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  • simbayless
    MVP
    • May 2011
    • 2028

    #1

    THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

    I am not gonna say boycott ect.. because it been said since the 360 era,but with that being said the writing is on the wall and EA isn't hold accountable enough.Take away x factor and tell me what did they really improved gameplay wise that will make this a must buy? I am scared for madden for next Gen gameplay the Devs oops my bad I mean the higher ups main priority is MUT and that only.The Beta is tricks you into buying the game and then find out they can't even fix zone coverage,cpu running,ai,slider overhaul,and most of all the madden too easy on pro and too hard on All madden delima.
  • XtremeDunkz
    CNFL Commissioner
    • Aug 2007
    • 3414

    #2
    Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

    Not just offline, but online sim players as well. It is a joke. The game plays like an arcade mess.
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    • jerwoods
      MVP
      • Jan 2009
      • 2998

      #3
      Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

      all sports games are like this 2K is way worse u can only play 3 modes offline fran blacktop and play now


      1 thing i am looking forward about next gen is the abily to pick and choose what u want to download its gonna be funny once EA finds out 15% of their customers dont play mut and athoter 15 play for just a week

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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #4
        Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

        Originally posted by jerwoods
        all sports games are like this 2K is way worse u can only play 3 modes offline fran blacktop and play now


        1 thing i am looking forward about next gen is the abily to pick and choose what u want to download its gonna be funny once EA finds out 15% of their customers dont play mut and athoter 15 play for just a week
        This is incredibly false and a blatantly tone deaf statement to make.

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        • TheOncomingStorm
          Banned
          • Sep 2012
          • 437

          #5
          Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

          its gonna be funny once EA finds out 15% of their customers dont play mut and athoter 15 play for just a week
          Originally posted by kehlis
          This is incredibly false and a blatantly tone deaf statement to make.
          And even if it were true (it's not), that still means EA would have 70% of players frequently using MUT.

          Any studio would kill to have 70% of their target demo consistently using a monetized card collection mode.

          EA wouldn't find that funny. They would find it a major success. Perhaps even so successful they do find it a little funny.

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          • timhere1970
            MVP
            • Sep 2013
            • 1810

            #6
            Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

            It's not an issue of online versus offline. It is an issue of user vs user against user versus ai. The ai is just so far behind 2019.

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            • Mackrel829
              MVP
              • Mar 2019
              • 1261

              #7
              Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

              I don't understand how this is still a topic for conversation.

              MUT makes money, Franchise Mode does not. Therefore, MUT gets more attention, whilst Franchise Mode gets less.

              This isn't an EA or Madden issue. That's just the way that capatalism works.

              People are out here expecting a company to invest their money into something that doesn't bring a satisfactory return. You don't become a multi-million dollar company, and one of the leaders in the market, by misallocating resources like that.

              Please stop insisting that EA should ignore the way that business works just to please you, an individual who doesn't give them as much money as other people do.

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              • NINJAK2
                *S *dd*ct
                • Jan 2003
                • 6185

                #8
                Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                Originally posted by Mackrel829
                I don't understand how this is still a topic for conversation.

                MUT makes money, Franchise Mode does not. Therefore, MUT gets more attention, whilst Franchise Mode gets less.

                This isn't an EA or Madden issue. That's just the way that capatalism works.

                People are out here expecting a company to invest their money into something that doesn't bring a satisfactory return. You don't become a multi-million dollar company, and one of the leaders in the market, by misallocating resources like that.

                Please stop insisting that EA should ignore the way that business works just to please you, an individual who doesn't give them as much money as other people do.
                Good a.i. is pretty important in a sports game imo. If Madden is going to put a franchise mode in it and advertise it on the back of the box and/or hype it in blogs then it should not be unexpected that customers will assume it will work properly and that the a.i. will atleast have decent management skills. Poor a.i. and problematic modes are Madden issues they need to address whether it makes them money or not because not everyone who buys the game only plays MUT and they know this. MUT is simply one part of a game which advertises many other modes..
                EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                • Mackrel829
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 1261

                  #9
                  Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                  Originally posted by NINJAK2
                  Good a.i. is pretty important in a sports game imo. If Madden is going to put a franchise mode in it and advertise it on the back of the box and/or hype it in blogs then it should not be unexpected that customers will assume it will work properly and that the a.i. will atleast have decent management skills. Poor a.i. and problematic modes are Madden issues they need to address whether it makes them money or not because not everyone who buys the game only plays MUT and they know this. MUT is simply one part of a game which advertises many other modes..
                  But again, that's not how business works. They're a private company; they don't have to do anything.

                  The game does work properly, it just doesn't work as well as you'd like it to. Nothing is broken, you're not missing any pieces that you were promised. The game just isn't as good as you want it to be.

                  You wouldn't buy a chocolate bar, decide that it doesn't taste good, then insist that the company changes their recipe to suit you. You'd just feel disappointed for a bit, then buy a different chocolate bar next time. You need to do the same thing here.

                  The only way you can change the gameplay is by refusing to buy the game. If Madden isn't selling, EA will change it until it is. If everyone stops buying, the game is the problem and things will be changed. If only you stop buying, then you have the problem and the game is fine.

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                  • SteelCityColt
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 69

                    #10
                    Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                    Originally posted by Mackrel829
                    But again, that's not how business works. They're a private company; they don't have to do anything.

                    The game does work properly, it just doesn't work as well as you'd like it to. Nothing is broken, you're not missing any pieces that you were promised. The game just isn't as good as you want it to be.

                    You wouldn't buy a chocolate bar, decide that it doesn't taste good, then insist that the company changes their recipe to suit you. You'd just feel disappointed for a bit, then buy a different chocolate bar next time. You need to do the same thing here.

                    The only way you can change the gameplay is by refusing to buy the game. If Madden isn't selling, EA will change it until it is. If everyone stops buying, the game is the problem and things will be changed. If only you stop buying, then you have the problem and the game is fine.
                    But what other chocolate bar is there to buy? What if Willy Wonka has a chocopoly?

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                    • Mackrel829
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 1261

                      #11
                      Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                      Originally posted by SteelCityColt
                      But what other chocolate bar is there to buy? What if Willy Wonka has a chocopoly?
                      Then eat something else. There are plenty of snacks to choose from...
                      Last edited by Mackrel829; 10-18-2019, 07:17 AM.

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                      • utfellar
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 60

                        #12
                        Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                        Originally posted by Mackrel829
                        I don't understand how this is still a topic for conversation.

                        MUT makes money, Franchise Mode does not. Therefore, MUT gets more attention, whilst Franchise Mode gets less.

                        This isn't an EA or Madden issue. That's just the way that capatalism works.

                        People are out here expecting a company to invest their money into something that doesn't bring a satisfactory return. You don't become a multi-million dollar company, and one of the leaders in the market, by misallocating resources like that.

                        Please stop insisting that EA should ignore the way that business works just to please you, an individual who doesn't give them as much money as other people do.
                        your stance is fine and all...if they werent allowed to be running a monopoly on this product. you ea apologists never seem to understand this side of the argument...the issue isnt that ea has decided to take madden the route of nfl blitz and arcade play, its that there are no other options because of an exclusivity deal that was not signed in good faith.

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                        • utfellar
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 60

                          #13
                          Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                          Originally posted by Mackrel829
                          Then eat something else. There are plenty of snacks to choose from...
                          keep defending this company all you want..there is a reason they are awarded with worst company in america regularly. they are awful on every single level.

                          for 2 decades, offline madden players helped turn ea sports into a mammoth and industry leader. then as soon as they strike an exclusivity deal they have made it a point to allow actual football play to diminish. madden 20 does not emulate the nfl in any aspect...at all. this is the frustration. somehow ea holds an exclusive license for nfl games and they refuse to actual make advancements with anything that actually has to do with the nfl and the game of football. everything they add is some arcadey bs that does nothing to make this the flagship NFL product. its an acade football game. it is not a game that represents the sport that it holds an exclusive license for. ea sports has absolutely destroyed the football gaming community. they have created a marketing driven arcade experience dressed up in nfl uniforms. it is not an nfl game and should not be marketed as so. it should be marketed as an arcade style, fantasy roster football game.

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                          • Mackrel829
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 1261

                            #14
                            Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                            I'm far from an EA apologist. I also think that Franchise Mode has massive issues and am frustrated that we barely get updates to it from year to year. However, it's ridiculous to assume that making a fuss about it on a forum is going to have more of an impact than simply withholding my business.

                            The fact that they have a monopoly has nothing to do with anything. They don't have a monopoly on video games as a whole. Go play something else. Even if they did, it's not like video games are essential to life or some kind of human right. Nothing bad will happen to you if you just stop buying Madden.

                            Guess what would happen if everyone stopped buying Madden though. EA would attempt to gain that business back by changing the game accordingly.

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                            • Mackrel829
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 1261

                              #15
                              Re: THIS COMPANY TURNED THEIR BACKS ON US OFFLINE USERS

                              Originally posted by utfellar
                              your stance is fine and all...if they werent allowed to be running a monopoly on this product. you ea apologists never seem to understand this side of the argument...the issue isnt that ea has decided to take madden the route of nfl blitz and arcade play, its that there are no other options because of an exclusivity deal that was not signed in good faith.
                              Also, the only people who are 'allowing' EA to monopolise football games are people who continue to buy Madden. Including you.

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