Potential Grades

[onegroove7]

What do the grades for potential (A-D) translate into for overall ratings?

I always figured A was 90+ and B was 80+ overall and so on. Not sure about this.

[JoseJoseph9119]

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What do the grades for potential (A-D) translate into for overall ratings?

I always figured A was 90+ and B was 80+ overall and so on. Not sure about this.

Correct.
A=90-99
B=80-89
C=70-79
D=60-69
F=0-59

A player can exceed his potential too, so you may see a 93 B or a 82 C player. There will also be several D players in the 70s populated by the draft.

[Therebelyell626]

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Correct.
A=90-99
B=80-89
C=70-79
D=60-69
F=0-59

A player can exceed his potential too, so you may see a 93 B or a 82 C player.

This rarely happens though. And if they do exceed there potential, it’s usually only by 1 or 2 overall, and they’re 99.9% going to go back down to their potebtial the next year regardless of performance unless they get a potential increase.

I have been playing the show for over 12 years now, and I have learned to look at potential as an overall cap more than anything. And 85 potential player is more than likely going to stop improving in overall once reaching that 85 number

[maddguuns]

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This rarely happens though. And if they do exceed there potential, it’s usually only by 1 or 2 overall, and they’re 99.9% going to go back down to their potebtial the next year regardless of performance unless they get a potential increase.

I have been playing the show for over 12 years now, and I have learned to look at potential as an overall cap more than anything. And 85 potential player is more than likely going to stop improving in overall once reaching that 85 number

I certainly would bet the ranch on this statement. I've seen players play above their potential long enough that potential changes. I buy the show every 3 years or so but it's been that way since at least 2011.

The first thing I do when I get The show is deep seem a few seasons to see what weird stuff would happen 5, 10, 20 years down the road so I can make adjustments on the franchise that matters to me. In doing so, one example in '20 is Hanser Alberto. He has C potential but in every sim, he plays at an OVR of 83+ and more than half his potential changed to a B by 2022. In at least 2 sims, he hit 90 OVR.

I know it is anecdotal, but it's a representation that there is more going on than we can reasonably assume with general, blanket statements.

I don't know what triggers those types of things, but it's not as simple as playing above by a couple points for a season or two then dropping back and potential never changing.

[Therebelyell626]

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I certainly would bet the ranch on this statement. I've seen players play above their potential long enough that potential changes. I buy the show every 3 years or so but it's been that way since at least 2011.

The first thing I do when I get The show is deep seem a few seasons to see what weird stuff would happen 5, 10, 20 years down the road so I can make adjustments on the franchise that matters to me. In doing so, one example in '20 is Hanser Alberto. He has C potential but in every sim, he plays at an OVR of 83+ and more than half his potential changed to a B by 2022. In at least 2 sims, he hit 90 OVR.

I know it is anecdotal, but it's a representation that there is more going on than we can reasonably assume with general, blanket statements.

I don't know what triggers those types of things, but it's not as simple as playing above by a couple points for a season or two then dropping back and potential never changing.

What your seeing is his “morale” increase overall. Players get inflated overalls in the lineup and roster screens when you match certain criteria to their overall. Go to the morale tab on his player card and you will see what his “real” overall rating is. If your seeing someone’s overall jump from a C to an A, I promise you are doing weird stuff in your franchise. B potential starts at 80. So if you are seeing players jump from C to A, that is a minimum 11 point potential increase. I have never ever seen that much of an increase in the 12 years I have been playing. I am not calling you a liar but are you messing with anything I.E. sliders or team budgets?

[garry1221]

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Correct.
A=90-99
B=80-89
C=70-79
D=60-69
F=0-59

A player can exceed his potential too, so you may see a 93 B or a 82 C player. There will also be several D players in the 70s populated by the draft.

OVR and potential OVR are both fluid numbers. While potential GRADES do give you a good estimate of how good a player will be, I view the grade as how quick/if full potential will be reached. An A potential can jump 5 OVR/yr with good coaches while D may only jump 1 or 2 OVR/yr.

For veteran players, like your examples above, I look at grades as how fast/slow a player will regress. In that regard, I'm not sure I'd call it exceeding potential.

[JoseJoseph9119]

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In the realm of potential grades, what happens if you move a player to a different position that significantly changes his OVR? Example:

I have a 74 OVR SS with 82 potential that I just became a 79 OVR RF. Does this mean that he only has "room" for 3 points of growth now as opposed to 8, therefore developing slower/less? Would the opposite be true, giving players who move to a position they're "worse" at more room to grow?

[garry1221]

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In the realm of potential grades, what happens if you move a player to a different position that significantly changes his OVR? Example:

I have a 74 OVR SS with 82 potential that I just became a 79 OVR RF. Does this mean that he only has "room" for 3 points of growth now as opposed to 8, therefore developing slower/less? Would the opposite be true, giving players who move to a position they're "worse" at more room to grow?

I have no problem moving players if attributes merit the move. I never thought about checking potential OVR numbers before or after the move. Now I'm curious.

[Therebelyell626]

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In the realm of potential grades, what happens if you move a player to a different position that significantly changes his OVR? Example:

I have a 74 OVR SS with 82 potential that I just became a 79 OVR RF. Does this mean that he only has "room" for 3 points of growth now as opposed to 8, therefore developing slower/less? Would the opposite be true, giving players who move to a position they're "worse" at more room to grow?

If you move them to a different position and see an increase in overall, then yes. You will most likely limit their attribute growth at the new position as certain positions value attributes differently. For instance a shortstops overall is highly dependent on defense and speed attributes, while a right Fielder is more dependent on power and arm strength

[JoseJoseph9119]

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If you move them to a different position and see an increase in overall, then yes. You will most likely limit their attribute growth at the new position as certain positions value attributes differently. For instance a shortstops overall is highly dependent on defense and speed attributes, while a right Fielder is more dependent on power and arm strength

That's exactly the case for my new RF, who is somehow hitting .516 this Spring. Would a performance like that(obvious statistical regression notwithstanding) have lifted his mid-70s+ hitting attributes had he stayed at SS? Or was all that potential growth reserved for his mid-40s speed and glove? In other words, can a player "max out" on one particular attribute(without it actually hitting 99) while still under their OVR potential cap?

[beastthesherg]

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This rarely happens though. And if they do exceed there potential, it’s usually only by 1 or 2 overall, and they’re 99.9% going to go back down to their potebtial the next year regardless of performance unless they get a potential increase.

I have been playing the show for over 12 years now, and I have learned to look at potential as an overall cap more than anything. And 85 potential player is more than likely going to stop improving in overall once reaching that 85 number

this. 100% its an ovr cap. just like in 2k.

hint: if a guy has better ovr than his grade prepare for a nosedive after the season, he will not get better. ex 76 ovr D grade.
this is why the stars or old players usually have A grades even though they might be only 82ovr and are done progressing... i guess so they wont fall off drastically even though for example they might be turning 38 and are not improving

[Caulfield]

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figured I'd just piggyback off this thread instead of creating a new thread.

looking for some ideas here, guys:

what I'd like to do is regrade the potential for every player that has no major league playing time, zero service time

the way I'd like to try to do it is have a formula that figures out their potential based on 2 things. age, and what their Overall rating is.
so that a guy that's like 18 years old and already has an Overall of what, something like 70-75, would have the highest potential.

anyone else out there thought about doing something similar, or the same, and already have a formula, or an idea for a formula?
thanks in advance

[jahickory]

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I hate potentials.



I wish they weren't even a thing. Guys go up and down all the time and I think they should do the same in the game based on overall stats.


I think the MILB players are rated too low because even if they are doing great in AAA or AA, when you bring them up, they are so bad because of their low attributes.


There should be some sort of equivalent ratings for calling them up to the show or just redo the whole rating scale to begin with.