Fumbles are out of control

[booker21]

If you are a sim player you already noticed this. I understand devs want to punish h2h players when they scramble with the QB but this is impacting sim players, specially user/cpu

1.- enforcers are key but they are not the only issue here. In this game MLB from panthers is the only enforcer in the game.

2.-yes. We do use L1 but even then players fumble too much. Also cpu does not run with l1 until late in the 4th quarter

3.- if they want to leave the risk reward for h2h why not make the change for sim mode.

4.- this is avg 110 plays combined. Little short from NFL avg and spot on with sim sim engine

5.- fumble slider while improve it does not fix the issue. Also the fumble slider does affect other part of the game.








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[Swagger Jack]

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I know it's not ALL the X-Factor players fault....but it mostly is. I had a game vs the Falcons and they have an X-Factor safety I kid you not this dude forced a fumble on 4 consecutive drives. Glad you have photo evidence because the EA Justice Coalition would have been in here in 2 seconds saying "Oh cover the ball" or "Oh you're overreacting" Meanwhile you got a thread running right next to this saying how "awesome these abilities are" and again its not just the xfactor players that are just non-stop hit sticking dudes....moral of the story there's no way you DON'T notice this if you play sim...I mean it's crazy.

[Tcoy1]

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I agree its like playing on cartoon level. Landon Collins is averaging 5 FF a game .
Hope it can be adjusted cause sliders on fumbles are worthless

[Matt10]

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In my testing lowering fatigue to 40 and Zero helped vs those enforcers. Of course you lose that realism factor in fatigue/subs, etc.

Raising the fumble slider definitely helps, but the value needs to be pretty high. You do lose a little bit of the CPU running ability because they seem to be afraid to take hits versus go forwards.

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[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Fumbles are out of control

Coaching adjustment - set to conservative.

Cover ball before being tackled.

Slide when running as a QB.

Apparently, the majority of fumbles are from QBs.

[Chubzdoomer]

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Apparently, the majority of fumbles are from QBs.

Not really. I'm seeing a TON of fumbles from RBs and receivers.

The "Cover Ball" command barely helps, if at all. It doesn't seem to take effect immediately when the button is pressed, so even if you prepare for a hit and mash it, it'll often have no effect what-so-ever. This is most easily observed when taking a big hit as a receiver who's just caught the ball.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Re: Fumbles are out of control

Not really. I'm seeing a TON of fumbles from RBs and receivers.

The "Cover Ball" command barely helps, if at all. It doesn't seem to take effect immediately when the button is pressed, so even if you prepare for a hit and mash it, it'll often have no effect what-so-ever. This is most easily observed when taking a big hit as a receiver who's just caught the ball.

Getting hit immediately after making a catch has a tendency to cause fumbles.

I rarely fumble so I am not sure how people are playing that causes them to fumble. I play competitive and on All-Pro

[UnderRatedCoast]

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Not really. I'm seeing a TON of fumbles from RBs and receivers.

The "Cover Ball" command barely helps, if at all. It doesn't seem to take effect immediately when the button is pressed, so even if you prepare for a hit and mash it, it'll often have no effect what-so-ever. This is most easily observed when taking a big hit as a receiver who's just caught the ball.

Yeah I mostly fumble with the RB and I'm constantly using L1. I have understanding with a qb fumbling when he gets smoked but Melvin Gordon is my RB and he led the league in fumbles last year by twice any computer player and is leading again on my current season.

[Hooe]

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Yeah I mostly fumble with the RB and I'm constantly using L1. I have understanding with a qb fumbling when he gets smoked but Melvin Gordon is my RB and he led the league in fumbles last year by twice any computer player and is leading again on my current season.

As a heads-up: L1 is lateral.

Tap R1 is switch ball hand, and hold R1 is Cover Ball.

[johnhughthom]

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I didn't even know there was an option to cover the ball, because you simply didn't need to use it before. After struggling with fumbles just after release, I have no issues whatsoever now I use cover before I get hit.

[roadman]

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Yeah, I've seen those fumbles especially with Enforcers, but I started a new franchise and I'm 4 games in and there has only been 2 fumbles recorded.

I'm cpu vs user all pro 10 minute quarters using sliders in the slider forum.

[Richie71]

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I got fed up with it. 4+ a game happening two often. Playing as Dallas, Zeke averaging a fumble a game.

So I just turned human fumbles up to 90 and CPU to 70 (All Madden, simulation) and it's more playable now.

[booker21]

Re: Fumbles are out of control

Coaching adjustment - set to conservative.

Cover ball before being tackled.

Slide when running as a QB.

Apparently, the majority of fumbles are from QBs.

1.- We shouldn't be needing to use the Coaching adjustment - set to conservative to get realistic play, those should be use on specific scenarios not to fix an issue with the game.

2.- Issue is happening on both teams, as you can see on the screenshots. CPU does not cover the ball neither use the adjustment

3.- In the last 20 maddens this is the first one who have issues with fumbles, this is not a legacy issue. It's so obvious they tune this for h2h comp players and not user/cpu sim players. NFL Blitz had fewer fumbles than madden 20.

[Instant C1a55ic]

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Armour has it in his slider thread to set user fumble to 70, and for me it worked. Just played a game and instead of coughing it up every 3-4 plays against Collins, I didnt fumble at all.

Still annoying that every tackle is a hit stick type. That's annoying.

[timhere1970]

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Armour has it in his slider thread to set user fumble to 70, and for me it worked. Just played a game and instead of coughing it up every 3-4 plays against Collins, I didnt fumble at all.

Still annoying that every tackle is a hit stick type. That's annoying.

The hit sticking is way overdone. I have devin bush but might as well have the incredible hulk out there. In simulation hit sticking should be used to bust up a pass and i have actually managed to tune the game to get quite a bit of hits on the receiver and knocking it loose. In the running game people should tackle not hit stick almost always.