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  • ncp10
    Rookie
    • Mar 2018
    • 194

    #226
    Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

    Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
    I'm sort of embarrassed to admit that I'm too lazy and too impatient to play without green grids. Even when I to try it, I find that all too often I'm guessing at the direction of the break. I wish I could get into it because when you do have a good hole and an honest birdie, it is more rewarding. I just get too frustrated with it to play with gridless greens, short of an occasional experimental round.
    The cure for that is playing on Mike's TruSim Tour! You are down behind the ball with no way to measure break at all and w/ more limited camera action. We just hate the look of the grid is most of it, plus we do pretty good using the putting meter and doing a few scans side to side. But I completely understand the idea of being frustrated by missing 5' putts because it's not being read right. I will say now that my putting stroke is more reliable I do putt good enough to shoot in that range. I think my average putts per round is around 29 which again is right in there with decent RL golf play.

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    • daflyboys
      Banned
      • May 2003
      • 18238

      #227
      Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

      What is Mike's TruSim Tour you speak of that doesn't use a grid and how does one join?

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      • ncp10
        Rookie
        • Mar 2018
        • 194

        #228
        Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

        Originally posted by daflyboys
        What is Mike's TruSim Tour you speak of that doesn't use a grid and how does one join?
        TGCTours.com > More Tours > True Sim Tours

        This was developed as a means of dealing with the fact some people are able to play the game like machines and routinely shoot -50 to -60 in 72h events on their regular Pro and other tours where the various aids available in TGC2019 are enabled. True Sim Tours was intended to prevent this by disabling all aids, so no grids, no putting marker, no scout cam, no nuttin'. As it turns out that did not help a lot to worsen scores--they often shoot better scores than is done on the aided tours anyway. Quite frankly I don't understand how it's done, especially blinded w/ no aim, lie, loft, aids enabled.

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        • daflyboys
          Banned
          • May 2003
          • 18238

          #229
          Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

          Originally posted by ncp10
          TGCTours.com > More Tours > True Sim Tours

          This was developed as a means of dealing with the fact some people are able to play the game like machines and routinely shoot -50 to -60 in 72h events on their regular Pro and other tours where the various aids available in TGC2019 are enabled. True Sim Tours was intended to prevent this by disabling all aids, so no grids, no putting marker, no scout cam, no nuttin'. As it turns out that did not help a lot to worsen scores--they often shoot better scores than is done on the aided tours anyway. Quite frankly I don't understand how it's done, especially blinded w/ no aim, lie, loft, aids enabled.
          Well, if we're talking a mouse movement type swing, then we're talking edgers or gaming mouse most likely. Even in TW08, the only way to truly even the playing field was 3 click. But then you have the purists saying 3 click isn't "realistic". I got news for you....it's a game....none of it is realistic. But I know what they mean and some guys are okay with doing whatever is necessary to win and have no scruples.

          The one problem with JNPG is that although you can lock in the level, you can't lock in the swing type and neither can you lock in "no grid".

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          • OnlookerDelay
            MVP
            • Oct 2003
            • 3452

            #230
            Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

            Originally posted by ncp10
            The cure for that is playing on Mike's TruSim Tour! You are down behind the ball with no way to measure break at all and w/ more limited camera action. We just hate the look of the grid is most of it, plus we do pretty good using the putting meter and doing a few scans side to side. But I completely understand the idea of being frustrated by missing 5' putts because it's not being read right. I will say now that my putting stroke is more reliable I do putt good enough to shoot in that range. I think my average putts per round is around 29 which again is right in there with decent RL golf play.

            I played a season in the 4 Letter Word Society, which uses no aids last year. I was one of the bottom feeders in that season. I had brief moments where I really dug it, but overall I just found it frustrating for someone of my patience level. I do see what you guys see in it though. I just wish I was a little more wired to play that style.
            Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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            • vertman
              MVP
              • Feb 2003
              • 1009

              #231
              Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

              Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
              I played a season in the 4 Letter Word Society, which uses no aids last year. I was one of the bottom feeders in that season. I had brief moments where I really dug it, but overall I just found it frustrating for someone of my patience level. I do see what you guys see in it though. I just wish I was a little more wired to play that style.


              Agreed. I have it a try myself and liked the premise and the difficulty but like you it was just too frustrating . If a few things like putting view and a few more ways or cameras to view your putt were added it really could be awesome. I’m giving up for now but hope the next game does it better


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              • ncp10
                Rookie
                • Mar 2018
                • 194

                #232
                Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

                Originally posted by OnlookerDelay
                I played a season in the 4 Letter Word Society, which uses no aids last year. I was one of the bottom feeders in that season. I had brief moments where I really dug it, but overall I just found it frustrating for someone of my patience level. I do see what you guys see in it though. I just wish I was a little more wired to play that style.
                I played a few events in True Sim and it did not seem anything like RL golf. In RL golf after planning my intended shot from behind the ball I use visual references to insure my feet, shoulders etc are aligned according to my intended initial ball flight. Without a Scout Cam you get none of that--it feels like blind man's golf. Somehow people shoot -60 after 72h there, only people w/ PS4's, but still that's bizarre I don't get it.

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                • scagwi
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 2732

                  #233
                  Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

                  Originally posted by vertman
                  ...I’m giving up for now but hope the next game does it better
                  I just hope there is a next game

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                  • tuckermaine
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 922

                    #234
                    Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

                    I liked what I saw with this game but I have not read anything in way of this game coming to console PS4
                    Disappointed...

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                    • OnlookerDelay
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3452

                      #235
                      Re: Jack Nicklaus Perfect Golf Available Now on Steam, Soon For Consoles

                      Originally posted by tuckermaine
                      I liked what I saw with this game but I have not read anything in way of this game coming to console PS4
                      Disappointed...
                      A first quarter 2017 release date for the console versions (XBox One and PS4) was announced in the Fall of 2016, but as we all know, that didn't happen. Trackman now owns Perfect Parallel and no one really knows what if any desires they would have to bring out a version of VG 2 for the PCs and consoles? I can't imagine that they would have any given their target ultra premium market with Virtual Golf 2 and Trackman 4.

                      Both Andrew Jones and Mike Jones (developers of JNPG and founders of Perfect Parallel) have each dropped teasers over the last two years, saying they've had VG 2 running in desktop PC environment, which is not hard to believe, but how close was it to resembling something that would be attractive to the PC/Console gaming market? Even if Mike and Andrew got something like this working on their own, and it was something that would appeal to this market, there's still no guarantee that Trackman would green light it.

                      In a nutshell, I don't hold out much hope for it coming to gaming PCs, let alone the consoles
                      Duke Football? Hell yes it's Duke Football! --- Coach Cutcliffe

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