Salary Cap Issues?

[PioneerRaptor]

Not sure if this is a bug, so not posting it currently to the bugs thread.

Anyways, in my online CFM, I'm playing as the Philadelphia Eagles and it says that I have 29.7M in cap space when I go to the salaries tab. However, when Nelson Agholor is up for re-signing, I suddenly don't have any cap room. It defaults to a 4yr/980K contract, which I can't afford.

Is there a way to see the projected cap in future years?

[cmellor780]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

In the salaries tab, its just player salaries. In the offseason, Madden reserves cap space for your rookies so that might be your issue. Especially if you are picking high or have multiple rd 1 picks


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[ShadyFan25]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Look through your potential cap savings and make some cuts. Or "Restructure" someone's contract by cutting them and resigning them to a cheaper deal.

[Hooe]

Salary Cap Issues?

Are you playing as an owner? If so, check if you have enough available funds (not salary cap space, this value is generated by ticket sales / etc.) to cover the total requested signing bonus. If you don’t, that can negatively affect the contract you are able to offer.

[Jimbo12308]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Not sure if this is a bug, so not posting it currently to the bugs thread.

Anyways, in my online CFM, I'm playing as the Philadelphia Eagles and it says that I have 29.7M in cap space when I go to the salaries tab. However, when Nelson Agholor is up for re-signing, I suddenly don't have any cap room. It defaults to a 4yr/980K contract, which I can't afford.

Is there a way to see the projected cap in future years?

I also always play as the Eagles. While it may be really annoying, what I do is go to the salaries page, find the salary figures for the next year (2020), add them all up on my phone 1 at a time, and that’s how I see my salary commitments for future years.

I don’t know for sure, but in M19 I think the salary cap went up by around $5M each year for like 5 years and then stopped (though I could be remembering wrong).

If it’s the same this year then you could add up all your 2020 contracts, add in the dead money for 2020 (I think that’s visible on the salaries page), and add in the rookie reserve, and then subtract that number from the projected salary cap (which might be the same as the current year cap plus around $5M maybe). What’s left over would then hypothetically be pretty close to your available cap space for 2020.

Either way, if the contracts are done accurately then what you’re experiencing isn’t actually that unrealistic. The Eagles are currently about $20mil under the cap, but they have around 35-40 out of 90 current players on the last year of their deal. Despite losing 35-40 contracts after this year, the Eagles will only have a projected $5 million in cap room next year. The remaining players have such a dramatic increase in pay that they are going to have less cap space despite potentially losing 35+ players to free agency. Though that isn’t accounting for any roll-over cap from this year (but the game doesn’t include roll over cap) or any increase in the salary cap (which the game usually does include).

So depending on any dead money penalties you may have gotten from various cuts, the fact that you have no cap room for the 2020 Eagles isn’t entirely unrealistic. Wentz’ new contract ($18.6M 2020 cap hit), Graham’s new deal ($13.4M), Malik Jackson signing ($10M), DeSean Jackson contract ($8.9M), and all the backloaded deals for Cox ($22.8M), Johnson ($13.5M), Jeffrey ($16M), Ertz ($12.2M), Brooks ($11.5M), Jenkins ($10.9M), and Bradham ($9.8M) are taking up a huge part of the 2020 cap space. (Those are their real life 2020 cap hits, in Madden they might not be entirely accurate).

You’ll probably need to wait until the end of the season and then make some cuts to free up cap space to re-sign your departing players. Or make the cuts now and resign early, but then you have to get through the year without those players you cut.

[PioneerRaptor]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Okay, that's what I was thinking, because I did notice that a lot of players are on their contract years, so I was going to wait until the end of the season when I could let some of them go and then re-sign the ones that I want.

I'll look into the cut and re-sign, though I don't know if I want to risk losing a player who refuses to re-sign for whatever reason after being cut.

Sure would be nice to be able to re-do contracts without cutting people.

[Jimbo12308]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Okay, that's what I was thinking, because I did notice that a lot of players are on their contract years, so I was going to wait until the end of the season when I could let some of them go and then re-sign the ones that I want.

I'll look into the cut and re-sign, though I don't know if I want to risk losing a player who refuses to re-sign for whatever reason after being cut.

Sure would be nice to be able to re-do contracts without cutting people.

Remember that if you cut them mid year and then sign them from the free agency pool, it’ll only be for a 1 year contract until the end of the year. If you want to work out a multi-year deal you’ll have to do the re-signing process mid year (but you can’t because you don’t have any cap room unless you start making aggressive cuts now, but that’ll leave you with roster holes) or you can re-sign them at the end of the year right before free agency.

The positive side of re-signing at the end of the year is that you can cut players to make cap room and still have the rest of the offseason to replace those cuts. The negative side of re-signing at the end of the year is that if your negotiation fails, they’ll test free agency where you will then have to compete with the other teams to sign them.

Unless you’ve got some bigger contracts riding the bench that you’re comfortable cutting and saying goodbye to right now, I’d wait until the end of the year to try your resigning.

Remember also to always keep an eye on the release penalty and the “savings” number. If you cut someone with a $9M cap number, but you wind up with $7M in cap penalty and then you replace that person with a $2.5M free agent, then you’ve actually lost cap room ($0.5M).

[PioneerRaptor]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Remember that if you cut them mid year and then sign them from the free agency pool, it’ll only be for a 1 year contract until the end of the year. If you want to work out a multi-year deal you’ll have to do the re-signing process mid year (but you can’t because you don’t have any cap room unless you start making aggressive cuts now, but that’ll leave you with roster holes) or you can re-sign them at the end of the year right before free agency.

The positive side of re-signing at the end of the year is that you can cut players to make cap room and still have the rest of the offseason to replace those cuts. The negative side of re-signing at the end of the year is that if your negotiation fails, they’ll test free agency where you will then have to compete with the other teams to sign them.

Unless you’ve got some bigger contracts riding the bench that you’re comfortable cutting and saying goodbye to right now, I’d wait until the end of the year to try your resigning.

Remember also to always keep an eye on the release penalty and the “savings” number. If you cut someone with a $9M cap number, but you wind up with $7M in cap penalty and then you replace that person with a $2.5M free agent, then you’ve actually lost cap room ($0.5M).

Okay, thank you so much for the information. I'm going to wait until the end of the year, right before free agency. Though, I'll scrub the depth chart and see if there's anyone I'm comfortable with cutting right now as well.

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Just a heads up to everyone for Madden 20- There's going to be TONS of salary cap issues this year because of the way that they handle contracts in this game.

They really fell short in this area, again. All contracts are escalating. So the deals will start small and manageable, but the last 2 years of all deals will be enormous and honestly not possible. Now that kind of stuff happens in the NFL as well, but they're actually able to renegotiate and spread that money out over a few years. In Madden we can't do that.

So if you're the Cowboys and you re-sign Byron Jones, Jaylon Smith, Amari Cooper, Dak, and Zeke you're going to be in some massive trouble. Not immediately of course. If you give them all 5 year deals then you'll have 3 easy years with tons of stars, but when you get to years 4 and 5 on those deals you're going to be cutting everyone else on your roster to try and stay under the cap. And when you do that you're going to get cap penalties because Madden doesn't let you choose how to disperse guaranteed money so players will still have guaranteed money left in their deals in the last few years of their contracts, unlike in real life where only 2-3 years of every deal is guaranteed.

We told them about this in beta. I wrote a super long post about it. And they saw it. They called it out in the beta adjustments stream a week or so ago. But they didn't change anything and we're left with a really terrible system that is 100% broken. In order to get through this years CFM we're going to be doing a lot of manual work on clearing cap penalties to make up for their lazy way of handling contracts. I wish there was more pressure on them to change this, but they literally don't seem to care. Especially after they said, "We’ve taken a meticulous pass on existing player contracts to ensure they match the NFL. This will not only be more authentic, but it will also make managing your roster’s cap space more realistic."

That right there was one of the biggest loads of garbage I have seen EA put out in awhile and it is 100% untrue. It's a bummer that we're left with such a trash system, but it's too late at this point.

[crow082011]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Okay, that's what I was thinking, because I did notice that a lot of players are on their contract years, so I was going to wait until the end of the season when I could let some of them go and then re-sign the ones that I want.

I'll look into the cut and re-sign, though I don't know if I want to risk losing a player who refuses to re-sign for whatever reason after being cut.

Sure would be nice to be able to re-do contracts without cutting people.

Technically you can If you into player and edit there contracts manually.

[Nicholasht571998]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

Also from what I’ve read in real life their is a roll over with the cap which the eagles took advantage of in real life. But in the game it’s nonexistent so that kinda screws us eagles fans wanting to use them without trading or cutting players we wanna keep.

[blackboard79]

Question for the Salary cap experts

Quick Question

I could not find my answer online.



Let say a 4th round pick RB is signed to a normal rookie deal but the team cuts him before the season. Is that rookie still under NFL rules for rookies? Or could he sign a one year deal with new team, rush for 2000 yds and get a huge contract in year 2?

[TheDominator273]

Re: Question for the Salary cap experts

Quick Question

I could not find my answer online.



Let say a 4th round pick RB is signed to a normal rookie deal but the team cuts him before the season. Is that rookie still under NFL rules for rookies? Or could he sign a one year deal with new team, rush for 2000 yds and get a huge contract in year 2?

Once he's been cut (unless claimed on waivers) he can be signed to any deal a team wants to offer. Now in Madden that means only a 1 year deal since you would be signing said player in a time frame where that's all FAs can sign.

[Shosum13]

Re: Salary Cap Issues?

This is a headache in this years game. Don't get me wrong the more realistic contracts are something I've wanted because I always felt that it was to easy to keep all of your players. But this is crazy, how are you going to give us realistic contracts without realistic ways to manage our cap situation? I'm the Eagles in my 32 user franchise and once the first offseason comes around I'm going to need to cut or trade a couple of players just to even have the money to field a full 53 man roster. I hope they keep the more realistic contracts and contract demands but give us options to negotiate restructured contracts with players every year, and options for how the money from the deal is spread out.

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[blackboard79]

Re: Question for the Salary cap experts

Once he's been cut (unless claimed on waivers) he can be signed to any deal a team wants to offer. Now in Madden that means only a 1 year deal since you would be signing said player in a time frame where that's all FAs can sign.

Thanks could not find that answer anywhere.