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  • Dwaresacksqb
    Pro
    • Jun 2009
    • 696

    #1

    Fumbles are not an issue.

    So I have been hearing a lot of rumblings about the Enforcer causing too many fumbles and QBs fumbling too much. What I want to know is how often are you guys giving yourself up when a sack or big hit is imminent? On Sundays you can watch players give themselves up all game long, especially when catching across the middle. In fact you’ll watch defenders dip their shoulder and hit the ball carrier usually in the back kind of landing on him because he’s likely upset he didn’t get that big hit and isn’t going to let the ball carrier get away unscathed. Except for QBs that is. Now if Real football players had to fight for every inch and never give themselves up like I see almost every madden player. We would see way more fumbles and injuries just like we witness in Madden.

    Hopefully EA doesn’t make this game less sim by allowing Sim players to just run around with little fear of injuries and fumbles. That’s not the real NFL.

    To slide/give yourself up in Madden 20, hold down RT/R2, LT/L2, and press X/Square to slide.

    Next time you see an enforcer running towards you I suggest you get down and stop trying to play arcade and then complain the game isn’t being fair to you.
    BoOm!
  • Devaster
    Pro
    • Dec 2008
    • 711

    #2
    Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

    I understand why EA made the changes they did, but a QB scrambling and getting breathed on is almost a guaranteed fumble. It is such an unfair advantage playing against the CPU when the CPU has a scrambling QB.


    Nothing to do with Enforcer. The Big Hitter trait plays a large role though.

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    • reyes the roof
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2009
      • 11525

      #3
      Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

      I feel like in real life big hits don’t really cause fumbles nearly as much as in the game. They might dislodge a ball when a WR is making a catch but bone crushing hits cause fumbles far less often than a well placed helmet on the ball or guys with a good technique for stripping the ball

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      • Devaster
        Pro
        • Dec 2008
        • 711

        #4
        Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

        Originally posted by reyes the roof
        I feel like in real life big hits don’t really cause fumbles nearly as much as in the game. They might dislodge a ball when a WR is making a catch but bone crushing hits cause fumbles far less often than a well placed helmet on the ball or guys with a good technique for stripping the ball

        I'd love if there was a punch mechanic that was dependent on timing. Something akin to what Tillman used to do.

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        • reyes the roof
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 11525

          #5
          Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

          Originally posted by Devaster
          I'd love if there was a punch mechanic that was dependent on timing. Something akin to what Tillman used to do.
          He was so good at punching the ball out, I’d love to see a peanut punch put in the game if the implemented it properly.

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          • xCoachDx
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 1295

            #6
            Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

            You say that fumbles aren’t an issue, and yet QB’s are deliberately designed to fumble at a significantly high rate to make scrambling QB’s balanced in comp play.

            Okay. Lol


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            • Dwaresacksqb
              Pro
              • Jun 2009
              • 696

              #7
              Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

              Originally posted by xCoachDx
              You say that fumbles aren’t an issue, and yet QB’s are deliberately designed to fumble at a significantly high rate to make scrambling QB’s balanced in comp play.

              Okay. Lol


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              Half the league of QBs has a 50% chance of fumbling once a game based on the NFL 2019 season. Guys like Carson Wentz and Daniel Jones fumble the ball more than games played. QBs fumble the ball a lot and I see that reflected in the game. Protect the ball at all times. Btw Wentz has one of the best lines in the NFL and still finds ways to cough it up. Why? Because he likes to extend plays. What do madden players like to do? Extend plays. I bet if you played with the Eagles and coughed it up twice with Wentz you would have an issue. Even though that directly reflects the NFL.
              BoOm!

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              • Dwaresacksqb
                Pro
                • Jun 2009
                • 696

                #8
                Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

                Originally posted by Devaster
                I'd love if there was a punch mechanic that was dependent on timing. Something akin to what Tillman used to do.
                That would be a GREAT ability to add to the game. Who in the NFL do you think would earn that ability? I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head. Pat Tillman as already mentioned would be an example.
                BoOm!

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                • Dwaresacksqb
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 696

                  #9
                  Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

                  Originally posted by reyes the roof
                  I feel like in real life big hits don’t really cause fumbles nearly as much as in the game. They might dislodge a ball when a WR is making a catch but bone crushing hits cause fumbles far less often than a well placed helmet on the ball or guys with a good technique for stripping the ball
                  I understand where you’re coming from and it’s definitely true. But I also think we would see a lot more fumbles from big hits if The players Were careless about where these big hitters are on the field and protecting their body. These big hitters are feared in real life and make a real impact on the game because of that fear. A lot of in years past then today’s NFL but still. How Madden can implement that fear into the person playing against them is something they can continue to work on. Receiving a big hit from one on screen does nothing to make the user fear them if the consequences of that big hit aren’t truly felt. Let’s just hope EA continues to let these enforcers make big impacts going forward however it’s implemented.
                  BoOm!

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                  • xCoachDx
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 1295

                    #10
                    Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

                    Originally posted by Dwaresacksqb
                    Half the league of QBs has a 50% chance of fumbling once a game based on the NFL 2019 season. Guys like Carson Wentz and Daniel Jones fumble the ball more than games played. QBs fumble the ball a lot and I see that reflected in the game. Protect the ball at all times. Btw Wentz has one of the best lines in the NFL and still finds ways to cough it up. Why? Because he likes to extend plays. What do madden players like to do? Extend plays. I bet if you played with the Eagles and coughed it up twice with Wentz you would have an issue. Even though that directly reflects the NFL.

                    Did Lamar Jackson fumble 50% of the time he was tackled? No. Cover ball doesn’t matter on QB scrambles. You are literally trying to say that EA didn’t program the game in a certain way when they absolutely did and for a specific reason. Any Madden regular will tell you the same thing. They have the game function this way to balance out scrambling QB’s in competitive play.


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                    • underdog13
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 3222

                      #11
                      Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

                      Originally posted by xCoachDx
                      Did Lamar Jackson fumble 50% of the time he was tackled? No. Cover ball doesn’t matter on QB scrambles. You are literally trying to say that EA didn’t program the game in a certain way when they absolutely did and for a specific reason. Any Madden regular will tell you the same thing. They have the game function this way to balance out scrambling QB’s in competitive play.


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                      Yeah QB's for the large part fumble while in the pocket and are looking to make a throw. Not scrambling out of the pocket and when they get tackled.
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                      • SonnyFranchise
                        Always Sonny Somewhere
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 553

                        #12
                        Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

                        Originally posted by xCoachDx
                        Did Lamar Jackson fumble 50% of the time he was tackled? No. Cover ball doesn’t matter on QB scrambles. You are literally trying to say that EA didn’t program the game in a certain way when they absolutely did and for a specific reason. Any Madden regular will tell you the same thing. They have the game function this way to balance out scrambling QB’s in competitive play.


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                        Lamar Jackson cant even play like himself in this game because he CONSTANTLY fumbles. Juking or spining with him is too much of a risk
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                        • NYJin2011tm
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 2760

                          #13
                          Re: Fumbles are not an issue.

                          Just played the Falcons and hit stick Julio Jones and he fumbled three times in one half lol.

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