I know there has been numerous posts on conference realignment ideas, but I was looking for any updated ideas, because most of the posts are pretty outdated. Any ideas that greatly incorporate a playoff system would be great, but not mandatory. Thanks!
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Re: Any new conference realignment ideas?
More like look back at what could have been. For example, would the Big East still be around for football if Penn State said no to the Big Ten? -
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I've been doing this system for a while now and really love it. I assume I'll always go with it in all of my forthcoming dynasties. Promotion/relegation based on time zones. If a team goes winless in conference, they're out, being replaced with the best team from the corresponding Tier 2 conference or the Sun Belt. Tier 1's have 14 teams. Tier 2's have 12 teams (*correction - my MAC currently has 10). Sun Belt changes number of teams, at times, but typically has 7-8.
Eastern: Tier 1 - Big Ten (North), ACC (South) //// Tier 2 - American (North), MAC (South) All have North and South divisions.
Central: Tier 1 - Big 12 //// Tier 2 - C-USA Both have North and South divisions.
Mountain/Pacific (Combined): Tier 1 - PAC 12 //// Tier 2 - MWC. PAC 12 has Pacific and Mountain (the 6 or 7 teams closest to the Mountain Time Zone; some, at times, will technically be geographically located in the Pacific Time Zone) as its divisions*. MWC has North and South for its divisions.
SEC is also considered Tier 1, consisting of top Southeastern teams from from both Eastern and Central Time Zones, stopping at the conveniently placed state lines of North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Oklahoma. Every state under, including Texas, can be included. Divisions are East and West, but could, of course, be changed to North/South, if more convenient. East/West has just always been more convenient for me, considering the shape of "the zone".
As it conveniently fits most of the remaining teams, like the SEC, I sort of treat the Sun Belt as it's own zone using this <a href="https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&authuser=0&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNS1Q8H Az1YtsI0zkV9kYgXaUdTChA%3A1573600457995&source=hp& biw=1366&bih=625&ei=yTzLXY--OY7j_Aat9pq4Ag&q=map+of+sun+belt+america&oq=map+of +sun+belt+america&gs_l=img.3...553.8699..8791...4. 0..0.159.3476.0j26......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39j0j0i8i30j0i30.MZQYycmU9S0&ved=0ahU KEwjPxsHC5uXlAhWOMd8KHS27BicQ4dUDCAY&uact=5#imgrc= xRCIAZnk-zQuwM:">map</a>. Sun Belt can supply teams for both Tier 1's and Tier 2's.
Remaining teams are your Independents. For the vast majority of my dynasty they have been Kansas and Kansas State. Yep, the two teams smack dab in the middle.
* This is, of course, optional as you could always stick to the North/South divisions that work well, but I really like being able to let each time zone represent their own division since these two time zones are combined, sharing a conference.
For instance, I'm in 2068 in my current dynasty, and this is what my PAC 12 has grown into: Pacific - Nevada, UCLA, Stanford, USC, Washington, Hawai'i, Cal (and I know here you might think, "that's not much different than real life", but it's important to note that both UCLA and USC spent many years in the MWC, but were both able to make a comeback) & Mountain - Colorado, Air Force, BYU, Utah, Colorado State, New Mexico, Arizona
All of the maps and pics that I use:
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<a href="https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&authuser=0&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNQ44CG i2QfEwERYY_3X4sQQ5mfv1Q%3A1573599551091&source=hp& biw=1366&bih=625&ei=PznLXfKyA--iggf0-oEY&q=map+of+time+zones+in+us&oq=map+of+tim&gs_l=i mg.1.1.35i39l2j0l8.417.1828..3756...0.0..0.132.120 3.0j10......0....1..gws-wiz-img.m9mvIeMfzHk#imgrc=bxF53tz27sQl_M:">Time Zones</a>
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Re: Any new conference realignment ideas?
This is a pretty cool idea! Any idea of what the conferences looked like at the beginning of the dynasty? Are there any instances where you need to move one team from the P/M ladder to the C ladder, for example? Also, how does your national championship work? Regular format, 4-team playoff?Current Dynasties
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Re: Any new conference realignment ideas?
Thanks. I updated it, btw, realized I had left out some key components.
At the start of the dynasty, I was using last years community rosters. So, in my setup, I like for the Tier 1's to have 14 teams, and Tier 2's to have 12. So, I just took the best teams from last years rosters and placed them in the proper conference according to the the time zone guidelines. The rest of my initial selections were based on tradition and National Championship wins. So, for example, despite recent struggles, Tennessee would have started in either the SEC or ACC because of their tradition and Natties.
I don't quite understand your ladder question.
As for playoff, I've yet to attempt one, but I think it would be really cool to do a 4-teamer with the Tier 1's, or an 8-teamer with the 1's and 2's and maybe a Sun Belt or Independent team as a wildcard, if deserving over a Tier 2 champ.
I'm not sure if it's the structure of the conferences or what, but there's only been a few times where I felt like the old BCS system didn't get it right in my little universe. Every great once in a while, there would be 3-4 undefeated teams, and I might disagree with the #2 team the game chose, but it's rare. In fact, it seems like there is often only two undefeated teams left. Sometimes, just one.Last edited by Tuscaloosa; 11-12-2019, 08:24 PM.Comment
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Wow funny you ask... I literally just found this out and I’ve re fallen in love with this game again.
If every conference has exactly 11 teams. No more divisions. No more conference championship games. There will also be 26 independents.
By doing this every team plays an 8 game rotating conference schedule, with 4 non conference slots.
So scheduling and rankings and records will be very balanced and it will be much simpler to be able to say an 11-1 P5 team is better than a 10-2 P5 team.
That said the cool thing about moving some P5 schools as independents is it works out as a de facto regulation/deregulation system without you even trying. For example in my dynasty Colorado was the initial team I kicked to Indy from the PAC12 based on starting rankings and prestige. 2 years later Colorado finishes in the top 12, wins their bowl game, and moved up prestige. I swap them out for Washington State who struggled.
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Had any trouble with freezing at Conference Championship Week? I've read that if you don't have at least one CCG that it can/does glitch the game up. I feel like I tried this once, but left the Sun Belt as the only CCG to avoid any issues, but it ended up giving them too much credit, so I scrapped it. Any truth to the freeze thing? Have you made it several seasons doing this?Comment
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I did some tinkering of my own last night to try to come up with a good set of conferences that would make sense and also have its own twist. I'm not too familiar with the protected rivalries, so if you think that there should be for a certain conferences so I can update it.
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I havent figured out how to configure it yet, but I am trying to put together some conference realignment that has 8 major conferences with 12 teams. Everyone else would make up the remaining conferences.
I am thinking the 8 major conferences would be the Big 10, ACC, SEC, Pac-12, Big 12, MWC, Sun Belt, and probably MAC.
Everyone else would be relegated to the remaining conferences.
This would then turn conference championship games into a defacto first round playoff with the conference champions being seeded into an 8 team playoff.
There would be some type of promotion and relegation too. I have never gotten far enough into a Dynasty to do something like this so I haven't thought it all the way through.
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FYI, there is also this topic
https://forums.operationsports.com/f...nce-setup.html
I've used the one in the OP there before, just replacing UAB with The Citadel and Idaho with North Dakota State. Have had some fun dynasties with it.Comment
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I always roll with the same conferences , i cannot accept playing where things don't make sense geographically, or at least for the most part.
AAC basically becomes the old big east
Notre Dame Boston College
Cincinnati Maryland
West Virginia UConn
Pitt Temple
Syracuse UMASS
Louisville Rutgers
ACC
Florida State Wake Forest
Miami Nc State
Clemson North Carolina
UCF Duke
USF Virginia
Georgia Tech Virginia Tech
Big 12 is Texas vs the world . Swap Iowa State to the big 10 and Nebraska back to the big 12 where they belong.
Baylor Oklahoma
Houston Oklahoma State
Texas Kansas
Texas Tech Kansas State
Texas A&M Missouri
TCU Nebraska
SEC returns to its traditional teams before expansion, Big 10 has one change with Iowa State replacing Nebraska to be in conference with rival Iowa, CUSA becomes a 16 team conference with Texas and Louisiana second tier teams and a few others, the sun belt becomes an 8 team 3rd tier conference.
Independents are Army and Navy only. BYU moved to MWC, NM State moved to MWC, Old Dominion to the sun belt if they aren't replaced by a teambuilder team. Notre Dame to the AAC.
Sometimes ill swap out Colorado from the pac 12 and put them in the MWC or the Big 12 depending on how i feel, and replace them with Hawaii, or Boise State.
Again, it's all about every conference having a title game or at least 8 teams, and GEOGRAPHY, GEOGRAPHY GEOGRAPHY !Comment
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Another thing kind of fun was to move all the independents into conferences. For example, makes it a bit more interesting if you move Notre Dame into the SEC where they have to play those teams every year. Or move them like I did one year I think into C-USA then the other teams get to sink or swim.Comment
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I juust started a fresh dynasty with a new idea. I haven't read through the old ideas in a while, so I'm not sure how much it has been discussed.
I wanted to start a world where relegation happens every year in college football. I have 6 power conferences and 4 mid-major conferences. Every conference has 10 members - this allows for each team to play each other in conference. Each of the 6 power conference champs go to a 6 team playoff. Each of the 4 mid-major conference champs go to a 4 team playoff, where the winner is moved into a power conference the next year.
The power conference team with the worst conference record gets relegated to the mid-major level. When there's a tie (which I expect most years), I'll decide based on other factors like non-conference record, strength of conference, and scores. I might actually move two teams up and down, but I'll decide at the end of my first year and roll with that number for future years.
When creating the conferences, I based placement on team prestige stars, historical production, and default overall ratings. In general, I tried to keep teams in the same conference or with historical and/or geographical ties with other teams.
1st Year Conference set-up:
Power 6
ACC: Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Miami, NC State, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech
American: BC, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, West Virginia
Big 10: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisville, Minnesota, Missouri, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin
Big 12: Baylor, Colorado, Kansas State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M
Pac 12: Arizona, Arizona State, Cal, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington
SEC: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Mid-Major 4
Mountain West: Boise State, BYU, Fresno State, Hawaii, Nevada, San Diego State, San Jose State, Utah State, UNLV, Washington State
C-USA: Colorado State, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Louisiana Tech, Rice, SMU, Tulsa, UTEP, Wyoming
Sun Belt: Arkansas State, ECU, Memphis, MTSU, So Miss, Troy, UCF, ULL, ULM, USF
MAC: Cincinnati, UConn, Duke, Marshall, NIU, Ohio U, Temple, Toledo, Wake Forest, W. Kentucky
All other teams are independents. I'll also move the top (2 or 4) independent teams up into the mid-major level and drop the bottom (2 or 4) mid-major teams.Comment
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I've always loved the idea of promotion and relegation, and this is a good system. It's interesting to see teams like Kansas, Duke, Washington State (among others) that are in Power 5 conferences right now, but they would be in the Mid-Major conferences. Nice setup (:Current Dynasties
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