Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

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  • ryangil23
    Rookie
    • May 2016
    • 418

    #1

    Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

    Hopefully somebody can say whether it be a game changer or something but if not, at least if it’s been brought up.
  • MacAttack33
    Banned
    • Oct 2018
    • 165

    #2
    Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

    Originally posted by ryangil23
    Hopefully somebody can say whether it be a game changer or something but if not, at least if it’s been brought up.
    I like the way UD3 implemented fakes though. It wasn't a full on grand mal seizure. Instead, you could place a hand on a leg and hold it there, not letting the opponent know when you are actually going to pass. I think this would be a much better way to implement fakes.

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    • ryangil23
      Rookie
      • May 2016
      • 418

      #3
      Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

      Originally posted by MacAttack33
      I like the way UD3 implemented fakes though. It wasn't a full on grand mal seizure. Instead, you could place a hand on a leg and hold it there, not letting the opponent know when you are actually going to pass. I think this would be a much better way to implement fakes.
      Yeah this does sound better. The seizures people get into doing it, as you put it, is a bit ridiculous lol.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #4
        Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

        Originally posted by ryangil23
        Hopefully somebody can say whether it be a game changer or something but if not, at least if it’s been brought up.
        Its too early to even discuss anything like this.

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        • ryangil23
          Rookie
          • May 2016
          • 418

          #5
          Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Its too early to even discuss anything like this.
          Is it? Isn’t the game coming out in like 3-4 months? I know nothing official has said but just basing it off the past releases were usually early in the year.
          Last edited by ryangil23; 11-05-2019, 12:42 PM. Reason: Grammar

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #6
            Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

            Originally posted by ryangil23
            Is it? Isn’t the game coming out in like 3-4 months? I know nothing official has said but just basing it off the past releases were usually early in the year.
            It is. We arent permitted to comment on any features related to the game until EA announces the game and the specific feature. So if EA released a press release stating that UFC 4 has a new grappling system, we would be able to then discuss some of the details of that system. Until then, its too early and no one from the team (dev or GC) is going to speak on it.

            FYI, there is no guarantee that the game is coming out in "3-4 months."

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            • Boiler569
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 2006

              #7
              Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

              I really hope fakes/feints are a much larger part of UFC 4 ... especially clinch/ground.

              Hard to say what that would look like of course But the more options, the better, whether that means Minor vs. Major transitions (EA MMA style); Improved "Strike to Pass, Pass to Strike" mechanics; more efficient fakes/counters/sweeps ---- or hopefully all of the above!
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              • ryangil23
                Rookie
                • May 2016
                • 418

                #8
                Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                It is. We arent permitted to comment on any features related to the game until EA announces the game and the specific feature. So if EA released a press release stating that UFC 4 has a new grappling system, we would be able to then discuss some of the details of that system. Until then, its too early and no one from the team (dev or GC) is going to speak on it.

                FYI, there is no guarantee that the game is coming out in "3-4 months."
                Cool. I wasn’t sure about the protocol on what you were allowed to discuss but that clears it up.

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                • ryangil23
                  Rookie
                  • May 2016
                  • 418

                  #9
                  Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                  Originally posted by Boiler569
                  I really hope fakes/feints are a much larger part of UFC 4 ... especially clinch/ground.

                  Hard to say what that would look like of course But the more options, the better, whether that means Minor vs. Major transitions (EA MMA style); Improved "Strike to Pass, Pass to Strike" mechanics; more efficient fakes/counters/sweeps ---- or hopefully all of the above!
                  I think they are already a huge part in the clinch and on the ground. The way it is, IMO, a bit silly. It’s not a good representation of what you watch in real life MMA to me.

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                  • Boiler569
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 2006

                    #10
                    Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                    Originally posted by ryangil23
                    I think they are already a huge part in the clinch and on the ground. The way it is, IMO, a bit silly. It’s not a good representation of what you watch in real life MMA to me.
                    Good point and I agree. Some fakes are definitely useful right now, but even if they are effective, they usually look pretty cheezy. Smoother & more effective fakes --- with the right balance of risk and reward --- definitely would add a dynamic feel to the ground game (whether it's an all-new ground game, or an improvement of the system we currently have).

                    Also, I feel that there are a lot of positions that don't have fakes at all, that could really benefit from them.

                    Minor Transitions vs. Major Transitions vs. Ground n Pound vs. Submission Attempts vs. Fakes ----- all of those options should be available and legitimate in (nearly) every position (depending on your fighter's moves & stats too, of course)
                    Last edited by Boiler569; 11-05-2019, 01:17 PM.
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                    • That Ragdoll Guy
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 358

                      #11
                      Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                      I really do not like to bring up older games as example but what UD 3 really did good was the ground game.

                      I didnt even spend much time on the ground, unless I was trying to get back up to my feet. But the ground movement was such a beauty. The feeling was like ''hey Im down here trapped. I gotta move my *** to the cage otherwise Im F'd.'' The ground game was more alive. You only get that feeling in UFC 3 when you are trapped in a crucifix by Khabib. Game over.

                      Taking a guy down in the middle of the cage was a huge advantage for the top guy. The cage was very helpful for the bottom guy to get up again. It could be used to get up when you are nearby. That was something I will always admire.

                      The bottom cage postions submissions or the GnP or the Tko's and Ko's.
                      The detail of UD 3 man, such a crazy old game did so much right. Respect.
                      Last edited by That Ragdoll Guy; 11-15-2019, 08:33 AM.

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                      • Good Grappler
                        Pro
                        • May 2018
                        • 615

                        #12
                        Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                        I would hope they look nothing like the fakes on EA UFC 3
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                        • 1212headkick
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1823

                          #13
                          Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                          Here's what you do about fakes. Keep ****ing hitting them! Punch let your stamina refill and punch again! By the time they do transition your great dead grandmother would be able to deny it. Be disciplined about letting your stamina refill. Hammer fists are your best friend when postured down especially to the body! If they get half guard fake happy punch and pre deny.

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                          • Good Grappler
                            Pro
                            • May 2018
                            • 615

                            #14
                            Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                            The fakes on this game are so absurdly unrealistic. In every way. Visually, it’s the most atrocious thing in the history of MMA gaming. Strategically, it’s got no resemblance to real life MMA. And gameplay-wise it’s just a game-breaker - it’s completely taken over the meta, and it has such an intense sweaty vibe that destroys the immersion.

                            When I’m grappling, I wanna feel like I’m just chillin and flowing. I don’t wanna feel like some dude with a heavy metal T shirt on, sitting at the edge of his chair barefoot frantically flicking the right stick, angrily screaming at his mom to leave his pizza rolls in the microwave, smelling like a deer carcass. This is basically what EA is forcing us all to become with this transition fake meta.
                            Last edited by Good Grappler; 11-08-2019, 09:54 PM.
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                            • MichaelKnight21
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 31

                              #15
                              Re: Is faking transitions still going to be a thing in UFC 4?

                              Originally posted by Good Grappler
                              When I’m grappling, I wanna feel like I’m just chillin and flowing. I don’t wanna feel like some dude with a heavy metal T shirt on, sitting at the edge of his chair barefoot frantically flicking the right stick, angrily screaming at his mom to leave his pizza rolls in the microwave, smelling like a deer carcass. This is basically what EA is forcing us all to become with this transition fake meta.

                              Chill bro, you didn't have to call out Heem like that

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