Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

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  • 1212headkick
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 1823

    #1

    Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

    yes or no and why do you believe it does or doesnt.
    55
    yes
    0%
    7
    no
    0%
    48

    The poll is expired.

  • DancyHercules3
    Rookie
    • Mar 2014
    • 482

    #2
    Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

    It does but depends heavily on who and which CPU are you fighting. Also how you fight/play the game yourself

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    • 12_Adriyel_12
      Rookie
      • Jul 2019
      • 50

      #3
      Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

      No it doesn't. In certain aspects it does, but not often. Here's why....

      1. Heavy Pressure Fighting is overly successful versus picking your strikes smartly.

      2. Holding Block is a more useful defense than moving your head, it should be the opposite. Look at a real fight, how often do people take bunches of strikes against their forearms versus just moving out of the way or understanding range.

      3. In real grappling, no one is waiting for a transition so you can block it and gain stamina advantage. You can't open and close your guard by choice (UFC Undisputed 3 allows you to).

      4. Ground and Pound is dangerous in real life, UFC 4's GnP is dangerous as well, but if I'm covering up and your punch hits my bicep/shoulder area, that SHOULD NOT knock me out. On UFC Undisputed 3, they had physics come into play where the strikes from Ground n Pound would slip through and rock and/or KO you.

      5. Why can't you get rocked on the ground?

      6. Why can't you catch Ground n Pound strikes into submissions? UFC Undisputed 3 allowed you to catch strikes into submissions.

      7. Being overly aggressive on the feet should result in more stamina loss and higher vulnerability to getting caught by a counter strike.

      8. If you spam the clinch to throw knees and I'm tee'ing off on your head with hooks and hitting you in the body, the clinch should break quicker and/or you should get rocked or even dropped (Anderson Silva vs Chris Weidman).

      9. If I'm out of range to not get hit by a front kick or head kick, don't slide the opponent into place so it still LOOKS like it landed, when it didn't. (Hit Detection needs work)

      10. Transition Blocking shouldn't be highly favoring those players who have PS 4 Pro and a Gaming Monitor / Xbox One X and a Gaming Monitor. I only have a regular PS4 and I know that the players who have a Pro or One X have a grappling advantage when it comes to denying transitions. (Make it an even playing field, no matter what system you're using)
      Last edited by 12_Adriyel_12; 08-24-2020, 01:37 AM.

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      • Painless taken
        Banned
        • Sep 2018
        • 290

        #4
        Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

        No. Never seen anyone throw overhands to leg kicks or vice versa. Never seen jab straight spinning elbow uppercut. Never seen anyone launch a flying knee when badly rocked. Never seen anyone fire a 1,2,1,2 in the middle of my combo on hit. Never seen Amanda Nunes throw 164 strikes in a round. Never seen Israel Aldensanya attempt 8 TDs per round. Never seen someone grab a single collar in the midst of eating flush hooks

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        • MixedMetalArts
          Rookie
          • Apr 2016
          • 80

          #5
          Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

          No for the following reasons:

          Infinite stamina
          Infinite damage
          Dozens of rocks
          Little control of positioning in grapple/clinch
          Playing in a Sim style is punished rather than rewarded
          Every knockout is the same
          Dudes taunt during the fighter ready check
          Still fight dudes 5 times in Career mode and get tweets saying "lucky punch, not impressed" when you are 35-0 and hold all the damn records

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          • mannyonelover
            Pro
            • Apr 2016
            • 645

            #6
            Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

            Nope!! Especially ground and pound and Tko’s.....smh!!


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            • RyanFitzmagic
              MVP
              • Oct 2011
              • 1959

              #7
              Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

              Most of the stuff people are saying in this thread are the fault of the people you're playing against, not the game itself. If you're playing a sports game online against random players and expecting to see realism, your expectations are way too high.

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              • TheUFCVeteran
                Pro
                • May 2016
                • 878

                #8
                Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                Most of the stuff people are saying in this thread are the fault of the people you're playing against, not the game itself. If you're playing a sports game online against random players and expecting to see realism, your expectations are way too high.
                Well, I think a large part of what they mean is mechanically it doesn't mirror a real fight.

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                • BigSmoke
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2018
                  • 148

                  #9
                  Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                  Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                  Most of the stuff people are saying in this thread are the fault of the people you're playing against, not the game itself. If you're playing a sports game online against random players and expecting to see realism, your expectations are way too high.
                  The problem isn't the people that play like that, the problem is that the game rewards the players that play like that and punishes the players that want to play smart.

                  You can't counterstrike and stamina is endless. It encourages a spamfest and it isn't fun.

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                  • DancyHercules3
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 482

                    #10
                    Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                    Originally posted by BigSmoke
                    The problem isn't the people that play like that, the problem is that the game rewards the players that play like that and punishes the players that want to play smart.

                    You can't counterstrike and stamina is endless. It encourages a spamfest and it isn't fun.

                    Have you played the game after the patch? Because stamina is definitely not a thing you can spam anymore

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                    • DCowboys22
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 365

                      #11
                      Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                      Only in small fragments. But overall it doesn’t.

                      Definitely has potential though. But still needs a lot of work on stamina, damage, ground grappling logic and mechanics, etc


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                      • BigSmoke
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2018
                        • 148

                        #12
                        Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                        Originally posted by DancyHercules3
                        Have you played the game after the patch? Because stamina is definitely not a thing you can spam anymore
                        I just looked at the patch notes and only thing I saw referring to stamina was the von flue chain and the marathoner perk - nothing indicating they fixed the overall stamina problem though.

                        My main issue with stamina is the fighters coming out 2nd and 3rd round with jacked up stamina like they never fought a round previously after throwing 150-200 strikes.

                        I think a much larger stamina penalty between rounds and more stamina tax to your opponent when you slip would play a big part in eliminating the stamina issues.

                        I have no problem with people who want to throw 150-200 strikes a round - they just need to be taxed accordingly and the game feels like it currently doesn't do that.

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                        • DancyHercules3
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 482

                          #13
                          Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                          Originally posted by BigSmoke
                          I just looked at the patch notes and only thing I saw referring to stamina was the von flue chain and the marathoner perk - nothing indicating they fixed the overall stamina problem though.

                          My main issue with stamina is the fighters coming out 2nd and 3rd round with jacked up stamina like they never fought a round previously after throwing 150-200 strikes.

                          I think a much larger stamina penalty between rounds and more stamina tax to your opponent when you slip would play a big part in eliminating the stamina issues.

                          I have no problem with people who want to throw 150-200 strikes a round - they just need to be taxed accordingly and the game feels like it currently doesn't do that.

                          The patch note didn’t mention but they definitely tuned stamina. I see a big difference playing the game after the patch. Before I could spam strikes for days.

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                          • tunnelblick24
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2020
                            • 42

                            #14
                            Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                            Originally posted by DancyHercules3
                            The patch note didn’t mention but they definitely tuned stamina. I see a big difference playing the game after the patch. Before I could spam strikes for days.
                            Stamina seems patched because they buffed body strikes. Now people attacking the body and you lose more stamina as result. Stamina in regards of strike amount wasn't patched imo.

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                            • RyanFitzmagic
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1959

                              #15
                              Re: Does ufc 4 mimic a real fight to you?

                              Originally posted by BigSmoke
                              My main issue with stamina is the fighters coming out 2nd and 3rd round with jacked up stamina like they never fought a round previously after throwing 150-200 strikes.
                              That feels like an exaggeration. I've gassed out Max Holloway on fewer strikes per round than that. Granted, that person probably sucked and was whiffing like crazy, but even if you hit the block half the time and connect the other half, there's no way you can come out fresh in Round 2 after throwing 150 strikes in Round 1.

                              Stamina isn't perfect, but it's not good to exaggerate like that.

                              And the game does reward smart, realistic play, it just takes way more skill than other tactics.
                              Last edited by RyanFitzmagic; 08-24-2020, 03:33 PM.

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