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  • shockl3y
    Rookie
    • Aug 2007
    • 408

    #1

    QB Scrambling??

    Has this changed/improved for Madden 20? Could’ve sworn I read somewhere that it was changed for M20 and more lethal. But in the videos I’ve seen on YouTube it looks exactly the same. I was planning on capitalizing on the new way to play, going to be mighty disappointed if it hasn’t changed at all.
  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #2
    QB Scrambling??

    Originally posted by shockl3y
    Has this changed/improved for Madden 20? Could’ve sworn I read somewhere that it was changed for M20 and more lethal. But in the videos I’ve seen on YouTube it looks exactly the same. I was planning on capitalizing on the new way to play, going to be mighty disappointed if it hasn’t changed at all.


    Yes the CPU AI QBs do scramble now. On default All-Pro the CPU QBs will chew you up if you don't spy them

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    Last edited by ODogg; 07-26-2019, 08:26 AM.
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    • capa
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 5321

      #3
      Re: QB Scrambling??

      This might be tied again to QB traits. If he is listed as a scrambler he should be taking off. If he is listed as Pocket he may wind up taking more sacks than he should.

      19 had an issue where the QBs did not avoid the rush that well and some just stood there and took sacks...mostly the Pocket guys. Other QB traits also play into this.

      For 20, I was hoping that no matter what type of QB there is, that he would do a better job of at least trying to move around in the pocket and escape the rush (unless overwhelmed by 2 or 3 guys). Not just stand there or fade back another 10-15 yards.

      Do you guys see that happening in 20? For the less mobile guys I mean.

      C

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      • ODogg
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #4
        Re: QB Scrambling??

        Originally posted by capa
        This might be tied again to QB traits. If he is listed as a scrambler he should be taking off. If he is listed as Pocket he may wind up taking more sacks than he should.

        19 had an issue where the QBs did not avoid the rush that well and some just stood there and took sacks...mostly the Pocket guys. Other QB traits also play into this.

        For 20, I was hoping that no matter what type of QB there is, that he would do a better job of at least trying to move around in the pocket and escape the rush (unless overwhelmed by 2 or 3 guys). Not just stand there or fade back another 10-15 yards.

        Do you guys see that happening in 20? For the less mobile guys I mean.

        C
        I have seen some pocket QBs move left and right and even step up as well to avoid sacks.
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        • shockl3y
          Rookie
          • Aug 2007
          • 408

          #5
          Re: QB Scrambling??

          Originally posted by ODogg
          Yes the CPU AI QBs do scramble now. On default All-Pro the CPU QBs will chew you up if you don't spy them

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          Oh my bad, I meant user QB Scrambling. More specifically, I thought you could freely sprint behind the line of scrimmage as a QB this year. Like if you want you can push a button to make the passing icons go away so your QB isn’t even thinking about passing. Then if you change your mind you can bring them back up and scramble like we’ve been able to.

          Does that make sense? Basically meaning you can utilize your QB’s full speed and sprint instead of a half sprint type deal of years past where you can still throw out of it. Sorta like how it was in 2K football back in the day where you could even spin and juke behind the line of scrimmage.

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          • ODogg
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2003
            • 37953

            #6
            Re: QB Scrambling??

            Originally posted by shockl3y
            Oh my bad, I meant user QB Scrambling. More specifically, I thought you could freely sprint behind the line of scrimmage as a QB this year. Like if you want you can push a button to make the passing icons go away so your QB isn’t even thinking about passing. Then if you change your mind you can bring them back up and scramble like we’ve been able to.

            Does that make sense? Basically meaning you can utilize your QB’s full speed and sprint instead of a half sprint type deal of years past where you can still throw out of it. Sorta like how it was in 2K football back in the day where you could even spin and juke behind the line of scrimmage.
            Yeah and it's funny you say that because I just talked to Clint Oldenburg, the Madden producer, on Twitter about that.

            It is tap LT once to pull the passing icons down and become a runner.
            Then tap LT again to go back to being a QB.


            That information is not listed anywhere in the game or on the game controls screen so I tweeted to Clint "please add this as it is a really cool function and people need to know how to use it".

            Who knows if they'll ever add it though..but that's how you do it.
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            • Iteachpercussion
              MVP
              • Jul 2012
              • 1815

              #7
              Re: QB Scrambling??

              Originally posted by ODogg
              Yeah and it's funny you say that because I just talked to Clint Oldenburg, the Madden producer, on Twitter about that.

              It is tap LT once to pull the passing icons down and become a runner.
              Then tap LT again to go back to being a QB.


              That information is not listed anywhere in the game or on the game controls screen so I tweeted to Clint "please add this as it is a really cool function and people need to know how to use it".

              Who knows if they'll ever add it though..but that's how you do it.
              Thanks for getting that officially clarified. You would think they would have added that info to the controls information in game. I remember everyone was confused during the beta as well. Thanks again!

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              • RogueHominid
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2006
                • 10898

                #8
                Re: QB Scrambling??

                Originally posted by shockl3y
                Has this changed/improved for Madden 20? Could’ve sworn I read somewhere that it was changed for M20 and more lethal. But in the videos I’ve seen on YouTube it looks exactly the same. I was planning on capitalizing on the new way to play, going to be mighty disappointed if it hasn’t changed at all.
                Bortles ran on me several times once Goff went out in my recent pre season game.

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                • gausec
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1034

                  #9
                  Re: QB Scrambling??

                  Originally posted by Darth Raider
                  Bortles ran on me several times once Goff went out in my recent pre season game.
                  Glad players are moving, have yet to play, but this is a step in the right direction.
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                  • schnaidt1
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 5194

                    #10
                    Re: QB Scrambling??

                    Must be nice... Kyler Murray only took off against me 2 times

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                    • RogueHominid
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 10898

                      #11
                      Re: QB Scrambling??

                      Originally posted by schnaidt1
                      Must be nice... Kyler Murray only took off against me 2 times

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                      Play level could be contributing. I played on AM and he ran several times, twice for scores. Are you on AP or AM?

                      I ask because the complaints I see about BCV on AP are not an issue at all on AM when it comes to HB. It may be that QBs are implicated as well...

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                      • shockl3y
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 408

                        #12
                        Re: QB Scrambling??

                        Originally posted by ODogg
                        Yeah and it's funny you say that because I just talked to Clint Oldenburg, the Madden producer, on Twitter about that.

                        It is tap LT once to pull the passing icons down and become a runner.
                        Then tap LT again to go back to being a QB.


                        That information is not listed anywhere in the game or on the game controls screen so I tweeted to Clint "please add this as it is a really cool function and people need to know how to use it".

                        Who knows if they'll ever add it though..but that's how you do it.
                        So it’s a toggled thing. Interesting. Well it’s definitely an awesome feature. Can you do moves when you’re toggled into scramble mode? Like jukes, spins, etc?

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                        • ODogg
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #13
                          Re: QB Scrambling??

                          Originally posted by shockl3y
                          So it’s a toggled thing. Interesting. Well it’s definitely an awesome feature. Can you do moves when you’re toggled into scramble mode? Like jukes, spins, etc?
                          Yeah once you toggle it off you're like a RB basically
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                          • TurboTitan
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 803

                            #14
                            Re: QB Scrambling??

                            Even "scrambling" QB's get absolutely NO rushing yards. Multiple seasons simmed and Lamar Jackson never got over 100yds rushing FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON!!.EA made some descent improvements in areas bit there are WAY too many glaring legacy issues that havent been touched in YEARS.

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                            • haloofduty
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 861

                              #15
                              Re: QB Scrambling??

                              Originally posted by TurboTitan
                              Even "scrambling" QB's get absolutely NO rushing yards. Multiple seasons simmed and Lamar Jackson never got over 100yds rushing FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON!!.EA made some descent improvements in areas bit there are WAY too many glaring legacy issues that havent been touched in YEARS.

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                              Yea i think its been 3 years now. Others and myself have been constantly bringing this up for 3 years CONSTANTLY. Wait a year same issue. They said they will look into it but its been 3 years lol.


                              Talking about Qb rushing stats simming games btw.

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