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  • antdoggydogg
    Rookie
    • Sep 2011
    • 610

    #1

    AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

    XBOX ONE
    Gamertag: Antdoggydogg
    Roster File name: 2K20 POE's and More

    I've attached screenshots of the POE settings for non Xbox users to copy. As well as a comparison of real life 2019 stats to what stats will look like using these POEs. There are a couple areas that need improving but those are mostly player tendencies, need to figure that out.

    When using these settings I highly suggest adjusting your MyLeague stat distribution sliders to be:
    Offensive Rebounding 32
    Defensive Rebounding 22


    This helps better distribute rebounds to your guards in a more realistic way.

    Improvements:
    - Points of Emphasis settings for modern and classic teams, for the most accurate Simulated stats
    - Updated Coach Offense and Defense Grades
    - Advanced Rotations for all 30 teams and the Classic Teams
    - Accurate/more consistent ratings for steals, blocks and rebounds.
    - Accurate/more consistent Athleticism ratings. (Lateral Quickness, Speed, Speed w/Ball, Strength, Vertical)
    - Accurate Height Adjustments
    - Badge Updates
    - Updated Rosters/Ratings for Classic Teams/All-Time Teams

    Athletecism Ratings:
    If there is a center that can run a 3.4 during a 3/4 court sprint at the draft combine, he should be rated the same as a guard who runs a 3.4. On the official 2K rosters, Al Horford's Speed and Speed w/ Ball ratings takes away this part of his unique skill set: https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/vid...beautiful-dunk

    Al Horford on the official 2K rosters:
    Speed: 53
    Speed with Ball: 33

    Antdoggydogg rosters:
    Speed: 83
    Speed with Ball: 73

    With my ratings you will be able to lead a break with Al Horford without looking like you're in slow motion.

    Height Adjustments:
    - Joel Embiid is 7'1
    - Durant is 6'11
    - Dennis Rodman is now 6'7 on all teams, previously was 6'8 on some teams.
    - Jerry West is 6'4 not 6'2 (he's said it himself and you can see pics of him standing next to Kobe/Wade).
    - Robert Horry is 6'9, 2K previously had him fluctuating between 6'9 and 6'10 in different years.
    - Keith Erickson is 6'5, 2K previously had him as 6'0.
    - Dwight Howard is 6'11


    Classic Team Updates:
    - Darrall Imhoff added to 1965 Lakers via Historic Draft Classes
    - Jason Collins added to 2002 Nets via Historic Draft Classes
    - Bill Russell Rebounding ratings updated

    Badge Updates:

    Some badges are too overpowering this year, both in gameplay and in simulated stats. I saw 2001 Kobe average 40 points on 60% during an entire season. my changes will result in major reductions to some of the badges, all based on real stats. Whatever can be quantified should now be realistically represented. Now you won't have issues with every double digit rebounder being a Box and Worm god. Those are specific skills that only some players have shown, and it's all been tracked using advanced stats. So far I've updated the following badges for modern teams, and will be doing the same to classic teams:

    Tear Dropper
    Slippery Off Ball
    Pick and Popper
    Pick and Roller
    Rim Protector
    Box
    Worm
    Defensive Leader



    Updated Signature Styles:

    Elgin Baylor (signature head twitch/fake)
    Jayston Tatum jumpshot

    Tendencies:
    Greg Oden 3 point tendencies lowered drastically.

    Top 10 Players on my Roster:
    For fun here is a list of the current top 10 players on my roster after applying the mentioned edits, I expect some to change even more once I apply other changes:

    98 Kawhi Leonard (his Intangibles rating was too low at 70, compared to 98 for other stars)
    97 LeBron James
    96 Anthony Davis (switched his primary position to PF, secondary as C)
    96 Kevin Durant (no post achilles injury changes made, we'll have to see)
    95 Stephen Curry
    93 Giannis Antetekounmpo (switched primary position to PF, the position he plays the most)
    93 James Harden (his Intangibles rating was too high at 98)
    92 Damian Lillard
    92 Paul George
    91 Joel Embiid
    Attached Files
    Last edited by antdoggydogg; 04-22-2020, 03:53 PM.
  • CaseIH
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 3945

    #2
    Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

    Thanks for posting this. Also I enjoy reading your spreadsheet, alot of good info there, and its well organized
    Everyone who exalts themselves will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted- Luke14-11

    Favorite teams:
    MLB- Reds/ and whoever is playing the Cubs
    NBA- Pacers
    NFL- Dolphins & Colts

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    • antdoggydogg
      Rookie
      • Sep 2011
      • 610

      #3
      Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

      Updates:

      Created Advanced Rotations for all historic teams and current teams.
      These will automatically change if your team suffers injuries/trades but works great for Play Now.

      Edited all athleticism attributes to be consistent across the league
      Using real life draft combine measurements. 2K seems to use the same formula for some players but lowers every thing for big men even if they run the same speed as guards in real life. I made it so that in general acceleration speeds for bigs are slower than guards. Also have an athletic decline calculator that I use for players of a certain age, they lose an attribute point in speed, lateral quickness and vertical every passing year so that's been applied to all 2020 teams. Pretty accurate.

      Added Darrall Imhoff to the 1965 Lakers
      He exists in the Historic Draft Classes but not in the official 2K roster.

      Signature Style Updates
      • Elgin Baylor
      • Jayson Tatum


      Fixed any height discrepancies
      • Joel Embiid is 7'2
      • Durant is 6'11
      • Dennis Rodman is now 6'7 on all teams, previously was 6'8 on some teams.
      • Jerry West is 6'4 not 6'2 (he's said it himself and you can see pics of him standing next to Kobe/Wade).
      • Robert Horry is 6'9, 2K previously had him fluctuating between 6'9 and 6'10 in different years.
      • Keith Erickson is 6'5, 2K previously had him as 6'0.


      Going to do some MyLeague testing before uploading first official POE roster.

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      • taildog
        MVP
        • Jun 2008
        • 1161

        #4
        Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

        Are your advanced rotations uploaded on 2kshare? Are those regular season or playoffs?
        NBA 2K23 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

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        • lordflaecko
          Rookie
          • Oct 2017
          • 34

          #5
          Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

          Is there a link for a spreadsheet for this? So I can integrate it on PC users? Thank you

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          • ShamWowNY
            Rookie
            • Dec 2011
            • 257

            #6
            Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

            Originally posted by lordflaecko
            Is there a link for a spreadsheet for this? So I can integrate it on PC users? Thank you
            I'm also a PC user who would love to port this - I use your POE's every year!
            Retired: Off to the Races || Indiana Pacers (2K23) | Watch The Throne || Sacramento Kings (2K22)

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            • antdoggydogg
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 610

              #7
              Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

              I'll be uploading to 2Kshare this week once I finalize the POE's for the coming season. Once that's done I will upload a graphic with all the POEs in the first post of this thread and will also link a spreadsheet for my rosters soon. It's cool to see so many people use my POEs!

              Advanced rotations for 2020 teams are based on predicted minutes distribution for the coming regular season and include any obvious substitution patterns that the teams coach regularly uses. For example Brett Brown staggers Embiid and Simmons minutes, he takes Embiid out early and brings him back in to play with the Bench while Simmons sits. And this year they will probably slide Horford to the 5 when Embiid goes to the bench so I made sure that happens too. That is one of the more well known substitution patterns, if I'm missing anything notable for a team you closely follow then fill me in.

              Advanced rotations for classic teams are based on a mixture of regular season minutes and playoff minutes. I tried to pay close attention to which 5 man units closed out games. Fortunately there is data on this for all teams from 2001 to present day.

              Keep in mind advanced rotations are really sensitive, I waived a 15th man once and it reset the whole thing. So it's mostly useful for Play Now modes. Once you enter a season, all sorts of moves are made, G-League call ups/downs etc and the whole rotation is reset.
              Last edited by antdoggydogg; 09-19-2019, 04:01 PM.

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              • antdoggydogg
                Rookie
                • Sep 2011
                • 610

                #8
                Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                The roster is now live on Xbox. Updated the original post with all the information as well as screenshots of statistical comparisons.

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                • antdoggydogg
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 610

                  #9
                  Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                  Top 10 Players on my Roster:
                  For fun here is a list of the current top 10 players on my roster after applying the mentioned edits, I expect some to change even more once I apply other changes:

                  98 Kawhi Leonard (his Intangibles rating was too low at 70, compared to 98 for other stars)
                  97 LeBron James
                  96 Anthony Davis (switched his primary position to PF, secondary as C)
                  96 Kevin Durant (no post achilles injury changes made, we'll have to see)
                  95 Stephen Curry
                  93 Giannis Antetekounmpo (switched primary position to PF, the position he plays the most)
                  93 James Harden (his Intangibles rating was too high at 98)
                  92 Damian Lillard
                  92 Paul George
                  91 Joel Embiid

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                  • JohnnyFenoli
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 100

                    #10
                    Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                    Do you do any other slider / setting adjustments, besides the rebounding stat slider?

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                    • AstrosAllDay85
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 556

                      #11
                      Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                      Is there a way to keep the rotations from getting messed up once there’s a injury or anything or how do these work in a MyLeague? This is pretty nice and a lot of work u did


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                      • antdoggydogg
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 610

                        #12
                        Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                        Originally posted by JohnnyFenoli
                        Do you do any other slider / setting adjustments, besides the rebounding stat slider?
                        Not at the moment, some of the sliders seem broken. I tried changing the amount of Close Shots and Mid Range Shots that are taken but it had no effect.

                        Originally posted by AstrosAllDay85
                        Is there a way to keep the rotations from getting messed up once there’s a injury or anything or how do these work in a MyLeague? This is pretty nice and a lot of work u did
                        Thanks! As far as I know there is no way to keep advanced rotations once a player gets injured.

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                        • Jashawn95
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 16

                          #13
                          Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                          Amazing work, I was discouraged and thought I'd have to do this myself but thank goodness for you!

                          Is there any progression/regression sliders or contract/trade sliders that you recommend for 2k20?

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                          • antdoggydogg
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 610

                            #14
                            Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                            Originally posted by Jashawn95
                            Amazing work, I was discouraged and thought I'd have to do this myself but thank goodness for you!

                            Is there any progression/regression sliders or contract/trade sliders that you recommend for 2k20?
                            I'm going to add some progression/regression sliders for the athleticism ratings, since those are the only ones I feel sure of. Need to do more digging about the rest.

                            Eventually I'll look into contract/trade sliders as well.

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                            • KwiLL23
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 704

                              #15
                              Re: AntDoggyDogg 2K20 POE's

                              Originally posted by antdoggydogg
                              I'm going to add some progression/regression sliders for the athleticism ratings, since those are the only ones I feel sure of. Need to do more digging about the rest.

                              Eventually I'll look into contract/trade sliders as well.
                              Appreciate the work you put in. Patiently waiting on those contract/trade sliders🙏🏾.

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