New face scans?

[vetmin]

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The myth of players having to sit down for re scanning to get updated hair/beard/tattoos was debunked years ago. If the player scan is already in place like the list I mentioned then 2k is more than capable of updating their appearance without them re sitting for a scan

Theyre clearly trying to do a new round of scans for everyone though. Theyre not going to bother updating an old scan thats going to be completely out of date soon anyway. Thats just bad allocation of labor. Do all the guys you listed even have their new scans yet? Im not on patch 1.04 yet, but i know on 1.03 butler, AD, and others are still their old scans. If those guys do have new scans and theyre already out of date, then thats just reality of guys changing their hairstyles every other day. I cant blame 2k for waiting to refresh everyone’s personal style when the season starts.

My comment was not directed at you only though, just to be clear. Theres also been complaining about old scans in next-gen footage. Big picture-wise, my point is just that unlike most years, when the launch of a new 2k is both a gameplay launch and a new roster launch, this year due to the pandemic, 2k21’s launch was only a gameplay launch (and it wouldve been unreasonable to expect otherwise). Roster-wise, 2k21 isnt out yet. You’re playing a roster that is still in the thick of development. Even next-gen wont be a full, clean, dual gameplay+roster launch like in a typical year. 2k21 will not be truly ‘out’ until like early-mid January.

[Tynole14]

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Theyre clearly trying to do a new round of scans for everyone though. Theyre not going to bother updating an old scan thats going to be completely out of date soon anyway. Thats just bad allocation of labor. Do all the guys you listed even have their new scans yet? Im not on patch 1.04 yet, but i know on 1.03 butler, AD, and others are still their old scans. If those guys do have new scans and theyre already out of date, then thats just reality of guys changing their hairstyles every other day. I cant blame 2k for waiting to refresh everyone’s personal style when the season starts.

My comment was not directed at you only though, just to be clear. Theres also been complaining about old scans in next-gen footage. Big picture-wise, my point is just that unlike most years, when the launch of a new 2k is both a gameplay launch and a new roster launch, this year due to the pandemic, 2k21’s launch was only a gameplay launch (and it wouldve been unreasonable to expect otherwise). Roster-wise, 2k21 isnt out yet. You’re playing a roster that is still in the thick of development. Even next-gen wont be a full, clean, dual gameplay+roster launch like in a typical year. 2k21 will not be truly ‘out’ until like early-mid January.

Well, even for the release of nba 2k20 there weren't many face scans either. And that wasn't during a pandemic.

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[vetmin]

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Well, even for the release of nba 2k20 there weren't many face scans either. And that wasn't during a pandemic.

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...and it would've been a fair criticism then. In normal times, when the game's dev/launch cycle is synced to the season and there's no pandemic screwing things up, it's perfectly fair to treat and critique the game like a finished product, but it was obvious in this case that any aspect of the game that depends on collaboration with the NBA (league office, teams, players) was going to be incomplete -- both because the NBA has had bigger fish to fry since March and because 2K is unable to predict the future, like the Lakers winning the Finals and Kuzma being inspired to get a new Larry O'B-themed hairdo for the new 2021 season. Regardless of when the game comes out, there's just no way around the fact that the only sensible time for a substantive, polished roster update (and by that I mean scans, accessories, jerseys, logos, stadium designs, etc.) is the start of the new NBA season. When that rolls around and Oubre still looks like a puffer-fish, THEN the pitchforks can reasonably come out.

Also re: face scans for 2k21, even if in previous years they didn't update everyone, it seems like a full re-scan was/is the plan this year, probably because they want new scans for next-gen. I just can't imagine a world where they would decide they need a re-scan of Jordan Poole but not the better 99% of the NBA. If they really are aiming to do new scans for everyone that they can, it's not unreasonable that they'd aim for the 2021 season launch as their deadline for scans and any CGI designs / style changes for anyone who couldn't do a scan.

[Morty3PointKing]

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[Tynole14]

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They just add this on current gen 2k21?

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[aeroneflores]

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I'm sure 2K had KD in for a official scan some time this summer since he wasn't in the bubble because his front view face scan is way to good for it to be done by hand. They didn't modify the existent scan either becsuse the difference are too drastic.

Now my question is, how did they mess up on his head shape?? It is really bad. 20201014_154729.jpeg

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[J_Posse]

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Well, even for the release of nba 2k20 there weren't many face scans either. And that wasn't during a pandemic.

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You can't reasonable believe they can get 450+ players to semi - annually re - scan their face.

That is unreasonable & impractical, homie.

The athlete needs to make themselves available - which they can always say no - likely when they're in the northern California area. Which could be once a year for eastern conference teams.

Everyone needs to just chill & realize a big update likely isn't in the works until rookies, jerseys, other art assets & roster updates are added.

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[Tynole14]

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You can't reasonable believe they can get 450+ players to semi - annually re - scan their face.

That is unreasonable & impractical, homie.

The athlete needs to make themselves available - which they can always say no - likely when they're in the northern California area. Which could be once a year for eastern conference teams.

Everyone needs to just chill & realize a big update likely isn't in the works until rookies, jerseys, other art assets & roster updates are added.

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When did I ever say anything about getting 450+ players to get re- scanned?
I was just stating , I see people saying give them a break because of the pandemic. And it's noted but they did the exact same thing of 2k20 release with no pandemic. Barely updated any player likeness updates. This is a company that is worth 2.2 billion dollars. Telling people to chill but this company also upped the base price for this game? Yeah, some player likeness or simply just hair fixes for the players should be expected for release.

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[keshunleon]

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Theyre clearly trying to do a new round of scans for everyone though. Theyre not going to bother updating an old scan thats going to be completely out of date soon anyway. Thats just bad allocation of labor. Do776 all the guys you listed even have their new scans yet? Im not on patch 1.04 yet, but i know on 1.03 butler, AD, and others are still their old scans. If those guys do have new scans and theyre already out of date, then thats just reality of guys changing their hairstyles every other day. I cant blame 2k for waiting to refresh everyone’s personal style when the season starts.

My comment was not directed at you only though, just to be clear. Theres also been complaining about old scans in next-gen footage. Big picture-wise, my point is just that unlike most years, when the launch of a new 2k is both a gameplay launch and a new roster launch, this year due to the pandemic, 2k21’s launch was only a gameplay launch (and it wouldve been unreasonable to expect otherwise). Roster-wise, 2k21 isnt out yet. You’re playing a roster that is still in the thick of development. Even next-gen wont be a full, clean, dual gameplay+roster launch like in a typical year. 2k21 will not be truly ‘out’ until like early-mid January.

I feel ya and get what you're saying but all the scans I'm talking about are 2-3 years old and I only listed a few.

Everyone is entitled to express issues on something they've paid for.

2K out here promoting NBA and players likeness but isn't providing it.

IMO 2K needs to release their games in early November after the season starts.

[The 24th Letter]

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We don't know if these are the final NG renders . We know for a fact they have more likeness elements locked on disc. A lot of feedback based on the short clips/ trailer could already be covered. I'm not sure what 2K's reasoning or scheduling is, but historically renders have been different upon release. Lets wait and see, then give the feedback.

They just released a 50+ player likeness update last patch.and there was barely a response here...if anything, just "smh" that some particular player wasn't updated, lol

We don't have to throw them a parade, but its not like they've done nothing this year.

[RobertJKeeton42]

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Why are u so pissed just because we want the players to look like them now not years ago??

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[ForeverVersatile]

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I'm sure 2K had KD in for a official scan some time this summer since he wasn't in the bubble because his front view face scan is way to good for it to be done by hand. They didn't modify the existent scan either becsuse the difference are too drastic.

Now my question is, how did they mess up on his head shape?? It is really bad. [ATTACH]184200[/ATTACH]

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The slope and curve on the back of the head were overdone imo, they aren't as prominent in the real life pic.

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[The 24th Letter]

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Why are u so pissed just because we want the players to look like them now not years ago??

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Me? I'm not mad at all. Where did you get that from what I posted?

My only suggestion to you was to not log in every couple of days expecting all the changes to have taken place.

[Tynole14]

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Was that recent picture of Fultz on this thread a new update on current gen 2k21???

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[J_Posse]

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When did I ever say anything about getting 450+ players to get re- scanned?
I was just stating , I see people saying give them a break because of the pandemic. And it's noted but they did the exact same thing of 2k20 release with no pandemic. Barely updated any player likeness updates. This is a company that is worth 2.2 billion dollars. Telling people to chill but this company also upped the base price for this game? Yeah, some player likeness or simply just hair fixes for the players should be expected for release.

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Again, they'll prioritize who they have done already likely before all this pandemic stuff went down.

And the new season doesn't begin until January, rookies haven't been added & they still have faces hidden for two-way players. Obviously, the cycle for this game as far as NBA content has been thrown out the window & people need to be patient.

Last year doesn't matter because no pandemic, no launch of next gen titles (which means using same assets/face scans) & plenty of other updates (rookies, jerseys, court art & classic players).

Unless we are in the meetings or have direct line with production, they'll update when or who they can. Or go the PC route where all these updates can happen much, much faster.

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