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Bard · 03-13-2020, 09:52 AM

Everyone still kicking from that CoronaVirus? It may have taken down real life baseball, but not our beloved The Show!

With that out of the way...HELLO, everyone! Bard is 100% back here and ready for another year of fun trade discussions! I have done this the last few years, and it has been a blast to discuss trades with you all.

Now, we have had some discussions on our trade tool being a little iffy on some occasions, and spot on with others. So, if you would like to use it, please do! I will still be using it to help everyone out in here

However, there is this awesome site now that you can do trades within it, and if you want to use that I'll even adjust my old ways and help you with that as well!

So, below will be our example and also the site for those trades! If anyone finds the updated prospect values just link in the thread and I'll update the example.

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Player Calculation Example:

You're going to have to find the WAR for the player. We use Baseball Reference as they tend to have the most realistic WAR assessments. We will use Robinson Chirinos of the Texas Rangers for this example.

Link: https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...hiriro01.shtml

DISTINGUISHING AVERAGE WAR

For Position Players, we're going to scroll down to Player Value Batting. You can see that below but keep reading. We need to identify the player's WAR for the past three years. We use a 6 x 3 x 1 method of determining a fair value for the player. Thus we're going to take the 2017 WAR and multiply it by 6. Then we will find the 2016 WAR and multiply it by 3. The 2015 WAR is simply the remaining 10% so there is no need to multiply it. See below.

Okay now we have our WARS. We're going to discern our average WAR for Chirinos now.

2017 WAR: 2.7 x 6 = 16.2
2016 WAR: 0.9 x 3 = 2.7
2015 WAR: 1.8 x 1 = 1.8

Add: 16.2+2.7+1.8= 20.7
Now keep in mind, we were using percentages of each season to create our basis so now we need to divide by 10 (6+3+1). That brings Chirinos to a 2.1 WAR (rounding up from 2.07).

PINPOINTING TOTAL VALUE

Now we're going to create our total value from that WAR number. We've decided among ourselves, using Professional opinions, that the average worth for 1 WAR is 9 Million. So we're going to multiply Chirinos' WAR by 9 and then by the amount of years remaining on his contract. To do that, we're going to scroll down near the bottom where it says Salaries. See below.

Okay, now we know how many years Chirinos has remaining in his contract and how much he will be paid for those years. Lets do our math.

2.1(Player WAR) x 9 (WAR Worth) x 2 (Contracted Years Remaining) = 37.8M Total Value

There we see that Chirinos is worth a total value of 37.8M. But now we have to identify what his surplus value is.

FINALIZING SURPLUS VALUE

Surplus is identified using this method:

Total Value - Remaining Salary = Surplus Value

Using the image above, we can see that Chirinos has approximately $4.63M owed to him in his current contract. We can do our final piece of math now.

37.8 (Total Value) - 4.63 (Remaining Salary) = 33.17M Surplus

We will go ahead and round that fourth digit up or down. As it is a 7, we'll round up to a final 33.2M Surplus.

Prospect value:

Top 100 Hitter:
1-10: $95 surplus
11-25: $75 surplus
26-50: $51 surplus
51-75: $33 surplus
76-100: $18 surplus

Top 100 Pitcher:
1-10: $87 surplus
11-25: $55 surplus
26-50: $44 surplus
51-75: $27 surplus
76-100: $13 surplus

[b]Trade Machine[\b]
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/
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New Year, new thread!

Do you need help figuring out what to do with your team? Whether it be rebuilding or contending and want to know the values on certain players please come on in here and ask!

If you have a rough draft deal made out and want suggestions to make it realistic or fair we will gladly help with that as well!

Literally all trading needs of any kind are gladly discussed in here, and feedback is always given.

I will do my best to answer as many questions I can this year as this is one of my favorite threads.

Now. Let the trading season of MLB 20 the Show commence!

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03-13-2020, 09:52 AM	#1
Bard All Star OVR: 7 Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,559	Official MLB 20 the Show Trade Discussion Thread Everyone still kicking from that CoronaVirus? It may have taken down real life baseball, but not our beloved The Show! With that out of the way...HELLO, everyone! Bard is 100% back here and ready for another year of fun trade discussions! I have done this the last few years, and it has been a blast to discuss trades with you all. Now, we have had some discussions on our trade tool being a little iffy on some occasions, and spot on with others. So, if you would like to use it, please do! I will still be using it to help everyone out in here However, there is this awesome site now that you can do trades within it, and if you want to use that I'll even adjust my old ways and help you with that as well! So, below will be our example and also the site for those trades! If anyone finds the updated prospect values just link in the thread and I'll update the example. ------------------------------- Player Calculation Example: You're going to have to find the WAR for the player. We use Baseball Reference as they tend to have the most realistic WAR assessments. We will use Robinson Chirinos of the Texas Rangers for this example. Link: https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...hiriro01.shtml DISTINGUISHING AVERAGE WAR For Position Players, we're going to scroll down to Player Value Batting. You can see that below but keep reading. We need to identify the player's WAR for the past three years. We use a 6 x 3 x 1 method of determining a fair value for the player. Thus we're going to take the 2017 WAR and multiply it by 6. Then we will find the 2016 WAR and multiply it by 3. The 2015 WAR is simply the remaining 10% so there is no need to multiply it. See below. Okay now we have our WARS. We're going to discern our average WAR for Chirinos now. 2017 WAR: 2.7 x 6 = 16.2 2016 WAR: 0.9 x 3 = 2.7 2015 WAR: 1.8 x 1 = 1.8 Add: 16.2+2.7+1.8= 20.7 Now keep in mind, we were using percentages of each season to create our basis so now we need to divide by 10 (6+3+1). That brings Chirinos to a 2.1 WAR (rounding up from 2.07). PINPOINTING TOTAL VALUE Now we're going to create our total value from that WAR number. We've decided among ourselves, using Professional opinions, that the average worth for 1 WAR is 9 Million. So we're going to multiply Chirinos' WAR by 9 and then by the amount of years remaining on his contract. To do that, we're going to scroll down near the bottom where it says Salaries. See below. Okay, now we know how many years Chirinos has remaining in his contract and how much he will be paid for those years. Lets do our math. 2.1(Player WAR) x 9 (WAR Worth) x 2 (Contracted Years Remaining) = 37.8M Total Value There we see that Chirinos is worth a total value of 37.8M. But now we have to identify what his surplus value is. FINALIZING SURPLUS VALUE Surplus is identified using this method: Total Value - Remaining Salary = Surplus Value Using the image above, we can see that Chirinos has approximately $4.63M owed to him in his current contract. We can do our final piece of math now. 37.8 (Total Value) - 4.63 (Remaining Salary) = 33.17M Surplus We will go ahead and round that fourth digit up or down. As it is a 7, we'll round up to a final 33.2M Surplus. Prospect value: Top 100 Hitter: 1-10: $95 surplus 11-25: $75 surplus 26-50: $51 surplus 51-75: $33 surplus 76-100: $18 surplus Top 100 Pitcher: 1-10: $87 surplus 11-25: $55 surplus 26-50: $44 surplus 51-75: $27 surplus 76-100: $13 surplus [b]Trade Machine[\b] https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trade-simulator/ -------------------------------------------------- New Year, new thread! Do you need help figuring out what to do with your team? Whether it be rebuilding or contending and want to know the values on certain players please come on in here and ask! If you have a rough draft deal made out and want suggestions to make it realistic or fair we will gladly help with that as well! Literally all trading needs of any kind are gladly discussed in here, and feedback is always given. I will do my best to answer as many questions I can this year as this is one of my favorite threads. Now. Let the trading season of MLB 20 the Show commence! Sent from my SM-N970U using Tapatalk __________________ Come hang with me on YouTube! I stream/make videos on a variety of games from sports, to action, to adventure! https://youtube.com/@nhbard?si=kOpLZu8evi-aFsnG Last edited by Bard; 03-13-2020 at 11:38 AM.