Creation Center - Would you pay for it

[TomL]

2019 and the creation/customization options for the NHL-series are still pretty weak. Roster sharing is still missing, goalie masks are the same as the last five entries, as are logos, custom music is gone and so on.

Compared to the other big sports-franchises it might just be the worst (never tried Madden tbh) and I'm not very hopeful that EA will expand on it for quite a while. What we do know is that EA never had any problem expanding the modes that make them money.

With that said, would you pay if EA developed a mask editor that could be downloade for example? I know that I would cough up a couple of bucks for it at this point.

Never mind what you think should be included in a sports title 2019, I agree that it is just lazy not to have them in, would you pay for it and how much?

[Sauce12]

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It's sad, that we have to talk about this, not to long ago those things were standard. But yes, I would probably pay extra for custom music and roster sharing, maybe 5 to 10 bucks. Not sure about a mask creator.

Edit: I copied your post to the official forums, hope that's fine with you.

[jake19ny]

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I’ll tell you exactly why I wouldn’t give them a dime....it would open Pandora’s box....set a new and bad precedent. Micro transactions have already all but destroyed the video game industry. Story driven games have no imagination or depth and sports titles get very little attention to AI and gameplay as all resources now go to maximizing micro transactions and loot boxes.
Imagine what happens when other developers see EA generating additional revenue by charging for a roster share feature or a logo and mask editor. Before you know it we’re all shelling out extra dollars for features that should and were in the games already.
The madness has to end.

[Sauce12]

Re: Creation Center - Would you pay for it

I’ll tell you exactly why I wouldn’t give them a dime....it would open Pandora’s box....set a new and bad precedent. Micro transactions have already all but destroyed the video game industry. Story driven games have no imagination or depth and sports titles get very little attention to AI and gameplay as all resources now go to maximizing micro transactions and loot boxes.
Imagine what happens when other developers see EA generating additional revenue by charging for a roster share feature or a logo and mask editor. Before you know it we’re all shelling out extra dollars for features that should and were in the games already.
The madness has to end.

You're right about everything you said. But how big are the chances that this madness will end anytime soon? I'm at a point where i kinda just gave up.

[Travolterjohn]

Re: Creation Center - Would you pay for it

Sure would pay. For new Goalie masks, player likenesses, Roster sharing with player pics ( not for empty frames ) and so on.

[TomL]

Re: Creation Center - Would you pay for it

I think that most of us agree that these features should already be in the game. I see it as a hygiene factor 2019 if you can speak in those terms when it comes to sports gaming. The small things makes the whole experience in my mind.

I would really like to know what lies behind the decision to not include these features year after year when it is more or less the standard now. Guess it has to be business-related somehow.

As it is now the limited customization (or lack of) in terms of roster editing, sharing and custom draftclasses is a dealbreaker for me. Didn't buy last year and probably won't this year either for what it's worth.

[Sauce12]

Re: Creation Center - Would you pay for it

I think that most of us agree that these features should already be in the game. I see it as a hygiene factor 2019 if you can speak in those terms when it comes to sports gaming.

I would really like to know what lies behind the decision to not include these features year after year when it is more or less the standard now. Guess it has to be business-related somehow.

As it is now the limited customization (or lack of) in terms of roster editing, sharing and custom draftclasses is a dealbreaker for me. Didn't buy last year and probably won't this year either for what it's worth.

I think the reason for not having roster share is pretty obvious. They know there are people out there who would make way better and more accurate rosters than EA does, so there wouldn't really be a need to buy the new iterations every year. But why not just have some kind of time limited roster sharing option until the end of september or something?

[TomL]

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I think the reason for not having roster share is pretty obvious. They know there are people out there who would make way better and more accurate rosters than EA does, so there wouldn't really be a need to buy the new iterations every year. But why not just have some kind of time limited roster sharing option until the end of september or something?

That would be the obvious reason, I agree. But do you think that it would hamper their sales though? I'm not so sure. The HUT-players and the CHEL-whatever players wouldn't care and still be buying packs and stuff.

The occasional offline/franchise player could skip a year or so, sure, but I would bet that most of us would buy the latest game if they kept improving the game in terms of AI, presentation and so on rather than stick with last years game. I know I would.

Its the lack of features that keeps me from buying, not the other way around.

[PhillsPhan26]

Re: Creation Center - Would you pay for it

No point of talking about it. It will never happen.

[Sauce12]

Re: Creation Center - Would you pay for it

That would be the obvious reason, I agree. But do you think that it would hamper their sales though? I'm not so sure. The HUT-players and the CHEL-whatever players wouldn't care and still be buying packs and stuff.

The occasional offline/franchise player could skip a year or so, sure. I know I wouldn't though if they kept improving the game in terms of AI, presentation and so on.

Its the lack of features that makes me not buying, not the other way around.

I don't know, man, maybe it's just pure laziness. I mean, look at their rosters (ratings aside), you can't get more lazy than EA. For example, John Gibson has the wrong pads for I think three years now, even though his actual pads ARE in the game. Lots of goalies have CCM sticks that nobody uses since 2015 or so. I do understand that they can't have every custom designed goalie gear in the game, but come on, at least have all the others accurate. I could do that in a couple of hours, but they seem to just not care.

[Travolterjohn]

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That would be the obvious reason, I agree. But do you think that it would hamper their sales though? I'm not so sure. The HUT-players and the CHEL-whatever players wouldn't care and still be buying packs and stuff.

The occasional offline/franchise player could skip a year or so, sure, but I would bet that most of us would buy the latest game if they kept improving the game in terms of AI, presentation and so on rather than stick with last years game. I know I would.

Its the lack of features that keeps me from buying, not the other way around.

It’s a pity that this game is mutating to the Casino Gambler modes and away from basic NHL modes which it was early

[TomL]

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I don't know, man, maybe it's just pure laziness. I mean, look at their rosters (ratings aside), you can't get more lazy than EA. For example, John Gibson has the wrong pads for I think three years now, even though his actual pads ARE in the game. Lots of goalies have CCM sticks that nobody uses since 2015 or so. I do understand that they can't have every custom designed goalie gear in the game, but come on, at least have all the others accurate. I could do that in a couple of hours, but they seem to just not care.

You know what, I would bet that even that would not be a big issue if we were allowed more customization. As you said yourself, you could do it, share your creation/team/whatever and guys would download and be happy with the game (happier at least). EA would get dedicated gamers to do their hard work, get this out of the way and could concentrate on other stuff that is more important for them.

This is what EA is missing to understand: I'm a swedish guy who loves hockey. Not a big fan of Baseball and don't have any previous experience of basketball. I still bought both The Show and NBA2k because I was amazed of how good each franchise looked in comparison to NHL. Neither game would have attracted my attention if the consensus (even if it is taking a turn for the worse if I understand it right) was that the games were lacking in features/gameplay and so on.

So in the last three years a hockey loving Swedish guy bought a baseball game, a couple of NBA games but not a hockey game. Makes sense huh?

[Sauce12]

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You know what, I would bet that even that would not be a big issue if we were allowed more customization. As you said yourself, you could do it, share your creation/team/whatever and guys would download and be happy with the game (happier at least). EA would get dedicated gamers to do their hard work, get this out of the way and could concentrate on other stuff that is more important for them.

This is what EA is missing to understand: I'm a swedish guy who loves hockey. Not a big fan of Baseball and don't have any previous experience of basketball. I still bought both The Show and NBA2k because I was amazed of how good each franchise looked in comparison to NHL. Neither game would have attracted my attention if the consensus (even if it is taking a turn for the worse if I understand it right) was that the games were lacking in features/gameplay and so on.

So in the last three years a hockey loving Swedish guy bought a baseball game, a couple of NBA games but not a hockey game. Makes sense huh?

As a swiss guy (swedish, swiss, all the same, isn't it ) who loves hockey with a passion, I almost did the same. I bought NBA 2K19, The Show 17 and Madden 18, and I'm not the biggest fan of each of those sports (well, I do really like Football). Every one of these games blows NHL out of the water, it really is sad.

[BelfourThibault]

Re: Creation Center - Would you pay for it

I’ll tell you exactly why I wouldn’t give them a dime....it would open Pandora’s box....set a new and bad precedent. Micro transactions have already all but destroyed the video game industry. Story driven games have no imagination or depth and sports titles get very little attention to AI and gameplay as all resources now go to maximizing micro transactions and loot boxes.
Imagine what happens when other developers see EA generating additional revenue by charging for a roster share feature or a logo and mask editor. Before you know it we’re all shelling out extra dollars for features that should and were in the games already.
The madness has to end.

This is it, this right here.

It's incredibly frustrating to me that a decade ago, EA was in many ways leading the charge in customization. They had Game Face, and maybe they still do, but it's underutilized. I feel like a technology such as that could be detailed to such an awesome level on the current gen. Most of all, they had their incredible 'Team Creator' (or whatever it was officially called) for the NCAA Football series. It was awesome to be able to jump onto the website and do all kinds of crazy things with logos, rosters, etc. I don't understand why a technology like that was just given up on after NCAA was no more. It's almost inexcusable how we have more technology than ever before, but are in so many ways going backwards.

[shanev]

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I've supported third party roster editors in the past, and always thought this would be a great add-on, and an extra way for EA to get money.
I'd actually much prefer to be able to edit on the computer, it's so much easier than typing with a controller