Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

[VTWiseGuy]

Hmmm decisions, decisions, Do I keep rolling with my RPO playbook or roll with my new custom all empty shotgun playbook and go new direction with my offense? Ideas?? [emoji458][emoji458]


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[Billwalshwco]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

No man don’t do it!!!! Keep rocking the Bill Walsh WCO under center offense. It’s so unique and classic. If you are on Xbox I’ll lab it with you. I have some crazy stuff that no one else runs.

[caseyj622]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

No man don’t do it!!!! Keep rocking the Bill Walsh WCO under center offense. It’s so unique and classic. If you are on Xbox I’ll lab it with you. I have some crazy stuff that no one else runs.

Do you play online? How do you protect against Mid blitz/pinch buck o meta? am interested in trying out the west coast book but am terrified of running an under center attack because the heat online is just ridiculous. You are sacked before you are even on your 2nd step dropback.

[stinkubus]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

Do you play online? How do you protect against Mid blitz/pinch buck o meta? am interested in trying out the west coast book but am terrified of running an under center attack because the heat online is just ridiculous. You are sacked before you are even on your 2nd step dropback.

You stop pinch buck 0 from under center by running stretch on them til they quit.

[edgevoice]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

Hmmm decisions, decisions, Do I keep rolling with my RPO playbook or roll with my new custom all empty shotgun playbook and go new direction with my offense? Ideas?? [emoji458][emoji458]


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Why not utilize both? Think about broadening your horizon rather than feeling you have to pick one over another. Your choice, but gradually building off of what you've started with and having plays that attack in alternate ways from similar formations will help to keep your opponents off balance.

[Ren The Conqueror]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

Why not utilize both? Think about broadening your horizon rather than feeling you have to pick one over another. Your choice, but gradually building off of what you've started with and having plays that attack in alternate ways from similar formations will help to keep your opponents off balance.

This is great advice. All of the modern great play-callers keep it fluid. Just because you run the spread, doesn't mean that you cannot come out with 3 TEs, or in a heavy-set i-formation. The best offensive approach is to keep it evolving... this way defenses constantly have to attempt to adapt.

Granted I play offline franchise, User vs. CPU, but I still very much employ this approach.

Currently, I am running the 'Multiple Zone Run' offense. What does this mean? I can pass out of power and run out of gun / spread formations. But I can very much still run out of power and throw out of gun / spread.

Essentially, I can and will use any of the 32 team playbooks for a given week, as all can apply to this philosophy.

[edgevoice]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

This is great advice. All of the modern great play-callers keep it fluid. Just because you run the spread, doesn't mean that you cannot come out with 3 TEs, or in a heavy-set i-formation. The best offensive approach is to keep it evolving... this way defensives constantly have to attempt to adapt.

Granted I play offline franchise, User vs. CPU, but I still very much employ this approach.

Currently, I am running the 'Multiple Zone Run' offense. What does this mean? I can pass out of power and run out of gun / spread formations. But I can very much still run out of power and throw out of gun / spread.

Essentially, I can and will use any of the 32 team playbooks for a given week, as all can apply to this philosophy.

We have the same overall philosophy. For instance, I'll run I Formation HB Lead or Texas Post on 1st down. I like to think of it this way: Put a play in that you like to run. Afterwards, think of the best defense to call in order to stop that play. Finally, put in another play from that same formation that will eat that defense alive. I do this over and over again while I build my book and install gameplans. It makes playcalling and the overall game experience so much more fun.

[tg88forHOF]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

We have the same overall philosophy. For instance, I'll run I Formation HB Lead or Texas Post on 1st down. I like to think of it this way: Put a play in that you like to run. Afterwards, think of the best defense to call in order to stop that play. Finally, put in another play from that same formation that will eat that defense alive. I do this over and over again while I build my book and install gameplans. It makes playcalling and the overall game experience so much more fun.

3rd this approach.

Another way to approach it along the same lines, but still iterating on what you have that works, is utilizing the same concepts, but from a different set or personnel.

If you do work with the Texas Post concept Edge is talking about out of I, also add an 11 set with the same concept. The opponent will eventually be prepared to cover the TE post and the FB angle, but what if it's the HB running the angle, and the SLWR running the post?

[edgevoice]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

3rd this approach.

Another way to approach it along the same lines, but still iterating on what you have that works, is utilizing the same concepts, but from a different set or personnel.

If you do work with the Texas Post concept Edge is talking about out of I, also add an 11 set with the same concept. The opponent will eventually be prepared to cover the TE post and the FB angle, but what if it's the HB running the angle, and the SLWR running the post?

Great point and brings to light the importance of utilizing your personnel. Of course, you still want to make sure that you have counter concepts, regardless of how you dress it up by formation or package.

[tg88forHOF]

Re: Need a new direction for my offense. Help!

Great point and brings to light the importance of utilizing your personnel. Of course, you still want to make sure that you have counter concepts, regardless of how you dress it up by formation or package.

Absolutely. I guess I just don't see them as fundamentally different approaches.

In both cases, you're setting an expectation, then exploiting an opponent's reaction to that expectation. In the case you outlined, you set your opponent up to see I form, think "Texas", and call something to counter it (maybe a C1 hole)...then calling a play out of the same form that tears up man. In my example, I've set the same expectation (I form = Texas), and try to get them to reacting to different personnel and form by calling a different defense that doesn't cover an angle/post combo well.

And to Raider's original point, there's no good reason not to have both available.