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  • TannerYoho
    Rookie
    • Mar 2015
    • 136

    #1

    Help me stop getting roasted on defense

    Hey everyone.

    I use the eagles and I just cannot stop the CPU on all madden. It seems they have someone wide open every single play. 400 yards to alex smith, Matt ryan, and 30 to stafford through the 3rd quarter.

    I've tried...

    Cover 2
    Cover 3
    Man to man
    Blitzing

    No matter what I do it seems like every play he finds a wide open reciever, typically due to my safeties not reacting to anything around them and standing in their zone When it's man to man Jesse James is beating even my cornerbacks on slants, outs, and seam routes. How do you guys overcome this? I have lowered CPU QB Accuracy a few notches and still only get about 7 incompletions a game but even those only come when I switch on to hit stick or intercept the ball. If i lower to All Pro I will dominate on offense so I dont want that.

    Any tips?
  • timhere1970
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1810

    #2
    Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

    In my last game i put reaction time to 5 and it kept luck from tearing me up. That was all pro though and could have been placebo. It seems players are slow to react to the ball being thrown let alone cutting away from the pass direction. My access is over but i hope they tune this prior to launch.

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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21554

      #3
      Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

      A few thoughts:

      Call your defense with purpose. Don't mix up your calls just because you can, make sure you know what each defense does and does not do and call it according to what you anticipate your opponent doing. For example, if you're playing against the Falcons, you probably don't want to call too many coverages which will leave Julio Jones with a one-on-one matchup on the perimeter (Cover 4 Quarters, Cover 3 Sky / Match, Cover 1, Cover 0). If the offense calls a lot of 3x1 formations with an awesome WR as the lone receiver, consider calling Cover 6 to bracket that lone receiver. In Franchise, if you know you're going up against an offense which calls a particular passing concept a lot (which you'd see in Weekly Training), don't call pass defenses which are vulnerable to that concept.

      Understand how your defensive front affects your coverage. For example, if you call a 4-3 Normal Cover 3 Sky and the offense comes out in Singleback Doubles (and let's assume the offense hasn't flipped the play, so the tight end is on the offense's right-hand side and the slot receiver is on the offense's left-hand side), your defense is going to align with your weakside linebacker over top of the slot receiver due to how the how the defense is set up to stop the run. If you come out with 4-3 Under Cover 3 Sky vs Singleback Doubles, your free safety will be over top of that slot receiver instead (due to differences in the run fits of 4-3 Under vs 4-3 Normal). Obviously, putting a safety on a wide receiver is a better matchup for your defense.

      Pressure the quarterback. Making a quarterback throwing an inaccurate pass in Madden generally requires that he be under pressure. If you're sending four and not getting to him, you probably need to send more, especially on early downs to try and force the offense into one-dimensional play calls.

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      • Kid OS
        Pro
        • Sep 2016
        • 829

        #4
        Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

        For me, during the beta I had success with blitzing on every single down. The key is that you must understand how defensive concepts work, and you have to be able to create your own plays by using the hot routes and adjustments.

        First, you want to master offensive concepts. Learn the routes and how they work together to get certain players open. Once you understand that, you go and master the defensive concepts that are designed to stop those offensive concepts. After you have a true understanding of what defense is supposed to stop what offense, you have to go and account for your user skill. This is where the blitzes come in. Whatever player you hot route on a blitz, you have to replace his original assignment by usering another defender. This means you now have two assignments for the player you are usering. Once you have two assignments, you now have 2 offensive players that you must keep your eyes on. That also means that the QB is going to be eyeing those two receivers as well. At this point, you have to practice on baiting the QB into throwing the ball to the player you want him to throw it to. You essentially have to leave someone open until the last second. This results in the QB having around 3 seconds to make a decision, or he'll get sacked by the blitzer.

        My defensive concept mostly gives up check down passes to the flats or user interceptions. I hope this works for you.

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        • XxRnSxX
          Rookie
          • Sep 2017
          • 388

          #5
          Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

          Originally posted by timhere1970
          In my last game i put reaction time to 5 and it kept luck from tearing me up. That was all pro though and could have been placebo. It seems players are slow to react to the ball being thrown let alone cutting away from the pass direction. My access is over but i hope they tune this prior to launch.
          Is that working this year, something about the sliders being reversed or something. The reaction time is really bad for user controlled defenses. I am getting killed from WR's going underneath and my DB being brain dead about covering his man.

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          • Hooe
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 21554

            #6
            Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

            One more thought, this is generally more helpful against observant user opponents but it can be useful for you building out your defensive strategy against any opponent: if you have a versatile piece on your defense, maximize his skills.

            For example: I frequently play as the Cowboys. Jaylon Smith is freaking awesome. Outside of the obviously great players (OVR 90+), he might have the most diverse and complete skill set of any defender in the game. He can run sideline to sideline, he can tackle, he can cover tight ends one-on-one, he's not helpless against decent slot receivers, and he can rush the passer with effectiveness.

            If I'm playing a nickel set, I generally play Smith at his natural middle linebacker position and drop him into coverage. In my base defense, however (particularly if I'm playing an over or under front which puts a linebacker on the line of scrimmage), I slide Smith over to outside linebacker to put an extra threat on the edge. Based on what the offense does, I hot route Smith to zone, blitz, or man up someone. He's basically the queen on the chess board for my defense.

            I will be very sad if he gets hurt whenever I start my Cowboys franchise, lol.

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            • timhere1970
              MVP
              • Sep 2013
              • 1810

              #7
              Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

              Originally posted by XxRnSxX
              Is that working this year, something about the sliders being reversed or something. The reaction time is really bad for user controlled defenses. I am getting killed from WR's going underneath and my DB being brain dead about covering his man.
              It seemed to but it was just one game. Worth testing though.

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              • binga30
                Rookie
                • Jan 2012
                • 359

                #8
                Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

                Does anyone have a self made playbook that kind of shows the offensive formations and what they are designed for, and then the defensive formations that are designed to stop said offensive formations? If love to learn this myself some day, but with limited time would appreciate any sort of cheat sheet available.

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                • xCoachDx
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 1295

                  #9
                  Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

                  Originally posted by binga30
                  Does anyone have a self made playbook that kind of shows the offensive formations and what they are designed for, and then the defensive formations that are designed to stop said offensive formations? If love to learn this myself some day, but with limited time would appreciate any sort of cheat sheet available.

                  Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk


                  Brief Summary:

                  On defense, look to see what personnel your opponent is using. How many backs, TE’s, and WR’s. This gives you an idea of what defense to put in. Usually the number of WR’s the babe gives you a good idea of what to line up in.

                  2 WR = Your bass 3-4 or 4-3, depending on what you run.
                  3 WR = Nickel. Takes out one of your Linebackers and brings in another DB.
                  4 WR = Dime. Takes out a 2nd Linebacker for a 4th DB.

                  Obviously that’s just a brief overview. Is this the kind of stuff you’re looking for?


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                  • binga30
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 359

                    #10
                    Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

                    Originally posted by xCoachDx
                    Brief Summary:

                    On defense, look to see what personnel your opponent is using. How many backs, TE’s, and WR’s. This gives you an idea of what defense to put in. Usually the number of WR’s the babe gives you a good idea of what to line up in.

                    2 WR = Your bass 3-4 or 4-3, depending on what you run.
                    3 WR = Nickel. Takes out one of your Linebackers and brings in another DB.
                    4 WR = Dime. Takes out a 2nd Linebacker for a 4th DB.

                    Obviously that’s just a brief overview. Is this the kind of stuff you’re looking for?


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                    Perfect, thank you. I generally do something similar but was wondering if there was a pre-made guide that I could print out for in game reference. I may just have to button up and make it myself.

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                    • XxKnicksRules215xX
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 1815

                      #11
                      Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

                      Originally posted by timhere1970
                      It seemed to but it was just one game. Worth testing though.
                      Will do, GameStop is releasing the game @ 9pm, I’ll try it out tonight.

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                      • 3Tears
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 69

                        #12
                        Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

                        I lowered CPU ACC to 25 and have gotten some realistic comp. %s. I put it all the way down to 5 for CPU and CPU Carr was atrocious. At one point was 6/16 and couldn't hit a 3 yard crosser. Mind you this was me as Texans and I had just played the Raiders as the Texans on all madden default and Carr was 39/42 400 and 3. I've played against the Dolphins numerous times with different teams to see if Fitzmagic lights me up on different CPU ACC settings and sure enough at default with me as Cowboys he was roasting me. Replayed the game at 35 QB ACC and he was 75%. Prior to that game I played as Chargers vs Dolphins on 25 CPU ACC and he was 65% so Im thinking 25 is where I'll stay at and see if the elite passers still go robo on me or if its good.

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                        • ODogg
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #13
                          Re: Help me stop getting roasted on defense

                          You're playing on All-Madden is why, it cheats and is unrealistic. Go back to All-pro and adjust sliders as needed


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