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  • BigOrangeVol4Life
    Pro
    • Dec 2013
    • 769

    #1

    Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

    I haven’t bought the game yet, but has anyone ever lowered the out of the box accuracy ratings for all starting and backup quarterbacks on every team by 10 or so?

    Would this have a greater effect in reducing the unrealistic completion percentages we’re seeing out of the box or do you believe slider adjustments are still the way to go?

    I’d like to see the elite CPU qb’s complete around 65% of their passes and the backups and less talented starting CPU qb’s complete 50% to 55% or so.

    If it’s advisable to reduce another attribute besides just accuracy, I’d like to hear it also.
    Last edited by BigOrangeVol4Life; 08-30-2020, 09:00 PM.
  • tuckermaine
    Banned
    • Nov 2017
    • 922

    #2
    Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

    Originally posted by BigOrangeVol4Life
    I haven’t bought the game yet, but has anyone ever lowered the out of the box accuracy ratings for all starting and backup quarterbacks on every team by 10 or so?

    Would this have a greater effect in reducing the unrealistic completion percentages we’re seeing out of the box or do you believe slider adjustments are still the way to go?

    I’d like to see the elite CPU qb’s complete around 65% of their passes and the backups and less talented starting CPU qb’s complete 50% to 55% or so.

    If it’s advisable to reduce another attribute besides just accuracy, I’d like to hear it also.
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    • CujoMatty
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      • Oct 2007
      • 5445

      #3
      Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

      I played my first season on all Pro and before every game I lowered the opposition QBs short medium and long accuracy by 20. Had amazing results. Doing so drops their overall massively so I figured it would be smart to raise them once the game was over.

      Won the super bowl with a pretty mediocre team though so season 2 I'm playing on All Madden. Lowered the attributes and the cpu still has high 70s low 80s completion rates so im now not sure what to do.
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      • pokeballer246
        Rookie
        • Sep 2019
        • 7

        #4
        Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

        It depends on the sliders you use, traits, you know the player stuff. Don’t try to fully replicate real life, It could be your defense too. I would just try to get the game stats in general like carries or pass attempts in check rather than the completion %

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        • therizing02
          MVP
          • Apr 2003
          • 4176

          #5
          Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

          Originally posted by pokeballer246
          It depends on the sliders you use, traits, you know the player stuff. Don’t try to fully replicate real life, It could be your defense too. I would just try to get the game stats in general like carries or pass attempts in check rather than the completion %
          I agree with this. I've never bought into the idea of QBs in Madden being too accurate. It's a combination of the CPU's lack of deep ball, not willing to throw the ball away, dink and dunk offense, and user DBs not in positions to make plays on the ball. NFL QBs rarely miss wide open receivers, especially under 10 yards.

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          • TarHeelPhenom
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 7125

            #6
            Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

            I took Cujo's advice and I have been lowering the short, medium and deep accuracy ratings by "-20" on a game by game basis and have def seen changes. QB's still hit between 55-70% of their passes depending on how good they are. But, you do see more errant throws.

            My question is, if a QB has low Short Accuracy and high Deep Accuracy that they would throw deep more? Kinda like in basketball, it a guy has a 15 3pt shooting rating but 75 mid-range that they would take more mid-range shots no matter the play call?
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            • tommycoa
              MVP
              • Nov 2008
              • 4982

              #7
              Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

              Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
              I took Cujo's advice and I have been lowering the short, medium and deep accuracy ratings by "-20" on a game by game basis and have def seen changes. QB's still hit between 55-70% of their passes depending on how good they are. But, you do see more errant throws.

              My question is, if a QB has low Short Accuracy and high Deep Accuracy that they would throw deep more? Kinda like in basketball, it a guy has a 15 3pt shooting rating but 75 mid-range that they would take more mid-range shots no matter the play call?
              In creating classic players/teams in the past, I’ve always gave the deep throwing qbs a higher deep throw accuracy than short and it did get them throwing deep more.
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              • TarHeelPhenom
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 7125

                #8
                Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

                Originally posted by tommycoa
                In creating classic players/teams in the past, I’ve always gave the deep throwing qbs a higher deep throw accuracy than short and it did get them throwing deep more.
                That makes sense to me. That those ratings would be more like Hot/Cold spots rather than how accurate they are at throwing a pass that distance. I'm probably wrong on that tho. But, I'm gonna test it out tonight and see what happens.
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                • SolidSquid
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 3159

                  #9
                  Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

                  My issue isn’t with qb accuracy, I actually think it’s pretty good this year and pressure seems to really effect throws if you don’t have a qb with an ability that cancels it out.

                  The issue with high completion percentages is defender AI in pass coverage is beyond awful. In zone defenders ignore threats and continue back pedaling even after the ball has been released by the qb. In man corners routinely turn the wrong way to allow wrs to be wiiiide open.

                  Blue deep zones are the worst, they play like they have no responsibility besides back pedal.

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                  • Jagsfan24
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 1864

                    #10
                    Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

                    Originally posted by SolidSquid
                    My issue isn’t with qb accuracy, I actually think it’s pretty good this year and pressure seems to really effect throws if you don’t have a qb with an ability that cancels it out.

                    The issue with high completion percentages is defender AI in pass coverage is beyond awful. In zone defenders ignore threats and continue back pedaling even after the ball has been released by the qb. In man corners routinely turn the wrong way to allow wrs to be wiiiide open.

                    Blue deep zones are the worst, they play like they have no responsibility besides back pedal.
                    That would explain why on many times I play press man coverage and shade to the inside but yet still have the cpu wrs get wide open on slants or IN routes

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                    • Mackrel829
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 1261

                      #11
                      Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

                      Originally posted by therizing02
                      I agree with this. I've never bought into the idea of QBs in Madden being too accurate. It's a combination of the CPU's lack of deep ball, not willing to throw the ball away, dink and dunk offense, and user DBs not in positions to make plays on the ball. NFL QBs rarely miss wide open receivers, especially under 10 yards.
                      I'd agree with this.

                      NFL QBs don't necessarily put it deaf on the money every single time, especially as the distance of the throw increases, but it's very rare that they'll completely miss a guy. Outside of the odd throw here or there that is slightly behind the route, or is a little too high for the receiver to come down with, it's tough to pick out too many inaccurate throws on a game to game basis. Most incompletions are a result of good coverage, a drop, a throw away, etc.

                      High completion % is definitely a result of the AI coverage being terrible, and the CPU's willingness to check it down. CPU QBs go deep more often on All Madden, so I'm optimistic completion % will come down on this difficulty once patches have come out and sliders have been tweaked.

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                      • SolidSquid
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 3159

                        #12
                        Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

                        Originally posted by Jagsfan24
                        That would explain why on many times I play press man coverage and shade to the inside but yet still have the cpu wrs get wide open on slants or IN routes
                        Go back and watch the replays if you want to infuriate yourself lol. Youll shade inside, wrs will run a slant and your DB will do a 360 opening up towards the outside first.

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                        • Steve_OS
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                          • ac14m
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                            • Nov 2018
                            • 20

                            #14
                            Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

                            Originally posted by Mackrel829
                            I'd agree with this.

                            NFL QBs don't necessarily put it deaf on the money every single time, especially as the distance of the throw increases, but it's very rare that they'll completely miss a guy. Outside of the odd throw here or there that is slightly behind the route, or is a little too high for the receiver to come down with, it's tough to pick out too many inaccurate throws on a game to game basis. Most incompletions are a result of good coverage, a drop, a throw away, etc.

                            High completion % is definitely a result of the AI coverage being terrible, and the CPU's willingness to check it down. CPU QBs go deep more often on All Madden, so I'm optimistic completion % will come down on this difficulty once patches have come out and sliders have been tweaked.
                            QB accuracy is something i feel madden just doesnt get. In real life the most accurate quarterbacks are apparent on almost every throw, they can hit tight windows, find different angles, lead receivers properly. Where as the less accurate QB's arent necessarily missing throws but they dont have the same ability to hit certain spots.

                            EA thinks that a throw is either completely accurate or inaccurate but personally I dont think that is black and white. Like you said certain balls can be a little behind or a little in front of a reciever. EA does a bad job with having the less accurate qb's just missing simple throws completely but then still having the same throwing abilities on tougher angle throws like corners.

                            There really needs to be a better gray area with qb accuracy. Something like a better pass lead feature that qb's like brees can really take advantage of.

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                            • Madden08PCgmr
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                              • Feb 2017
                              • 2441

                              #15
                              Re: Reducing accuracy ratings for all QB’s in Madden 21

                              Will this ever end guys? (no sarcasm, Im seriously asking..)

                              Robo QB has been a problem forever. But what would you have them do? Code it so you can't complete 50%? Nerf defenders as All-Madden does, so every standing defender runs and covers like Deion??

                              Sadly, I think Robo QB is the game today. 70% completion was unheard of 20 years ago. Now its becoming the standard of excellence.

                              And look at QB rating. Joe Montana is easily 1 of the 3 best QBs I've ever seen. Without a doubt the most efficient, in an era where you could still bloody the QB. Montana is now 15th career passer rating (92.3) JARED GOFF is only 4 tenths of a point behind him (91.9)

                              I don't think this one is ever going away. Robo QB isn't just "in the game"... it IS the game.

                              .. but don't get me wrong, I would love to see a time where we didn't have to try a dozen different slider sets to establish gameplay that is fun and enjoyable.
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