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  • 23
    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #1

    My Career Players Help

    I don't need help at in what to do

    But I'm asking what can the AI do to better help you that you think could work in 2K?

    What do they do wrong?

    When it comes to scoring what is the biggest challenge AI wise?

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  • 23
    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #2
    Re: My Career Players Help

    It would be fantastic to get you guys feedback

    Don't disappear now.

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    • FixEverything2k
      Pro
      • May 2016
      • 577

      #3
      Re: My Career Players Help

      They make you the focal point of the offense too quickly.

      It’s gotten better over the years, but if I’m on Giannis’ team, he needs to play with me just as good as he plays against me.

      When I play Harden on HoF sometimes he’ll drop 50.
      If I join the rockets regardless of my position, all of a sudden he’s just a less bouncy Zach Lavine.

      Part of this is there should be more emphasis in our players fitting into the already established offence. So that the teammate CPU can play how the HOF CPU plays, but I think a large part of it is just our teammates are watered down in comparison to give us a star player illusion
      ... But hey VC sale!!

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #4
        Re: My Career Players Help

        Originally posted by FixEverything2k
        They make you the focal point of the offense too quickly.



        It’s gotten better over the years, but if I’m on Giannis’ team, he needs to play with me just as good as he plays against me.



        When I play Harden on HoF sometimes he’ll drop 50.

        If I join the rockets regardless of my position, all of a sudden he’s just a less bouncy Zach Lavine.



        Part of this is there should be more emphasis in our players fitting into the already established offence. So that the teammate CPU can play how the HOF CPU plays, but I think a large part of it is just our teammates are watered down in comparison to give us a star player illusion
        I believe that was something that evolved early on because people complained about not having a large enough role on offense in the early mycareer.

        I do believe that the offense has evolved enough to take a look at what you said though ...

        I'm thinking at least teams should have a dynamic duo type where you and the main star are the go to's.



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        • swac07
          MVP
          • Feb 2007
          • 1843

          #5
          Re: My Career Players Help

          Is this just for offense? Cause on defense they will literally let opponents shoot in their face with no contest or not pick up their man just to let them score an easy basket.

          On offense it's like they take the WORST possible shots ever.The paint is packed and I'm open on the wing spamming the pass button because I'm open, but nope they are going to try to shoot it over 3 people thus resulting in a missed shot, block, or other random turnover.


          Rarely any offensive rebounds

          On a 2 to 1 fast break while we're on offense sometimes they won't go towards the goal they'll stop running (I play for the 76ers so why would Ben NOT attack the basket he cant shoot)

          Your teammates IQ is just tuned to low and you can tell especially when you look at how the opponent is playing vs you. I play on allstar..

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #6
            Re: My Career Players Help

            Originally posted by swac07
            Is this just for offense? Cause on defense they will literally let opponents shoot in their face with no contest or not pick up their man just to let them score an easy basket.

            On offense it's like they take the WORST possible shots ever.The paint is packed and I'm open on the wing spamming the pass button because I'm open, but nope they are going to try to shoot it over 3 people thus resulting in a missed shot, block, or other random turnover.


            Rarely any offensive rebounds

            On a 2 to 1 fast break while we're on offense sometimes they won't go towards the goal they'll stop running (I play for the 76ers so why would Ben NOT attack the basket he cant shoot)

            Your teammates IQ is just tuned to low and you can tell especially when you look at how the opponent is playing vs you. I play on allstar..

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            Nah fam gimme what you got. I get to give this directly to the devs : ) So what would you say to them to help make it a better mode for you AI wise.

            So you think both their offensive and defensive awareness needs to be raised?
            Last edited by 23; 10-02-2019, 02:46 PM.

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            • MrWrestling3
              MVP
              • May 2015
              • 1146

              #7
              Re: My Career Players Help

              If we're talking AI team mates:

              On Offense:

              - Too many instances of team mates driving it directly into good defenders in the paint.

              -Forces up poor shots too often when there is an open man.Sometimes ignores open players when there is a clear passing lane.

              -Tends to hesitate on open shots which the player is known to be capable of making.This allows the CPU defense to get back into the play on what should have been an easy bucket.

              -PnR logic issue: Players sometimes call for a screen which results in them putting up shots against a much better defender than they would have without a screen.Players should better recognize good/elite defenders and avoid them rather than trying to go at them in a situation where they have no advantage.

              On Defense:

              -Off ball defense issues....mostly notable Team mates often fail to guard cutters. This is a legacy issue.

              -Too much switching on PnR's; not enough Hedge,Ice,etc. as well as just poor decision making when defending the PnR/screens in general(i.e. Your team mates seem to get confused every single tine they get screened) CPU AI does not seem to have this problem.

              -This one goes for both our team mates and the CPU..Lack of charging fouls.

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              • swac07
                MVP
                • Feb 2007
                • 1843

                #8
                Re: My Career Players Help

                Originally posted by 23
                Nah fam gimme what you got. I get to give this directly to the devs : ) So what would you say to them to help make it a better mode for you AI wise.

                So you think both their offensive and defensive awareness needs to be raised?
                Yes definitely!!!!
                Last edited by swac07; 10-02-2019, 06:31 PM.
                "Wisdom is ALWAYS an overmatch for strength"........The Zen Master

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #9
                  Re: My Career Players Help

                  Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                  If we're talking AI team mates:

                  On Offense:

                  - Too many instances of team mates driving it directly into good defenders in the paint.

                  -Forces up poor shots too often when there is an open man.Sometimes ignores open players when there is a clear passing lane.

                  -Tends to hesitate on open shots which the player is known to be capable of making.This allows the CPU defense to get back into the play on what should have been an easy bucket.

                  -PnR logic issue: Players sometimes call for a screen which results in them putting up shots against a much better defender than they would have without a screen.Players should better recognize good/elite defenders and avoid them rather than trying to go at them in a situation where they have no advantage.

                  On Defense:

                  -Off ball defense issues....mostly notable Team mates often fail to guard cutters. This is a legacy issue.

                  -Too much switching on PnR's; not enough Hedge,Ice,etc. as well as just poor decision making when defending the PnR/screens in general(i.e. Your team mates seem to get confused every single tine they get screened) CPU AI does not seem to have this problem.

                  -This one goes for both our team mates and the CPU..Lack of charging fouls.
                  Originally posted by swac07
                  Yes definitely!!!!

                  That seems to be what im gathering from all three of you guys regarding AI decisions.

                  I could note it as the awareness needs a boost on both sides of the ball, but detail it with things like you guys have notated.

                  Is this the reason now why guys just play to go on 40 and 50 point scoring tears?

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                  • m1ke_nyc
                    10
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3243

                    #10
                    Re: My Career Players Help

                    I’ll basically echo what’s being said. The mode forces you into hero ball to make you look like a superstar. If I go to the Lakers, Lebron and AD shouldn’t be taking a step back to let rookie me be the primary option on offense. Also yes cpu AI teammates pass up on way too many open shots. I again think that’s more about the mode focusing on you, so they are hesitant to take shots because your supposed to take the bulk of them.

                    AI superstars on your team do not play to their potential. But if they are on the cpu team they will torture you. What I would like is for the mode to allow you to define your role. It’s supposed to be “mycareer”. If I just wanna be a sixth man I should have that option. Maybe I wanna be a 3pt specialist, defensive specialist etc. If there’s one thing I’d really want you to pass along, they need to separate mycareer from the park. Mycareer should be a single player experience that I can customize to my liking with sliders. We can’t do that because the player is tied into the online portion. The ratings caps and archetype system is flawed again due to it being tied to the online portion.
                    It’s easier to do the right thing, than to explain why you didn’t.

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                    • MrWrestling3
                      MVP
                      • May 2015
                      • 1146

                      #11
                      Re: My Career Players Help

                      Originally posted by 23
                      That seems to be what im gathering from all three of you guys regarding AI decisions.

                      I could note it as the awareness needs a boost on both sides of the ball, but detail it with things like you guys have notated.

                      Is this the reason now why guys just play to go on 40 and 50 point scoring tears?
                      I think so, it's pretty common to hear guys things along the lines of "You have to drop 100 yourself every game because your team mates are trash."

                      IMO this is mostly because of Low Bball IQ/bad decision making by team mate AI.Players feel like they can't trust them to do their jobs competently.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #12
                        Re: My Career Players Help

                        Originally posted by MrWrestling3
                        If we're talking AI team mates:

                        On Offense:

                        - Too many instances of team mates driving it directly into good defenders in the paint.

                        -Forces up poor shots too often when there is an open man.Sometimes ignores open players when there is a clear passing lane.

                        -Tends to hesitate on open shots which the player is known to be capable of making.This allows the CPU defense to get back into the play on what should have been an easy bucket.

                        -PnR logic issue: Players sometimes call for a screen which results in them putting up shots against a much better defender than they would have without a screen.Players should better recognize good/elite defenders and avoid them rather than trying to go at them in a situation where they have no advantage.

                        On Defense:

                        -Off ball defense issues....mostly notable Team mates often fail to guard cutters. This is a legacy issue.

                        -Too much switching on PnR's; not enough Hedge,Ice,etc. as well as just poor decision making when defending the PnR/screens in general(i.e. Your team mates seem to get confused every single tine they get screened) CPU AI does not seem to have this problem.

                        -This one goes for both our team mates and the CPU..Lack of charging fouls.
                        Originally posted by m1ke_nyc
                        I’ll basically echo what’s being said. The mode forces you into hero ball to make you look like a superstar. If I go to the Lakers, Lebron and AD shouldn’t be taking a step back to let rookie me be the primary option on offense. Also yes cpu AI teammates pass up on way too many open shots. I again think that’s more about the mode focusing on you, so they are hesitant to take shots because your supposed to take the bulk of them.

                        AI superstars on your team do not play to their potential. But if they are on the cpu team they will torture you. What I would like is for the mode to allow you to define your role. It’s supposed to be “mycareer”. If I just wanna be a sixth man I should have that option. Maybe I wanna be a 3pt specialist, defensive specialist etc. If there’s one thing I’d really want you to pass along, they need to separate mycareer from the park. Mycareer should be a single player experience that I can customize to my liking with sliders. We can’t do that because the player is tied into the online portion. The ratings caps and archetype system is flawed again due to it being tied to the online portion.

                        Yeah man I get it...


                        As far as why youre the hero is because people said they wanted that many years ago and it was never changed, especially because it became the most popular mode for years after that.

                        I'd like to see how much progress we can make with this one as i said since the offenses have evolved.

                        As far as the mode changing altogether, i know many have stated that for such a long time. Hope thats something they can do on nex gen.

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                        • Thetruth9012
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 1287

                          #13
                          Re: My Career Players Help

                          A lot of teams has terrible freelance like 3-2...

                          I m in warriors and we play small ball with 3-2 freelance.....


                          Also can you pass this

                          Clippers freelance break the game actually.

                          If the ai center is in the corner then they will leave him which is good.

                          But a lot of times the center is on the wing and with the clippers freelance they staying limitles 3 so even if your center has defensive option to leave him he still stays on 3p line because the other guy is soo deep.


                          That problem is the worst in online(myteam ,pno) but its annoying vs ai aswell.

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                          Last edited by Thetruth9012; 10-02-2019, 08:33 PM.
                          2k18 fixes

                          Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                          Late contest on laups matter too much.

                          Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                          Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #14
                            Re: My Career Players Help

                            This is only for MyPlayer

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                            • Thetruth9012
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 1287

                              #15
                              Re: My Career Players Help

                              Originally posted by 23
                              This is only for MyPlayer
                              Well my post about freelance is good then

                              In mycareer a lot of teams have 3-2 out and you cant change it.

                              I traded myself because of it to gsw and it was the same.

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                              2k18 fixes

                              Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                              Late contest on laups matter too much.

                              Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                              Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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