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  • SeaTownGamer
    MVP
    • Jul 2015
    • 1560

    #1

    If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

    I get it, it makes EA tons of money but there’s nothing sim about Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Ray Lewis, Ronnie Lot, Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders being in the same team. There’s nothing sim about buying and opening packs to build your team...It’s just not realistic. I know I might get heat from MUT Heads but this mode isn’t sim at all to me. Until they realize this, nothing is going to be sim about Madden.

    We all know it’s all the about the profits and they’ll continue to pour all their resources into MUT and forget about us franchise guys.


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    Last edited by SeaTownGamer; 08-31-2020, 07:11 PM.
  • SolidSquid
    MVP
    • Aug 2014
    • 3157

    #2
    Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

    Originally posted by SeaTownGamer
    I get it, it makes EA tons of money but there’s nothing sim about Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Ray Lewis, Ronnie Lot, Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders being in the same team. There’s nothing sim about buying and opening packs to build your team...It’s just not realistic. I know I might get heat from MUT Heads but this mode isn’t sim at all to me. Until they realize this, nothing is going to be sim about Madden.

    We all know it’s all the about the profits and they’ll continue to pour all their resources into MUT and forget about us franchise guys.


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    Issue is they don’t want the game to be sim, they just don’t want another company to have the ability to out due them like happened with NBA Live.

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    • Rondo is GOD
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 2525

      #3
      Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

      I say it every year, why are they allowed by the NFL to make up their own game modes when they can't even properly replicate the reason they should exist in the first place.

      Baffling. (But not really, its all about money)
      Last edited by Rondo is GOD; 08-31-2020, 07:54 PM.
      Originally posted by Balldude777
      In this case the lasagna restaurant started selling candy to kids and that became the best revenue stream so they’ve let the lasagna get worse and focused on becoming a candy store. The problem is this restaurant bought the rights to make lasagna so if we want lasagna we can only go to this place.

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      • Heisman
        Pro
        • Dec 2007
        • 527

        #4
        Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

        I don’t get it either. They could easily make a free game with micro transactions like fortnight.

        Sadly, UT has been in Madden going back to the days of Madden cards.
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        • Shizz420
          Rookie
          • Mar 2004
          • 175

          #5
          Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

          They should split the games: MUT and The Yard one game, and Madden sim the other.

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          • SeaTownGamer
            MVP
            • Jul 2015
            • 1560

            #6
            If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

            Originally posted by Shizz420
            They should split the games: MUT and The Yard one game, and Madden sim the other.

            Agree they should make MUT free to play and constantly update it like Fortnite, Warzone and Apex and the other game that u pay for have franchise, head coach, career, face of franchise, ECT. Look at how Modern Warfare did it. It works.


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            • Mackrel829
              MVP
              • Mar 2019
              • 1263

              #7
              Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

              They don't want the game to be SIM.

              They want to make money, and will make the game makes them the most money. They couldn't care less if it's SIM, arcade or anything else.

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              • Mauler97
                MVP
                • May 2003
                • 1036

                #8
                Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                Originally posted by Mackrel829
                They don't want the game to be SIM.

                They want to make money, and will make the game makes them the most money. They couldn't care less if it's SIM, arcade or anything else.
                The point is they have exclusive rights to "SIM" NFL Football but they put less than nothing into making a SIM game.
                I agree with you, the contract between the NFL and EA is all about the money and a slap in the face to us fans.
                I am finding the well deserved PR mess quite amusing. I hope it hurts EA enough to do something about it.
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                • PhillyPhanatic14
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 4823

                  #9
                  Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                  Originally posted by Mauler97
                  The point is they have exclusive rights to "SIM" NFL Football but they put less than nothing into making a SIM game.
                  I agree with you, the contract between the NFL and EA is all about the money and a slap in the face to us fans.
                  I am finding the well deserved PR mess quite amusing. I hope it hurts EA enough to do something about it.

                  Arguments like this make 0 sense. The amount of money games like this make every year silence any hate they get online. Did the dude winning the championship series with a punter change anything in M21? Nope. After that they introduced the Yard. EA releases Madden to make money.

                  And honestly, as much as people love to hate on MUT, they still need the simulation license to include that in the game. They have licensed players, uniforms, stadiums, equipment, etc in that mode. They have true to life NFL rules in that mode. Just because you can buy cards and level them up doesn't make it not sim. The gameplay is still a simulation of the NFL.

                  There's so many of these threads popping up on here recently and I get that people are all upset about the game and in the mood to complain, but it's barking up the wrong tree. The simulation license does not mean a game focused on franchise mode. It means a game that simulates the NFL and whether people like it or not Madden does that.

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                  • Madden08PCgmr
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 2386

                    #10
                    Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                    "If Madden wants to sim"...

                    EA wants to be profitable, as does every business around the world.

                    MUT is a limitless revenue stream, at least as long as EA continues to provide worthwhile content. Judging by the result so far, fans cant get enough. (I don't think its a good thing that comes from little Timmy using mommys credit card.. but thats another topic for another time)

                    It would be awesome to live in a world where EA only cared about making a great football game. That's not the reality we live in, unfortunately.

                    I think our only hope for football gaming, so long as the exclusive license exists, is something like Maximum Football continuing to progress and innovate.
                    You want free speech?
                    Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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                    • asantead22
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 386

                      #11
                      Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                      Originally posted by SeaTownGamer
                      I get it, it makes EA tons of money but there’s nothing sim about Tom Brady, Jerry Rice, Ray Lewis, Ronnie Lot, Barry Sanders and Deion Sanders being in the same team. There’s nothing sim about buying and opening packs to build your team...It’s just not realistic. I know I might get heat from MUT Heads but this mode isn’t sim at all to me. Until they realize this, nothing is going to be sim about Madden.

                      We all know it’s all the about the profits and they’ll continue to pour all their resources into MUT and forget about us franchise guys.


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                      The problem is more about the gameplay than the MUT concept. A true sim game will focus on fundamentals such as 3,5 and 7 steps when passing the ball. Throwing correctly not off back foot!!! EA focus more on flash and wow moments than simulation. QBs dropping 20 yds back and completing passes. QBs rolling and throwing perfect passes cross their body. Circus catches and unrealistic dive catches, one handed catches, etc..... real simulation must be boring to EA!!


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                      • Therebelyell626
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 2834

                        #12
                        Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                        This ship has sailed a long, long time ago

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                        • 4thQtrStre5S
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 3054

                          #13
                          Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                          I bet if I started a thread titled, "Define 'SIM'" there would be pages upon pages of variations of what SIM means to each individual.

                          I feel bad for the developers having to try and meet all those perspectives on what SIM should be to the various Madden consumers.

                          If I worked at EA I would be blocking a lot of people. Sorry, not sorry.

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                          • PhillyPhanatic14
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 4823

                            #14
                            Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                            Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                            I bet if I started a thread titled, "Define 'SIM'" there would be pages upon pages of variations of what SIM means to each individual.

                            I feel bad for the developers having to try and meet all those perspectives on what SIM should be to the various Madden consumers.

                            If I worked at EA I would be blocking a lot of people. Sorry, not sorry.

                            Sim is defined easily - "whatever I need it to mean to justify why the part of Madden that I love doesn't get enough attention"

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                            • JoshC1977
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 11569

                              #15
                              Re: If Madden wants to be sim then MUT shouldn’t be their highest priority

                              Originally posted by 4thQtrStre5S
                              I bet if I started a thread titled, "Define 'SIM'" there would be pages upon pages of variations of what SIM means to each individual.
                              You could cobble together a rough definition of "a believable facsimile of football that follows the general rules and strategies of the game".

                              The problem is the word "believable"....because what is believable to one person isn't to 100000 others.

                              Basically the definition boils down to "whatever I think is right".
                              Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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