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  • Alter Eg0
    Rookie
    • Feb 2011
    • 71

    #1

    Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

    Looking at YouTube videos, hiding rookies traits mean nothing! I was really excited to hear that if I'm poop with Haskins he'll be normal dev or if I light it up he'll have a chance to be a superstar w/ X-Factors. But no, nothing happens. EA just playing peel-a-boo with player traits for no damn season smh.
  • XtremeDunkz
    CNFL Commissioner
    • Aug 2007
    • 3414

    #2
    Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

    It is completely useless. You can see the players dev at any point in the edit player screen, and when you draft a player they do the flex animation giving away their dev right away. Complete and utter useless feature.
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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21554

      #3
      Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

      Originally posted by XtremeDunkz
      You can see the players dev at any point in the edit player screen
      You could just, y'know, exercise some restraint and not do this. By this same argument, scouting is useless because we can edit draft classes, and player progression is also useless because we can edit player ratings. EA isn't responsible for you ruining your own fun.

      I assume the draft selection flex animation thing will be fixed soon, as I agree that that's a dumb oversight.

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      • Nickda55
        Rookie
        • Jul 2012
        • 341

        #4
        Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

        From what I understand, when you draft a player and they do their animation (flexing one arm, or two arms) subsequently reveals their dev trait to you.

        I heard they're patching it though, which is good news!

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        • Jimbo12308
          Rookie
          • Aug 2014
          • 177

          #5
          Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

          Even if they don’t fix the flex issue you can easily just look away/close your eyes when you make the pick. After that moment you’ll never be able to see the Dev trait again until you either hit the required snaps or choose to cheat and go to edit player screen.

          Not ideal that you have to remember to not look at the flex animation, but it certainly doesn’t break the feature. Still love that you have to try out your rookies to find out if you have a gem or not.

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          • XtremeDunkz
            CNFL Commissioner
            • Aug 2007
            • 3414

            #6
            Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

            Originally posted by Jimbo12308
            Even if they don’t fix the flex issue you can easily just look away/close your eyes when you make the pick. After that moment you’ll never be able to see the Dev trait again until you either hit the required snaps or choose to cheat and go to edit player screen.

            Not ideal that you have to remember to not look at the flex animation, but it certainly doesn’t break the feature. Still love that you have to try out your rookies to find out if you have a gem or not.
            for single player, sure. For 32 man online leagues its useless.
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            • toodles2you90
              Pro
              • Apr 2018
              • 501

              #7
              Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

              I think my issue with it right now is that if they are hidden, it seems they are at least a Star player. If they are normal then it shows right away. I've only randomly looked at it though so maybe thats not correct.

              I hope they go the NHL sports approach eventually and make you have to play players to get their true ratings/potential. It would make preseason much more important.

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              • XtremeDunkz
                CNFL Commissioner
                • Aug 2007
                • 3414

                #8
                Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                Originally posted by toodles2you90
                I think my issue with it right now is that if they are hidden, it seems they are at least a Star player. If they are normal then it shows right away. I've only randomly looked at it though so maybe thats not correct.

                I hope they go the NHL sports approach eventually and make you have to play players to get their true ratings/potential. It would make preseason much more important.
                Right which is a reason I never understood the point of it from the beginning. You know for a fact they are a higher value player. So its not like you will cut them or not play them.

                By hiding normal dev as well it puts some risk in to cutting those 6th and 7th rounders and maybe gets them some play. But you can still just easily cut the scrubs right after the draft.

                As the Madden saying goes..... Maybe next year.
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                • SoonerSports
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 236

                  #9
                  Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                  The snap counter keeps getting reset in my Cardinals franchise
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                  • DeuceDouglas
                    Madden Dev Team
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4297

                    #10
                    Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                    Originally posted by SoonerSports
                    The snap counter keeps getting reset in my Cardinals franchise
                    What starting point did you use? I've been coming across a bunch of issues with snap counts counting and accruing but haven't been able to figure out the cause. I started a Jets franchise, and no defensive players across the entire league were accruing snaps. Then after I simmed a couple games, all the snaps from the simmed games counted but as soon as I played, they started resetting each week. After that I started a Titans franchise and every week I play everybodys' snap count resets and only counts the week prior.

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                    • SoonerSports
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 236

                      #11
                      Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                      Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                      What starting point did you use? I've been coming across a bunch of issues with snap counts counting and accruing but haven't been able to figure out the cause. I started a Jets franchise, and no defensive players across the entire league were accruing snaps. Then after I simmed a couple games, all the snaps from the simmed games counted but as soon as I played, they started resetting each week. After that I started a Titans franchise and every week I play everybodys' snap count resets and only counts the week prior.
                      I started from Preseason
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                      • sinthros
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 531

                        #12
                        Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                        Window dressing at its finest. Seriously.

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                        • canes21
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 22903

                          #13
                          Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                          Originally posted by XtremeDunkz
                          Right which is a reason I never understood the point of it from the beginning. You know for a fact they are a higher value player. So its not like you will cut them or not play them.

                          By hiding normal dev as well it puts some risk in to cutting those 6th and 7th rounders and maybe gets them some play. But you can still just easily cut the scrubs right after the draft.

                          As the Madden saying goes..... Maybe next year.
                          And this is why if you want to try and implement Fog of War, or any feature/addition, into your game, then you should not do it in a half-baked way. The initial implementation looks bad and just turns most off of what the end goal was in the first place. It's similar to how the scenario engine is receiving heat all around because CPU teams are not affected by it and so many scenarios are just making no sense, others are broken because they don't take injuries into account.
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                          • toodles2you90
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 501

                            #14
                            Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                            I went in and edited a rookie from Normal to Star and his Dev Trait went from showing Normal to showing Hidden.

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                            • StoneWallace17
                              Rookie
                              • May 2013
                              • 192

                              #15
                              Re: Hidden Dev Traits mean nothing???

                              Does it at least get unhidden if you play all the way to the next season? I haven't played far enough in a franchise to know, and simming weeks seems to actually progress them properly unlike playing games so not an easy way to check.

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