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  • archanax
    Pro
    • Jan 2005
    • 533

    #361
    Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

    Originally posted by Krebstar
    August Updates

    I've played around with some updates for several weeks now after taking a long break, but I'm back to playing a few different CMs and enjoying these updates as of now. Nothing big, just trying to get the game to play slightly better, slightly more realistic, and overall a realistic pace.

    Here is what was adjusted from the OP:

    Sprint: 35/35
    Acceleration: 51/51
    Shot Error: 70/69
    Pass Error: 59/68
    Pass Speed: 37/12
    GK Ability: 55/55
    Line Height: 68/68
    Line Length: 20/20
    Line Width: 45/45
    First Touch Control: 96/96

    Here's the entire set:


    I'll update the OP soon.
    Hey Kreb !!! I'm glad to see you back !!!

    I directly tested your sliders not in CM but in several exhibition games with different teams because I was also trying to make small adjustements on my side.

    Well, in fact I don't know what to think about these small adjustements you made because it changed radicaly the game. I will list the different points:

    PRO:
    - pace of the game is increased. I like the reactivity of the player on the field (mainly due to accel at 51)
    - the ball which is more loose. We can really notice that players don't control at 100% the ball (mainly due to FT at 96).

    CONS:
    - the increases of the pace of the game (acceleration) and the bad ball touches (FT) induces less varieties from cpu in passes. when they catch the ball, it's more difficult for them to control it resulting in more short ground passes that long ones and especially long ones. They can't do their animation panels at this moment and prefer to pass to someone else. Most of the time, when they are in their defensive field, they prefer to pass in triangle a lot before making an "escaping" pass.
    - bad touches (FT) also induce a lot more loss of possession. Example: when a CPU player catches the ball, the high value of FT combined to an increase of the acceleration push the cpu player to make a mistake with the ball that can easily be taken by our player (even not by a tackle). As a consequence, there are less tackles, less fouls but also more weird actions (best example is when I was around a corner side and did a ground pass to my other teamate, cpu interecepted it but couldn't control it and scored against his goal. It happens more than one time in several matchs...)
    - because of all this, pass accuracy also suffers and for teams around 85-90 like real madrid, they finally get a 70-75% pass accuracy stats. Smaller teams even get less than 70%...
    - finally, this update causes more counter attack than we the previous set, resulting in less midfield battles. The bad touches and "maybe" the value of the lines (but I don't think that this value impacts that much) induce bad controls, more interception resulting in more counter attacks. As an example, I finished games with barcelona or arsenal vs Real madrid or man city with scores like 3-0, 4-0, 3-1, 5-0. (So high scores due to this counter attach that unleashed offensive players but also due to mistakes from cpu close to their own net)

    On my side, I think I'm gonna stay on the previous set. Gonna however test 4-5 more matchs.

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    • Krebstar
      is looking at stats.
      • May 2005
      • 12904

      #362
      Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

      Originally posted by archanax
      Hey Kreb !!! I'm glad to see you back !!!



      I directly tested your sliders not in CM but in several exhibition games with different teams because I was also trying to make small adjustements on my side.



      Well, in fact I don't know what to think about these small adjustements you made because it changed radicaly the game. I will list the different points:



      PRO:

      - pace of the game is increased. I like the reactivity of the player on the field (mainly due to accel at 51)

      - the ball which is more loose. We can really notice that players don't control at 100% the ball (mainly due to FT at 96).



      CONS:

      - the increases of the pace of the game (acceleration) and the bad ball touches (FT) induces less varieties from cpu in passes. when they catch the ball, it's more difficult for them to control it resulting in more short ground passes that long ones and especially long ones. They can't do their animation panels at this moment and prefer to pass to someone else. Most of the time, when they are in their defensive field, they prefer to pass in triangle a lot before making an "escaping" pass.

      - bad touches (FT) also induce a lot more loss of possession. Example: when a CPU player catches the ball, the high value of FT combined to an increase of the acceleration push the cpu player to make a mistake with the ball that can easily be taken by our player (even not by a tackle). As a consequence, there are less tackles, less fouls but also more weird actions (best example is when I was around a corner side and did a ground pass to my other teamate, cpu interecepted it but couldn't control it and scored against his goal. It happens more than one time in several matchs...)

      - because of all this, pass accuracy also suffers and for teams around 85-90 like real madrid, they finally get a 70-75% pass accuracy stats. Smaller teams even get less than 70%...

      - finally, this update causes more counter attack than we the previous set, resulting in less midfield battles. The bad touches and "maybe" the value of the lines (but I don't think that this value impacts that much) induce bad controls, more interception resulting in more counter attacks. As an example, I finished games with barcelona or arsenal vs Real madrid or man city with scores like 3-0, 4-0, 3-1, 5-0. (So high scores due to this counter attach that unleashed offensive players but also due to mistakes from cpu close to their own net)



      On my side, I think I'm gonna stay on the previous set. Gonna however test 4-5 more matchs.

      I don’t think there are radical changes (I don't believe incremental adjustments yeild massive swings in gameplay), and I think if we look for examples of what adjustments are doing, we’ll find them even if they do not exist. A sort of confirmation bias, really.

      I’ve seen the AI playing quicker shorter passes to each other, too many, long before I made these updates.

      I’m not seeing too low of AI pass accuracy, but I also do not rely on those numbers. The same way you can’t rely on the “saves” statistic as they’ll count a shot off target as a save for a keeper.

      As usual, I’m not wed to these and will most likely adjust again, but I’ve seen positive things.

      I destroyed Real Madrid with Atletico, but in the next game lost 1-0 at Anfield I’m one of the best games I’ve had all year.

      Also, my goal was to slow down the game, and I think I did. If you think the game was sped up, I think it just shows we’re looking at things and interpreting them very differently, which is fine as none of us will play the same at all.

      I’ll keep playing over the next few days, and might put things back where they were—gotta tinker.

      There is, of course, a history of me trying something and you then setting me back on track.
      Last edited by Krebstar; 08-12-2019, 09:05 AM.

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      • flaydagawd
        Rookie
        • Mar 2019
        • 7

        #363
        Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

        Originally posted by Krebstar
        August Updates

        I've played around with some updates for several weeks now after taking a long break, but I'm back to playing a few different CMs and enjoying these updates as of now. Nothing big, just trying to get the game to play slightly better, slightly more realistic, and overall a realistic pace.

        Here is what was adjusted from the OP:

        Sprint: 35/35
        Acceleration: 51/51
        Shot Error: 70/69
        Pass Error: 59/68
        Pass Speed: 37/12
        GK Ability: 55/55
        Line Height: 68/68
        Line Length: 20/20
        Line Width: 45/45
        First Touch Control: 96/96

        Here's the entire set:

        Sprint: 35/35
        Acceleration: 51/51
        Shot Error: 70/69
        Pass Error: 59/68
        Shot Speed: 49/49
        Pass Speed: 37/12
        GK Ability: 55/55
        Marking: 45/45
        Run Frequency: 0/0
        Line Height: 68/68
        Line Length: 20/20
        Line Width: 45/45
        Fullback Positioning: 10/10
        First Touch Control: 96/96

        I'll update the OP soon.
        Hey Kreb

        Are you still using the same controller setting as in the OP? (I used then for a while but then switched to full manual for a challenge, yeah I know this isnt what I shouldnt look for)

        Thanka for these sliders btw

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        • Krebstar
          is looking at stats.
          • May 2005
          • 12904

          #364
          Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

          Originally posted by flaydagawd
          Hey Kreb

          Are you still using the same controller setting as in the OP? (I used then for a while but then switched to full manual for a challenge, yeah I know this isnt what I shouldnt look for)

          Thanka for these sliders btw
          I sure am. I used to be all manual, but I take too many breaks now and it would take me too long to get the feeling again.

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          • torpedoceltic
            Rookie
            • Jun 2015
            • 5

            #365
            Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

            Originally posted by flaydagawd
            Hey Kreb

            Are you still using the same controller setting as in the OP? (I used then for a while but then switched to full manual for a challenge, yeah I know this isnt what I shouldnt look for)

            Thanka for these sliders btw
            what power bar setting do you use, whenever I play manual the passes mostly fall too short, maybe its my control pad that's broken and not the game.

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            • torpedoceltic
              Rookie
              • Jun 2015
              • 5

              #366
              Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

              Originally posted by Krebstar
              August Updates

              I've played around with some updates for several weeks now after taking a long break, but I'm back to playing a few different CMs and enjoying these updates as of now. Nothing big, just trying to get the game to play slightly better, slightly more realistic, and overall a realistic pace.

              Here is what was adjusted from the OP:

              Sprint: 35/35
              Acceleration: 51/51
              Shot Error: 70/69
              Pass Error: 59/68
              Pass Speed: 37/12
              GK Ability: 55/55
              Line Height: 68/68
              Line Length: 20/20
              Line Width: 45/45
              First Touch Control: 96/96

              Here's the entire set:

              Sprint: 35/35
              Acceleration: 51/51
              Shot Error: 70/69
              Pass Error: 59/68
              Shot Speed: 49/49
              Pass Speed: 37/12
              GK Ability: 55/55
              Marking: 45/45
              Run Frequency: 0/0
              Line Height: 68/68
              Line Length: 20/20
              Line Width: 45/45
              Fullback Positioning: 10/10
              First Touch Control: 96/96

              I'll update the OP soon.
              I think it plays more fluently like football these days but I havnt played enough to know the difference, the thing that stuck out for me though is the increased acceleration, although it looks good I have found from experience it can make it easier to get by defenders, the thing I liked best about your sliders is the one on one aspect, im not sure what difference this makes though but ill try tomorrow, I had shot as Chelsea earlier but I usually go celtic so ill need to play as celtic to know if it is positive or negative but I found the game as Chelsea against Juventus fairly easy although it was a group game, ive not played this game since I bought the thing at release date but im thinking maybe the group games are more layed back than the knockout rounds?

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              • Krebstar
                is looking at stats.
                • May 2005
                • 12904

                #367
                Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                I'm now completely iffy on the updates I posted, but still iffy on the previous set. I'm trying some different things now just for fun to see just how different I can get the game to play. Kind of a, one last shot at making it even better before the newest release.

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                • atlaswa
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2019
                  • 11

                  #368
                  Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                  Hello, I have some questions about sliders.
                  1- In exhibition/kick off mode vs our friend if we change sliders for cpu gameplay, does it affect only
                  cpu opponent or it affects also cpu ai in user team which user is not controlling at that moment?
                  2- In exhibition mode if I switch to Goalkeeper mode and let ai play game, does cpu sliders affect those ai players
                  because it is user vs user in exhibition mode but my cpu ai controlled players make runs, shoot etc.
                  Thank you for your advices.

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                  • torpedoceltic
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 5

                    #369
                    Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                    Originally posted by atlaswa
                    Hello, I have some questions about sliders.
                    1- In exhibition/kick off mode vs our friend if we change sliders for cpu gameplay, does it affect only
                    cpu opponent or it affects also cpu ai in user team which user is not controlling at that moment?
                    2- In exhibition mode if I switch to Goalkeeper mode and let ai play game, does cpu sliders affect those ai players
                    because it is user vs user in exhibition mode but my cpu ai controlled players make runs, shoot etc.
                    Thank you for your advices.
                    the cpu sliders affect the cpu teams, if you have any humans in the team it wont be affected by the cpu sliders but the user sliders. if you switch to goalkeeper mode its still the user sliders that affect the cpu players in your team

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                    • atlaswa
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2019
                      • 11

                      #370
                      Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                      Originally posted by torpedoceltic
                      the cpu sliders affect the cpu teams, if you have any humans in the team it wont be affected by the cpu sliders but the user sliders. if you switch to goalkeeper mode its still the user sliders that affect the cpu players in your team
                      thanks for precise answer man, I thought cpu sliders were affecting cpu players(ai controlled players in human team) in human/user team. so I think it was placebo affect because when I changed cpu slider for shoot speed shoot accuracy, it looked like cpu players were shooting so fast and accurate when I use goalkeeper and let cpu player shoot

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                      • archanax
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 533

                        #371
                        Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                        Krebs, any news? update?

                        Do you plan to buy fifa 20 ?

                        On my side, I'm still using your set and still love it

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                        • Krebstar
                          is looking at stats.
                          • May 2005
                          • 12904

                          #372
                          Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                          Originally posted by archanax
                          Krebs, any news? update?

                          Do you plan to buy fifa 20 ?

                          On my side, I'm still using your set and still love it
                          I'm done with FIFA 19 for now—just got too caught up in trying something new, but never quite got it, and got way busier with work.

                          As of now, I'll most likely get 20 and take a very similar approach—possibly even diving back into my roots of using custom tactics—we'll see.

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                          • Jeffrey B
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2018
                            • 55

                            #373
                            Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                            Originally posted by Krebstar
                            I'm done with FIFA 19 for now—just got too caught up in trying something new, but never quite got it, and got way busier with work.

                            As of now, I'll most likely get 20 and take a very similar approach—possibly even diving back into my roots of using custom tactics—we'll see.
                            Me too. I do understand the demands of work.i admit I’m being selfish here but I hope you do put out some slider work. I really enjoyed what goundid with 19

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                            • 1899 Hoffenheim
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 61

                              #374
                              Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                              Hello Krebstar, I really enjoyed your work for Fifa19. It made it realistic for me.
                              Am really thinking about using these sets towards Fifa20 and see what happens

                              Sent from my SM-N960U using Operation Sports mobile app

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                              • 1899 Hoffenheim
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 61

                                #375
                                Re: Krebstar's FIFA 19 Professional & World Cup Sliders

                                Sent from my SM-N960U using Operation Sports mobile app

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