Between the EA devs not listening to us fans forever, Operationsports at one time or another banning people or locking threads when we voiced our displeasure about Madden because it was construed as bashing, and the inflated review scores from publications for the better part of the past 15 years since the exclusive license, has led to this abysmal so-called simulation football game called Madden 21. The same Madden 21 that has a 0.4 user metacritic score from nearly 1700 user reviews. If only the EA Sports devs listened and the OP forum administrators let us voice our concerns without being censored, we wouldn't be where we are at today. I hope this will be a lesson learned for the NFL and EA and easily should prove to be the biggest reason why the exclusive simulation license should no longer be exclusive.
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
That was a long time ago m8, and OS had very real incentive to keep things more controlled: EA people posted here regularly. That kind of interaction is worth banning people who can't control their anger.
Now, the community mostly drove them away - which is also why "voicing our concerns" didn't have much to do with the negative state of the game. And in fact, OS's forums actually improved the game. How do you think Dustin Smith got a job there? By posting his uniform and equipment insights, which they noticed, because they were here. Say what you want about equipment and uniforms, but it's WAY and I mean WAY better than it was ten years ago. What "Ratings Adjustin Smith," formerly Equipment Guru and Shooter McGavin has accomplished is very important. The guy almost single handedly made equipment and uniforms respectable. I don't know how much of that he does now, but that takes away nothing of what he's done.Last edited by ForUntoOblivionSoar∞; 08-31-2020, 07:25 AM.https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056Originally posted by Therebelyell626
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
I most definitely didn’t like how mods were banning members for voicing their frustrations. I always had a vibe OS wore a cape for Madden and I didn’t like it. The mods were quick to lock up threads that were worthy of a discussion and in some cases make members look foolish for their reason of locking the thread like we’re peasants not worthy of expressing our views.
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
No, it's been as recent as this year unfortunately. However, the mods/admins have been noticeably more lenient in recent weeks, letting people vent and settle their differences. I applaud it.Comment
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
Sales is the only thing that matters. Not the people that purchased the game & still complains anyway. You ALREADY GAVE EA YOUR MONEY & THIS IS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT COMPLAINING IF YOU PURCHASED THIS GAME KNOWING HOW IT WOULD BE. If this game still sells well because people BROUGHT IT ANYWAY nothing will change as EA DOES NOT CARE they got your money ANYWAY
EA IS NOT EVEN STUPID ONES HERE. THEY KNOW A LARGE CROWD WILL NO MATTER WHAT BUY THEIR PRODUCTS. THE CUSTOMERS THAT STILL PURCHASED THE GAME & ARE STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ARE THE STUPID ONESLast edited by TheRandomOne; 08-31-2020, 07:56 AM.Comment
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
While I generally agree that consumers should be more aware of the product they are buying, it’s ridiculous to suggest that paying customers don’t have every right to express their displeasure. Especially when the company creating the product, in this case EA, has an established track record of lying about the upcoming product.
Like, do paying customers not even have the right to complain about the many horrible bugs in the game? Or do you think that should not be allowed?Comment
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
I want to make this crystal clear so it's understood about us. There has never, EVER, been a time Steve or Millennium has told us how to moderate the site regarding a direction. What I mean, is we've never been told to censor negative conversation regarding any game. I'm not aware of any incentive we have to do so (meaning if it exists, it doesn't spread to the moderators).
It was mentioned above and it's 100% accurate that the only rule we've always had is that bashing of developers has never been allowed as it's not helpful. They did used to come here actively and we did our best to continue to have an environment to come to but we didn't even do enough to promote that so I think it's pretty unfair to say we've gone over the top with banning/closing thread.
We've always asked for mature, healthy discussion that has some productivity to it. More often than not, when someone is over the top mad about the game, that tends to come out in their posts and threads.
It doesn't bother me that you think OS moderation had a hand in how Madden got to where it is today but in my opinion it is not an accurate opinion. We've had many threads where the overall connotation of the thread is negative that we've kept open and even participated in (in case you were wondering, it is NOT a requirement to be a Madden fan to be a mod).
There is even one open right now.
All we've ever asked for is mature discussion which hasn't always happened. Without naming names, there are posters here who know who they are who have been extremely vocal with complaints and they are still here today. You know why? They know how to express themselves very articulately.
It really is okay to hate the game, that's isn't against the TOS. Being a dick is.Comment
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
I've seen this a million times. Someone posts 'I bleeping hate this bleeping game. Bleep EA you bleeping bleepers" then they later go "well, gee... all I did was offer criticism" when they are banned or whatever.Comment
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
Just over the past weekend, there have been posts that bought race into the picture... "shut up and dribble" and that people are getting banned quicker because of "skin color." I've been here for almost 18 years and not once have I felt like there was some type of discrimination happening. Those type of comments along with other over the top comments that are personal attacks on another human being should be dealt with accordingly. I don't think there is anything wrong with criticizing Madden or any other game; and trust I definitely believe in free speech. But, just because you have the right to say what you want, doesn't mean you always should...especially when there are consequences that come with it. Use W-I-S-D-O-M."Dunks are tough, but when a 35 footer come rainin out the sky...it'll wire you up"Comment
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
I've been here 10 years and I don't there's been many if any times I've seen someone banned that wasn't totally called for. Always a clear violation of the TOS. I've seen plenty of threads get out of hand gettimg closed and good discussions get shut down but that's usually because it invited too much controversy and personal attacks.
Madden 10 had so much stuff put into from what was said here on these forums from Ian and Co. I think sales and analytics have decided the direction of Madden moreso than any forum or website. And it was gonna happen regardless of what was said or done here.
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
When its a YEARLY RELEASE & its THE SAME PROBLEMS ON TOP OF NEW ONES YEAR AFTER YEAR. Whats that old saying ? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results ? EA is taking advantage of the customers because THEY KNOW there will be those that NO MATTER WHAT BUY THEIR PRODUCTS. Until Madden fails & STOPS MAKING MONEY NOTHING WILL CHANGE. EA WILL NEVER GIVE A DAMN BECAUSE THE SAME PEOPLE COMPLAINING NOW WILL BUY THE PRODUCT NEXT YEAR & THIS IS ALL EA CARES ABOUT IN THE END & THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT. ANYONE THAT PURCHASED THE GAME THIS YEAR & COMPLAINING NOW CANT COMPLAIN & CANT COMPLAIN NEXT YEAR EITHER. EA ONLY CARES ABOUT ONE THING & UNTIL THAT ONE THING IS GONE THEY WILL NEVER CARE AS SHOWN TIME & TIME AGAIN
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Re: Getting banned in the past for criticism of Madden is what brought us to #nfldrop
Hopefully the decision makers at EA are aware by now of how much the Madden community has been fractured over the past couple months. This amount of discontent and outrage is unsustainable in the long run. Madden won’t thrive in the long term without some semblance of stability in the community. And if EA doesn’t know that today, they probably never will.Comment
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