which is about 80% more than we used to have. They focus on the missing 10%.

I totally agree with this, there's also a lot of sports gamers that didn't play those old games as well, so maybe they don't appreciate how far things have come. The first football game I played was Head to Head Football (by Mattel I think), the players were red dots, now guys are upset about not having the latest Nike shoes or the stripes are wrong. Like others have posted, the biggest "fun factor" for me was the PS2 era, it wasn't until PS3 that I started to become obsessed with slideritis and trying to get the gameplay the way I wanted it.

[Earl1963]

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I don't think you're getting the point. When we had cartoons there was very little realism so no one noticed if something minor wasn't there. Hell, many major things weren't there. I recall playing 4 on 4 football on my Atari for example. I wasn't thinking about refs, we didn't even have all the players on the team.



The focus back then was more on the game and enjoying it and less on realism.



Now, with powerful machines we have incredible realism but yes you do notice things like refs not being on the field because the game actually looks very realistic and it stands out.



This will be the case going forward, people will not focus on how amazing things look (well they may initially) but rather the things that are not amazing and/or missing.



This is what Trip's article spoke about and I agree with him, there's a certain amount of truth in that respect.



Gamers do not appreciate having 90% realism, which is about 80% more than we used to have. They focus on the missing 10%.

I honestly don’t understand what you are saying, at all. All I know is Madden games on PS2 are way more authentic than they are now.

And how come developers like Codemasters F1 series are able to continue to make their game more authentic with each console release but EA continue to make excuses for going backwards!?

[ODogg]

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I honestly don’t understand what you are saying, at all. All I know is Madden games on PS2 are way more authentic than they are now.

If you don't understand ask your wife or some non-gamer which looks more like the real thing, PS2 Madden or Madden 20. I'd be very surprised if they said the old Madden.

You're a sim/feature oriented gamer and I get it. But the point is with increasing realism means increasing ultra-scrutiny for absolutely everything to be there. And even the smallest thing not being there is noticed really immediately because of just how realistic the game is.

That same type of scrutiny is not applied to old games. If it was a million things could be found that is wrong.

Again, complain about missing refs in Madden 20 but look at an old Maddens, they used passing windows at one time for goodness sake and you only had 3 potential receivers.

Try running the spread passing attack with that, LOL.

Say what you will about games of old, they were fun, but the truth is if you broke down those games and compared to today's games across the board it wouldn't even be close as to what is actually more realistic in both look, feel, rules and ultimately the way that the sport is played.