Can anyone help me with the PES learning curve?

[TexasRyan]

I'm pretty new as a fan to the sport and playing FIFA 20 this year really got me into it. I watched some real life games when it first returned, but I've played a TON of FIFA. I don't have a ton of fancy dribbling moves but I've got to where I can play the CPU competitively on Legendary with 4 minute quarters and no sliders.

Can anyone recommend me some settings for PES 21 so I can get a similar experience? It took me a while to get used to FIFA 20 but at least now I'm used to it lol. PES is like a completely different monster so I don't even know where to begin. I'd like to have the same controls as FIFA if at all possible that way I can go back and forth between games. Want a similar challenge from the computer as I get on Legendary in FIFA (might need it to be a little easier since the game plays differently.)

And I guess any other tips and hints and etc. would be great bc again it's a completely different game than FIFA and I'm barely familiar with the sport.

[sva91]

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From what I remember, fifa was all about fast players and skill tricks. PES is all about finding space, smart passing, give and go passing. Knowing when to press. I only use a handful of skill moves a game, and it’s usually just when my wingers are 1v1 outside the box.

Don’t spam turbo, unless you have a lot of free space in front. You can feel difference w close dribble players like Messi who can dribble in tight spots and change directions quickly.


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[jrnlgrn]

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I play mostly FIFA as well so I feel your pain. I've played PES off and on for a few years now.

• Don't go straight to the most difficult level. Regular or Pro should be a decent enough challenge to start. No need to frustrate yourself even more by playing on the hardest difficulty.
  
• Switch your controls to alternate. That gives you the same button layout as FIFA. Here's an link that goes in depth...
  

  https://realsport101.com/pes/pes-2021-controls-complete-guide-goalkeeper-defence-attack-on-ps4-and-xbox-one-dribbling-passing-shooting-tactics-gameplay-season-update/

  
  
• SLOW DOWN! Play like they do in real life. In FIFA it's go! go! go! The pace of PES is closer to real life so. It's okay to take second and think. look around the field plan your moves.
  
• Be prepared to lose at first it's going to happen...probably a lot.
  
• You don't have to worry about skill moves yet. All that advanced FIFA skill stuff is rarely scene in a real game. Might be necessary on the hardest levels here but you should be fine just passing it around and looking for good opportunities.

That's what I can think of right now. Good luck!

[TexasRyan]

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Yeah I can't beat guys one on one with dribble moves, which isn't a big deal. However, I would like to be able to hit that spin move and it's kind of difficult I keep trying it and I can't do it. It's easy in Fifa you just spin the stick. The game feels pretty decent though I'm enjoying it. Regular is probably too easy but I'm using it to get a hang of it.

Is there anyway to get auto subs? I thought I changed it to autosub at halftime but then during the game it still said to click the middle button for subs and wanted me to do it manually so idk.

Also wondering if they have second team units for each team or if you have to manually make those like in FIFA. Outside of that, anything else I need to know?

[lareka]

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If you have an opportunity try playing "soccer" with your friends more often. It will help too. I mean real "soccer" not online. Because PES is more like a simulation than an arcade type of game. It will help you

[hitmanwa]

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Pass the ball around, know your formation and use tactics.
Left stick dribbling seems better this year.
Body feint and double touch are probably the best/only skill moves you need.
Keep your back line intact, use your dmf to protect them.
Watch the body language and body shaping.
Controlled shot can be lethal, use your strong foot.
Low Lofted+Weighted+Through Ball=holy smokes

Things I don’t like so far...ai and ai switching is meh. Had my two CBs run into each other and fall down. Guys are easily bullied sometimes.

Pesep has a video for fifa to PES converts.

Always up for a match...hitmanwa...even if I show offline.

[KG]

Re: Can anyone help me with the PES learning curve?

Pass the ball around, know your formation and use tactics.
Left stick dribbling seems better this year.
Body feint and double touch are probably the best/only skill moves you need.
Keep your back line intact, use your dmf to protect them.
Watch the body language and body shaping.
Controlled shot can be lethal, use your strong foot.
Low Lofted+Weighted+Through Ball=holy smokes

Things I don’t like so far...ai and ai switching is meh. Had my two CBs run into each other and fall down. Guys are easily bullied sometimes.

Pesep has a video for fifa to PES converts.

Always up for a match...hitmanwa...even if I show offline.

Great points

To add one thing... know/learn your players. It’s always good to know about them from tea life but look at their playing styles (goal poacher, dummy runner, etc...). That dictates how they’ll move off the ball which helps you tailor your tactics.


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[hitmanwa]

Re: Can anyone help me with the PES learning curve?

Great points

To add one thing... know/learn your players. It’s always good to know about them from tea life but look at their playing styles (goal poacher, dummy runner, etc...). That dictates how they’ll move off the ball which helps you tailor your tactics.


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Yes, very good point. If a player turns to face you pass to feet. If he throws his hand up then a through all. PES mobile YouTube videos are good to see the player types and what they do. I don’t know why but, they just do a really good job at explaining say an orchestrator and his area of play.

[RoyceDa59]

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Yes, very good point. If a player turns to face you pass to feet. If he throws his hand up then a through all. PES mobile YouTube videos are good to see the player types and what they do. I don’t know why but, they just do a really good job at explaining say an orchestrator and his area of play.

Yeah i just stumbled upon those videos a few weeks ago. I have no idea why that isn't in game.

[TexasRyan]

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Is there any button to kind of defend the ball like LT does in FIFA? And it also puts them in a defensive stance on defense in FIFA, can you do those things in PES?

[KG]

Re: Can anyone help me with the PES learning curve?

Is there any button to kind of defend the ball like LT does in FIFA? And it also puts them in a defensive stance on defense in FIFA, can you do those things in PES?

R1 - default setup
R2 - alternate setup


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[TexasRyan]

Re: Can anyone help me with the PES learning curve?

R1 - default setup
R2 - alternate setup


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Haha I'm an idiot I thought R2 on alternate was turbo what is turbo? Also, I'm curious is there any way to turn on auto subs? I thought I did but it still wants me to click and send in subs.

[KG]

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Haha I'm an idiot I thought R2 on alternate was turbo what is turbo? Also, I'm curious is there any way to turn on auto subs? I thought I did but it still wants me to click and send in subs.

Wait...I have that backwards so I’m the idiot [emoji23]

R1 on Alternate
R2 on default

I’m not sure about auto subs. I usually use quick [emoji2375]


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[RoyceDa59]

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Haha I'm an idiot I thought R2 on alternate was turbo what is turbo? Also, I'm curious is there any way to turn on auto subs? I thought I did but it still wants me to click and send in subs.

See pic below, you can chose when and how they occur whether you want them early in the match and very late. I sometimes choose flexible.

Spoiler

[TexasRyan]

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Wait...I have that backwards so I’m the idiot [emoji23]

R1 on Alternate
R2 on default

I’m not sure about auto subs. I usually use quick [emoji2375]

Haha no it's all good I'm glad you were wrong bc this makes more sense lol.

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See pic below, you can chose when and how they occur whether you want them early in the match and very late. I sometimes choose flexible.

Spoiler

Ahh I did that but I'm not noticing that they make any subs? Two more questions, I'm starting to get the hang of things. One is there any way to do that on the main menu or do you have to do it each game?

Also, is there any way to get the player you're using's name to show up above their icon? Having it at the bottom of the scream is a little inconvenient bc I don't look down there often.